Re: http://lilypond.org/help-us.html afunctional

2018-07-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 08:49:12PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > I suspect that the issue is that we only want a string in the form > > "2.19", and it was easier to create such a string by concatenating > > MAJOR_VERSION and M

Re: http://lilypond.org/help-us.html afunctional

2018-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 08:21:25PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > I'm slightly surprised that the build picks up the location of those > > pages from that part of the version, but obviously it does. A simple > > fix for the next build would be to align the versions given

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote: > What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up > with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library > dependencies, etc.), one that offers responsive design for smaller screens, > etc.

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 05:04:07PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il giorno gio 9 feb 2017 alle 0:11, John Roper ha > scritto: > >Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on > >http://jmroper.com/lilypond > > > >I am keeping the source for the website in >

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 05:31:20AM -0500, John Roper wrote: > OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML site > generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, Textile, Plain > Text (.txt), and Microsoft Word (.docx). > > http://jmroper.com/blended I am not

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:31:39PM -0500, John Roper wrote: >Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign >(not including the docs)? >I know of: >Not reliant on JavaScript >Can be translated >Can be updated with each new build There's a few

Re: some mentoring available

2016-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 05:37:44PM -0800, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: >I would enjoy learning the ropes to start to contribute more directly >to the health and well-being of the Lilypond documentation. >Is this mentoring offer still good? Yes, absolutely! Could you let me know

Re: Trying to Convert MIDI to Lilypond

2016-12-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 09:58:39AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > This is the only file in the whole LilyPond distribution that needs a C > compiler to compile. It also makes for a whole lot of trouble. What it > does can likely be rewritten in Python without much of a performance > impact for

Re: Small typo on LilyPond.org

2016-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 11:54:33PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > If the documentation needed correcting, I'm in for a minimum 1.5 > hour build (sometimes 6 hours) and 5 hour upload (which also > eats into my internet quota and stops my internet use at the > time) to correct it. Ouch, this might be

Re: Small typo on LilyPond.org

2016-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 04:09:02PM -0700, SoundsFromSound wrote: > Graham Percival-3 wrote > > As always, I'm happy to mentor anybody who wants to contribute to > > LilyPond. There's plenty of work to go around, even for easy > > typo-fixes like changing > >

Re: How to build LilyPond.app on macOS?

2016-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 08:49:55PM +1100, Andrew Bernard wrote: > I have offered on more than one occasion on the list to do the Python port. I > have been knocked back, to be more accurate, strongly discouraged, each time. > As somebody with over forty years of software development experience, I

Re: Small typo on LilyPond.org

2016-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 10:46:14PM +0100, Noeck wrote: > Am 07.12.2016 um 11:24 schrieb Phil Holmes: > > it would be too much effort to fix something so minor > > From my naive point of view, there is something inherently wrong with a > website system if it is too much effort to correct a typo...

Re: How to build LilyPond.app on macOS?

2016-12-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 07:25:44PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Dear Graham, > > On 6 December 2016 at 19:01, Graham Percival wrote: > > This is compiled and uploaded to: > > http://lilypond.org/downloads/gub-sources/osx-lilypad-universal/osx-lilypad-universal-0.6.3.ta

Re: How to build LilyPond.app on macOS?

2016-12-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 08:44:58AM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > I found > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/contributor-big-page > (didn't read it all) and only suspect that some logic might live in > GUB, but I'm pretty much lost for the moment. I am familiar with the process as

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 04:06:53AM +, Karlin High wrote: > >From: Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> > >Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 3:35 PM > > > >If there was a single mentor for the new contributor, and if other > >people didn't make well-i

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 03:39:58PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:08:00PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 03.12.2016 22:35, Graham Percival wrote: > > >A wiki is never the right answer. > > > > Please elaborate :-) Because it’s

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:08:00PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 03.12.2016 22:35, Graham Percival wrote: > >A wiki is never the right answer. > > Please elaborate :-) Because it’s too open for everyone to alter? Because "somebody else" will fix it. Also, i

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 08:45:30PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Karlin High writes: > > > I like Urs Liska's idea of having a wiki or contributor guide entry for > > web developer work. > > Yes, it makes sense. A wiki is never the right answer. Karlin's suggestion of

