Hello, Han-Wen:
I doubt that this will be discernible on 1200dpi print-outs.
I was looking at the printed version -- from my Xanté AW 1200 (1200dpi)
-- and I have to agree with you: there is no visible offset. I imagine
it would be the same if I sent the PS directly to the offset printer
Hi Chip,
In the following code the triplets do not work properly
1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it
compile correctly — in this case, you omitted the time signature
(6/8, I'm inferring) and the \include english.ly.
there are two measures of quarter note
Hi Shamus,
You're very welcome. :-) BTW, while that will work you still have
to put
a \popChords thing into your chord block, so it's still not 100%
automatic the way language files are. If someone could tell me how to
make this happen I'd be more than happy to code it. :-)
Try adding the
Hi Tim,
Rather than writing a separate ending, I'd like to just
parenthesize the last three chords over the final two bars so they
would render:
F(Ab7Dbmaj7C7)
Don't know how to (easily) parenthesize all the chords, but you can
easily parenthesize each chord — see
Hi all,
This may be the easiest solution?
\version 2.12.2
#(define (left-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass
inversion context)
(markup #:line (( (ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion
context
#(define (right-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass
Hi Kees,
OK, let me rephrase (and this time in the right list, sorry): is
the way to indicate
a 4 times repeated set of bars \repeat volta 4 {notes}, followed
by a manual annotation
indicating repeat 4 times or is there a better method?
As far as I know, that's the best Lily-method.
On a
Hi Mats (et al),
It would certainly not have been obvious to me that this has
anything to do with repeats, if
I didn't know that that's the syntax used in LilyPond. Certainly,
it's related to repeating
something, but I would be surprised if you could find it in any
music notation handbook
Hi all,
In LSR #444 (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=444), it claims
that the snippet is obsoleted by version 2.11.50.
However, unless I'm mistaken, we don't have direct access to the
parts of MetronomeMark (e.g., the size of the note is too big to my
eye, \tempo doesn't support a
Hi Neil,
It's obsolete since you can use \tempo \markup for all these tweaks.
Looking through the MetronomeMark docs, I've been unable to figure
out how to:
1. Change the size of the note (in parentheses) without changing
the rest of the font size; or,
2. Indicate a range of tempos
Hi Joseph,
The following code shows how \tempo \markup can be used:
Fabulous -- thanks!
The first \tempo mark sets the speed as far as MIDI is concerned
but the
markup from the second is displayed. You can therefore customise its
appearance as much as you like.
I don't think I ever
Hi all,
Does the \bracket markup command have no user-settable properties?
I'd like to change the thickness of the bracket, but don't want to
roll my own...
Thanks,
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Hi all,
Unfortunately, it seems hard coded for the moment, but there's a
comment in
the file scm/define-markup-commands.scm about exactly this issue.
A possible job for a Frog?
I'm officially jumping into the 'Pond on Wednesday of next week
(after my two big deadlines on Sunday and
Hi Chip,
Thanks for the suggestions, I was sent the following code which
does the job beautifully
Glad to hear you found a relatively easy solution.
Seems a bit overly complicated for adding something so simple don't
ya think?
From that comment, I can see you don't actually appreciate
Hi Tim,
I've tried \including them like someone suggested here last week,
but that method I lost the song titles and other header information.
1. Did you use print-all-headers = ##t?
2. Did you try \bookpart?
Hope this helps!
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I'm sure it's something simple I'm missing here.
R4*5
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Hi Timothy,
print-all-headers = ##t
if I understand correctly this goes in the paper section and lets
you force headers when the are in the score block, rather than a
separate header block, mine are each in their own header block in
their own .ly file - it didn't seem to make any
Hi,
My rescuer, who didn't answer to the common mail-list for some
reason, gave me the answer:
in layout block, should be:
ragged-right = ##f
Unfortunately, your rescuer gave you an incorrect answer -- really,
you should put both the solo music (Staff) and the choral music
Hi,
But ragged-right = ##f with two separate \score{} works and gives
quick result.
It works in the sense that it looks good...
But it is still musically wrong -- for example, MIDI output would not
be as desired/expected.
GrandStaff with \RemoveEmptyStaffContext also works, but it's
Hi Stefan,
Have you considered abandoning the TimeSig context, and simply
adjusting the TimeSignature of the topmost Staff directly? Using
#'font-size, #'X-extent, and #'X-offset (or #'extra-offset), you can
get the same effect, with perfect spacing every time -- the only
thing you need
Hi Stefan,
that sounds good, but I'm not sure if I understood You right. Do You
mean a Staff-context without notes, but with Time-Signatures? Could
You give me please a very short example?
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
%
\version 2.12.2
filler = \repeat unfold 48 { c'4 }
\layout
{
Hi Stefan,
Because I have too many bar changes in the score
There is no limit to the number of bar changes in my method.
and too many other things in the Time-Sig, like ritarrdando, etc.
Those should be in a global variable as MetronomeMark (or at least
RehearsalMark), so that you can
Hi Stefan,
What could be the mistake?
Might be a bug!?
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Hi all,
This is the snippet that gave me the clues:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=402
Even more useful is
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=10
If you search the LSR for fermata, it's on the first page of hits. =)
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Hi Gilles (et al.),
It's not a troll, but i don't think it is very useable in a real music
because the snippet add the Mark_engraver to the second Staff, so
you have to do the choice to get also all \mark in both Staff, like
in the example below.
