Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i wouldn't like openlilylib getting a

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2014 11:10, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 16:48, schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote Hm, I think I_must not_ start with such a script right now, since I know that this - although being not too complex - will eat up too much of my time and concentration. But your message triggered a little bit of thought, and I came to

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
pull request. (I think this should be done _with_ review and not be left to the authors' discretion) Urs -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164086.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for tags (e.g. the same

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 10:37, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are stored in. Should we have a dedicated folder

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 11:37, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are stored in. Should

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 12:01, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Morris
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Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
renamed) - clean up and tag the snippets. One by one and using pull request. (I think this should be done _with_ review and not be left to the authors' discretion) Sounds fine to me. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
the principle of doing the simplest thing that will do the job, in this case helping people find the files/snippets they're interested in. Starting by tagging the existing snippets sounds fine to me. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Urs Liska
but collecting suggestions first. Then decide about a set of tags and apply them during the move. Urs -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164079.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
is how their authors were tagging them). (I guess this might mean moving the files first and then working on the tags?) -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164086.html Sent from the User mailing list archive

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 05:30, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote I can see the point and I'm ready to accept that approach. There is one issue, however, that I'd like to discuss before making any decision. \include file-name.ily opens the door wide for name conflicts. The more the names are

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 10:31, schrieb Urs Liska: Thanks. I think we will have to reconsider our metadata section and then do the transfer in that reorganization branch. I strongly suggest to excusively do that using pull requests, even among the members with push access. One more thing I would suggest

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Paul Morris
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Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
-fonts. I had partially done that already, but only on the Wiki, not in the README. I've now updated both (this duplication isn't intended to be persistent...). Urs Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
better. Thanks for the feedback Urs Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163950.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Sounds interesting, but I don't thing the time is ready for that. There has been discussion of providing a structure similar to the TEXMF tree in LaTeX distributions. This would be a place where library additions or packages could be stored to and made available in the official LilyPond

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Noeck: Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 12:23 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: - I don't see yet what would go into »specific instruments/repertoire« For example shortcuts for staff changes in piano music. Snippets for specific bending techniques for guitar. Lute tablature. This way the bending techniques

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-03 17:51 GMT+02:00 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de: I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. Me too, speaking file names are much better ___ lilypond-user

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
using the library. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163986.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 17:14 GMT+02:00 Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com: One nice thing about decoupling the actual location of the files (their include path) from the categories/tags/navigation structure, is that you can change the latter as needed as the library changes and matures, without breaking

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.07.2014 17:14, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote Am 03.07.2014 19:50, schrieb Paul Morris: Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. If the emphasis is on include-ability, what about just having all the include files at the same level in the Library

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
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[openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Urs Liska
Hi to all interested or involved in the openlilylib (a.k.a openlilylib snippets) repository. Our repository has now lived for some time, and I think it is a good thing to have and maintain. The recent renaming was partially intended to stress its nature as an _includable_ library (as opposed

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Noeck
Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am not sure, if it is a good idea, but

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Morris
at some point.) In any case, I think having fewer and broader categories is generally better. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163950.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Jay Anderson
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Our repository has now lived for some time, and I think it is a good thing to have and maintain. The recent renaming was partially intended to stress its nature as an _includable_ library (as opposed to the official LSR). But