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:50:50PM +0100, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: > I've already given it a try, but get stopped by some errors I don't know how > to resolve (I've no knowledge about perl). Three patches are available for > anybody willing to help me… I can compile the English version,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 08:10:17PM -0500, Paul wrote: > I just wish that working with texinfo (for the website) was more intuitive > for contributors who know HTML but not texinfo. For example, an HTML > element with an id and also a number of classes, all used for styling it > with CSS. I don't

some mentoring available

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
lping out LilyPond and willing to spend 3-5 hours a week, get in touch! Even if you're not particularly interested in documentation, it's still a great way to "learn the ropes". Cheers, - Graham Percival ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-us

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
roblem. I just don't think I am the > best > person for the job. > > On Dec 2, 2016 2:19 PM, "Graham Percival" <gra...@percival-music.ca> wrote: > > Hi John, > > Thanks for your interest in helping LilyPond!  I wonder if you > might be

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
Hi John, Thanks for your interest in helping LilyPond! I wonder if you might be interested in having a dedicated mentor to help you navigate our development process. We are more than 20 years old, and our process is aimed at allowing us to keep things rolling as smoothly as possible. I've

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-30 Thread Graham Percival
The same information that's on the website is also produced in pdf and info (a GNU/Linux documentation system). I *strongly* encourage you to modify the existing lilypond.css file and use the current HTML files, rather than trying to recreate the texinfo from scratch. Even if you want to

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 05:27:03PM +, Karlin High wrote: > On 11/29/2016 11:07 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > > Speaking as somebody with actual experience in this area (namely, the > > person who created the current website): start off by modifying the > > CSS f

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 05:22:25PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Karlin High writes: > > > On 11/29/2016 6:13 AM, John Roper wrote: > >> > >> Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could > >> do style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress

Re: LilyPond logo?

2016-08-06 Thread Graham Percival
gnment, rotation, and the graphical text markup -- and again, if the logo is comprised of elements of musical notation, it will be much more recognizable as a logo for something to do with sheet music. Cheers, - Graham Percival On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 05:11:26PM +0200, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote

automatically populating \header from top-level variables?

2016-07-29 Thread Graham Percival
I'm preparing a few books of my compositions, and looking for the best way to organize my files. For example, one such book consists of 5 pieces for 3 cellos. I have: - 5 "music data" files - 20 "print instrument \bookpart" files ((1 score + 3 cellos) * 5 pieces) - 4 "top-level" files which

Re: python 2.6 in GUB Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 10:44:19AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Doesn't Julien have GUB with python 2.6 ready for testing? I should be able to test GUB with Julien's Python 2.6 later this week. I'd just like to check the process. I click the Merge pull request at

python 2.6 in GUB Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 08:53:04AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: David Kastrup writes: So my first impulse would be to throw out the workaround for 2.4.2 that Let's do that. Well, issue 1933

Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website

2013-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 11:19:01PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: As for now i see that Wordpress provides everything i need and seems to work. I have no personal experience with wordpress, but I heavily recommend wordpress / google blogger / identi.ca / any pre-made blog-hosting system, rather

Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website

2013-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:52:17PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Janek Warchol it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as Paul said: wait, what? I don't think we've

Re: lilypond on webserver

2013-06-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 04:48:10PM -0400, Jim Tisdall wrote: I'm making interactive typesetting to provide material to users of a music book. First pass, I'm using mac pro system and perl CGI and apache 2.2 server. (I've programmed in scheme in the past, but perl is likely the best -

Re: LilyPond blog! who wants to join?

2013-05-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 12:13:03AM +0200, Nils Gey wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:59:12 +0200 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: and it's time for a first contest! The blog needs a catchy name. Whoever suggests the best name will be the first one interviewed on the new

Re: LilyPond 2.16+ on WINE 1.0

2013-05-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 09:48:11PM +0100, Silas S. Brown wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:50:46PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote: Bug report please. You mean, installing modern Lilypond on an ancient Linux distro is supposed to be supported? If there's a specific requirement, then it might

Re: LilyPond 2.16+ on WINE 1.0

2013-05-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 08:43:13PM +0100, Silas S. Brown wrote: Thanks Francisco. Unfortunately the recommended installers don't work for installing modern Lilypond on Debian Sarge. But thanks for the suggestion. Bug report please. As long as you get the right CPU type, it should work. -

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 01:05:40PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com writes: Here is a piece of opinion from me, so you know my position. Users of WYSIWYG engraving software accept the shortcomings because it is quick and effective. Users of text-based approaches

Re: svg output

2013-04-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:25:42AM -0400, Bric wrote: How hard would it be to enhance the svg export with robust svg element id's that retain (at least SOME of) the original lilypond's note characteristics ?? instead of assigning anonymous generic inkscape object names (e.g., id=rect7306

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 08:09:45PM +0100, Phil Hézaine wrote: And what about the conversion of drum notes to midi pitches? I'm not able to find a way to write a specific function for that issue. Graham? Have you some time? To clarify, I wasn't suggesting that drums should be converted to midi

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 08:21:53AM -0300, luis jure wrote: on 2013-03-26 at 16:04 Graham Percival wrote: I'm quite curious about this -- do drum events not have point-and-click info? BTW, i was quite curious myself about why the point-and-clik info was included in the first place. i

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 08:12:42PM +0100, Phil Hézaine wrote: for NoteEvent: #(define (format-note engraver event) (let* ((origin (ly:input-file-line-char-column (ly:event-property event 'origin (print-line engraver note ;;

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 08:58:09AM -0300, luis jure wrote: i looked at event-listener.ly, but i'm afraid it's way over my head. i can hardly manage some basic python, for me scheme is undecipherable. could anyone give me a hint how to modify event-listener.ly to recognize parenthesized

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:05:28PM +0100, Phil Hézaine wrote: Le 25/03/2013 17:29, Graham Percival a écrit : To add \parenthesize, you need to create a similar function or extend that original one to deal with those events. To see the events, try: \displayMusic { c'4 \parenthesize d' e

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:20:19AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Olivier Biot olivier.b...@gmail.com writes: Treating the first pitch of \music in \relative \music differently is not intuitive and will likely result in octave errors. Treating the first pitch of \music in \relative is

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 08:06:24PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The idea is that \relative { ... } (namely \relative used without an explicit reference pitch) uses the first note inside as the reference pitch. That is, if the first note happens to be written as fis'' it will sound as fis''

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 12:37:55AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: The idea is that \relative { ... } (namely \relative used without an explicit reference pitch) uses the first note inside as the reference pitch. That is, if the first note happens to be written as fis'' it will sound as

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 06:29:34AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Whereas keeping the explicit initial pitch: \relative c' { c' c' } the c' outside the {} means middle C each c' inside the {} means jump an octave higher Not every piece

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 11:52:21PM -0600, Evan Driscoll wrote: Well... if you just don't emit the warning if the first pitch in a \relative {} block is incorrect, then it seems like you get exactly the current proposal except that you have to spell \relative { c'' } as \relative { c='' }

Re: Advocating non-free softwares [WAS: Heads up about Frescobaldi Ubuntu - Insert Menu Glitch]

2013-02-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:03:30AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Come to think of it, do we say something about the choice of operating system? We don't do that on the download pages, we present them as equal choices. Why don't we say something on the download pages like: -snip- The

Re: Behind Bars

2013-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:48:37PM +0100, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: I'll just throw it out there that I'm broke after planning my wedding and honeymoon in April (woohoo!) but have wanted to buy Behind Bars for some time. If anyone feels like buying it for me for a wedding present, it'd get

Re: Source code for website examples?

2013-02-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:04:53PM +0100, Florian Hollerweger wrote: Plus, clicking the slide's heading will open the .ly file. Pretty sweet, don't you think? :) I would actually caution against this; some of those source files are not written to be easy to read. Showing them to people

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ly2video 0.3.0

2013-01-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 06:59:37PM +, Adam Spiers wrote: I forgot to include a new example of the output. The desire to make this video was the main reason I ended up taking over maintainership: http://youtu.be/asQtwd3dJfs Woah, massively cool! Cheers, - Graham

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: * Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with a conversion of my existing tutorial) as a set of LaTeX documents. * I think there is no

Re: Lilypond in Mac OS X Terminal

2012-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:47:27PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote: On 12 Dec 2012, at 16:32, David Kastrup wrote: Stupid question: why would one create executable shims to something like DIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/* in ~/bin and then add ~/bin to one's PATH when one can just add

Re: Lilypond in Mac OS X Terminal

2012-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 09:14:12PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: The executable shims avoid those problems, while being relatively easy to explain to newbies. The libexec route appears to cater for all of that. We should use bin just

Re: Supporting LilyPond development financially

2012-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:38:53AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: If I were the sole designer/developer of the web page, I'd put a big star-shaped Donate! or Sponsor! button clearly visible on the front page. Tiny, personal projects do it all the

Re: Supporting LilyPond development financially

2012-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 01:30:58PM -0800, Jim Long wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:25:56PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I think that there is 100% approval that you *do* such a huge amount of work. And you should be payed for that IMHO. I agree with the first sentence. I have problems

Re: Manual search returns results from wrong version

2012-10-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: It's a common header, used on all the web pages, and therefore uses the same version number throughout. Non-trivial to change. Shouldn't it be v2.16, though? It's safer to point to v2.16 rather than v2.17. - Graham

Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:04AM +1100, Nick Payne wrote: On 11/10/12 23:18, Eluze wrote: if you have good ideas how to design this page better and make it more informative you are welcome to send them as an enhancement request to the bug list! With previous versions, the downloadable

Re: How to reserve more space for fermata mark (to prevent large vertical shifts)

2012-10-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 06:44:18AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Rehearsal marks are one of the things that has extra-spacing-width set to (inf . -inf) so that it reserves no space during note-spacing \once\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-spacing-width = #'() Something learned

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:56:02PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: Please educate me if there is already a way to do this, but it appears that 'q' as a shorthand for the repetition of the previous note(s) only works for chords. It would be handy if it

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 07:45:41PM +0200, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Le 20 sept. 2012 à 19:21, Graham Percival a écrit : A single note name is not that much longer to type than q. If it is really important to you, place the single note in a chord: des is perfectly repeatable by q. What

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:19:36PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: (I'd also like to have an \absolute keyword so that doc examples using it could be more explicit, but that would need to wait until we have a good way to discuss syntax changes

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:30:44AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Karl Berry k...@freefriends.org wrote: Probably for the same reason I didn't: when we go to the web site and simply click the obvious links, the browser shows the version-dependent url. It

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Karl Berry wrote Friday, September 07, 2012 11:45 PM The first example there looks good (and is in fact what I sent her). But then the second example, instead of showing how to typeset other kinds of notation, goes into

Re: Markup query

2012-09-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 10:37:37AM +0100, Peter Gentry wrote: It is a shame that the manuals do not contain a single source including a precise definition of all the markup options - similar to a c++ manual say. Notation A.10 is intended to give such a source of definitions. - Graham

Re: Markup query

2012-09-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:55:32PM +0100, Peter Gentry wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 03:36:40 -0700 Graham Percival wrote Notation A.10 is intended to give such a source of definitions. Ah I had downloaded all twelve of the pdf manuals which I routinely search via the Adnaced Search option

Re: update all files with convert.ly

2012-09-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:52:47PM +, David Bobroff wrote: I seem to remember that convert-ly used to, or used to have an option, to descend into sub-directories. Am I mistaken? You're mistaken; convert-ly only applies to a single file. You're probably thinking of somebody's wrapper shell

Re: Some problems in the docs, as encountered by a beginner

2012-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:27:46PM +, Neil Sands wrote: I hope this is the right place to point out some errors in the LilyPond Learning Manual. Thanks for the feedback! Normally this would go to the bug-lilypond mailing list, which I've CC'd. 1.

Re: Lilypond 2.16.0 released!

2012-08-27 Thread Graham Percival
Please send such questions to lilypond-user; hopefully somebody can help you with this and if you have a bug it can get to bug-lilypond. - Graham On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:18:40AM -0500, Fredric Dannen wrote: Graham,   I'm having a problem with 2.16 that may have a simple solution, and

Re: Lilypond 2.16.0 released!

2012-08-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:15:13AM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: This page says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported, but the Intel version GUI works on 10.7.4, and for the LilyPond PPC version, it will never be supported as 10.7 cannot run it (10.6 could run it via the Rosetta emulator, but

[servera...@gmail.com: A Letter from a Turkish Composer and LilyPond user...]

2012-08-20 Thread Graham Percival
...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Subject: A Letter from a Turkish Composer and LilyPond user... Dear Graham Percival, Hello. I am a composer, Linux Mint User and GNU/LilyPond user. I am also a music teacher at the Inonu University-State Conservatory, Malatya, TURKEY. I am also

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 03:02:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: The schedule would focus on stable release work and criteria on Friday, with the goal of getting most participants hands-on experience or at least exposure to GUB work. Coursework goal is the release of 2.16, and getting the

Re: \include in a .ly file included in a LilyPond-Book document (.lytex)

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:27:35AM +0200, Jakub Pavlík wrote: it seems behavior of lilypond-book concerning .ly files including other .ly files changed between 2.14.2 and 2.15.42: Yes, I think this was done in 2.15.24. See issue 2104 in the tracker. It's deliberate. - Graham

Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]

2012-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 01:21:27PM +0100, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: ... but I think it emphasizes my real point: this puts the onus on the user to split up a project into independently-compilable units. I think that it's worth having Lilypond try and automatically identify independent

Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-08-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 02:13:06PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: Just a suggestion, but given the recent news regarding Sibelius (cf. discussion on User list), why not drop a line to a couple of the

Re: yay! for lilypond 2.15

2012-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:06:10PM +0200, Stefaan Himpe wrote: I've written two tutorials on how I calculated the music (including the lilypond code, which I'm sure can be improved!) which can be read in [1] and [2]. [1]

Re: New issue of The LilyPond Report!

2012-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:36:53AM +, Valentin Villenave wrote: PS. Graham, is that enough for you? :-) I don't see a patch in staging which announces this on lilypond.org, so... no? - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:42:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That needs to do build number

Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down

2012-08-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On 2 août 2012, at 18:18, Lucas Gonze wrote: Is it architecturally possible to make a significant amount of overhead go away? Are incremental compiles plausible? It is very difficult. It's better to use a front-end

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:31:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: At the time the 2.16 branch will be cut, the versioning for the unstable branch will need to advance to 2.17 in order to maintain an ordered relation between version numbers and LilyPond language. Do you mean 2.16 instead of 2.17

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: What versioning should I be using for the release candidates? Numerically, one has the options to start with 2.15.95 why not 2.15.42 ? Because the 2.16 branch

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:21:34PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. There is no point dragging it along as purely dead weight we should not be using. Sure, patches

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:15:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: I'm sometimes slow to react (up to one week for making a patch), but I'm willing to help with version number management in the build system if this definitely appears to be the route to go with. Regardless of the question of

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:36:14PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:10:26PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: The first step is to make it work in make website, which is infinitely easier than trying to do anything in GUB. This is a relatively easy thing

Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:35:08PM +, Felipe Castro wrote: I have written a little program to convert from that infamous format, Encore, so that I may use many scores available on the web, without much effort to retype everything in lilypond. Here it is:

Re: Dealing with Deprecation (Was Re: Vertical spacing: Was between-system-space deprecated?)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 04:25:54PM -0500, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote: Does such a large revision of syntax where keywords are deprecated happen often? How do people who have large collections of lilypond scores deal with this? This is indeed a problem. The developers are currently

Re: Lilypond syntax

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:01:01PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: Some weeks back there was some discussion of the Lilypond syntax, I made some suggestions and was asked to write up a sample .ly file with the ideas I had in mind. Basically my notion was to separate content (notes and chords) from

Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to 28th. Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters. URL:http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop To get the ball rolling, I'm flying in to

Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:09PM +0200, Nils wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to 28th. Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.

Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:52:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say, 640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable price? assuming that David has any walls painted

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:40:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: and you can see a nice old/new comparison here: http://news.lilynet.net/IMG/gif/clef_comparison.gif). -snip- PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the /priests/ using Lily might have a problem with that :) I

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:03:45PM -0700, David Rogers wrote: I'm not a priest. However, I still don't like the picture. I agree. It reminds me of sleazy 1990s CD-roms selling shareware sofware. I don't think that's the best possible impression Lilypond can give. Fortunately, that website

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes: I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas' definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of Lilypond. We disagree on what 'sleaze' is. Not

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
? ;) -Mike On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Graham Percival [1]gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Mike Blackstock [2]blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes: I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:11:09AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU coding standards are quite clear on this: A GNU program should

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:57:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a social and ethical problem, and our aim

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Do we know about http://tunefl.com ? Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com on our website? Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU coding standards are quite clear on

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people into trying to get involved. That's because you are an excellent programmer,

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