Good point... although that's easy to get
Hi Stefan,
I would like to make a substition in the paper block, for the part
title.
Why not put
\header
{
parttitle = My Part Title
}
in your source (notes) file/section, and then in the score file/
section, use
oddHeaderMarkup = \markup
{
\fromproperty
Hi Stefan,
Yes, I don't now how to reduce the distance and first staff in this
example.
It is an excerpt of a larger score, and the first staff isn't always
the same, it's a so called french score.
If you're French scoring, you need to make a music function that
turns the topmost
Hi Mats,
In this bug database you can also see that this is one of 258 open
issues. :-(
I'd love to see Coda Music's open issues file for Finale... ;-)
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Hi Anthony,
Oops - just found my code that's doing it - but I copied it from
somewhere and don't understand what it's doing or why ...
tempoMark = #(define-music-function (parser location markp) (string?)
#{
\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X =
#left
Hi Anthony,
How metronome are your metronome functions? I'm just using it for
text like moderately fast.
\tempo \markup moderately fast
=)
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Hi Johan,
I found one hack to accomplish this: give the third note a 'lyric'
syllable consisting of a single hard space. But I'm sure there are
better ways.
I don't know if it's better, but I've defined
nullLyric = \markup \null
and use that instead. [Looking forward to this issue being
Hi Peter and Hu,
Turn after a note I write as:
{ c4 d4} \\ {s8. s16\turn s4}
This *looks* right, (adjust the s8. and s16 to move the turn; they
must add up to a crotchet).
It doesn;t sound in the MIDI output, and there's no easy way to
make it.
Why not just offset the turn?
Hello, all!
LilyPond scores are used for real, serious stuff.
This gets me to thinking... the website should have a section listing
recent productions performances which used Lilypond scores!
What does everyone think?
Regards,
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Hi Laura, Reinhold, etc.
Reinhold The only problems appear when trying to create
Reinhold good-looking full scores for the conductor (part
I agree.
I don't, actually...
While I think Lilypond could clearly do an even better job, I
regularly engrave my full scores, reduced
Hi all,
In my experience, LilyPond *is* capable of producing scores of the
highest caliber. However, I often spend so much time tweaking the
score to get it to look perfect that it really becomes a labor of
love.
I used Finale for over a decade, eventually becoming the computer
music lab
Hi Han-Wen,
you can have the best of both worlds if you enter using finale and
then musicxml2ly to go to .ly and do the typesetting.
Now that I think about it, I was originally just talking about
slamming in the pitches/durations...
Once I factor in the slurs, articulations, dynamics, text,
Hi Nick,
Is it possible, in a chord containing a second, to specify which
note in the
second should appear to the left of the stem and which to the
right? The
order of the notes doesn't change anything - ie d e gis, and e d
gis,
both have D to the left and E to the right.
My guess is,
Hi David,
Good evening List,
The snippet below shows two c naturals tied across a barline,
followed by a c natural slurred to a c sharp across a barline.
Lilypond makes both look identical. I think the first is right
(born out by the NR) - but is the second?
I know I can force the sharp or
Chip:
The word Fine just stays put over the rest, no matter what numbers
I put in there.
I think you're looking for MultiMeasureRestText, not TextScript.
HTH!
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Hi all,
How many users are aware that `c 4' is the same as `c4'
I am -- I use whitespace quite consciously/critically.
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Werner (et al.)
Do you actually use `c 4'?
I don't use that exact construct.
Or would you object to such a syntax change?
Only if it (adversely) affected the flexibility of whitespace
elsewhere -- for example,
g~ versus g ~
g( versus g (
etc.
If the parser is smart
Hi all,
Is there a way to have the TimeSignature stencil output with a thin
white border?
That way, you could stack Slur, TimeSignature, and StaffSymbol grobs,
and the Slur would look like it disappeared behind the TimeSignature.
Thanks,
Kieren.
Hi Mark,
Will using markup suffice?
I've been doing something similar...
However, I'd like an automated way of outlining any #'stencil --
maybe it's a task I can accomplish as a Frog?
Cheers,
Kieren.
\version 2.13.0
\markup \combine
\musicglyph #clefs.G
\whiteout \pad-markup #0.75
Mark,
This one is a little better.
You rock -- thanks!
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Hi Stefan,
there is one feature, that I know from Sibelius and Finale, which
would be great to have in Lilypond too.
If You have for example just one sixteenth note in a 4/4 bar, than
sibelius automatically fills the rest of the bar with rests.
I think rosegarden is able to do that too, but as
Snippet?
Definitely!
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Neil,
I hope Mark didn't spend too long working out the stencil overrides,
as there's already the public function stencil-whiteout (used for the
markup command \whiteout) which will do the job in one fell swoop:
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (stencil-whiteout
Hi Wei-Wei Guo,
explaining what a quaver is in text line.
\markup { A quaver looks like \fontsize #-2 \general-align #Y
#DOWN \note #8 #1 }
Hope this helps!
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HI Wei-Wei,
Could you point me to any material explaining this?
It's all in the Text markup docs, in particular the Music section:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Music#Music
Hope this helps!
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Hi,
Some time ago i tried to publish scores; therefore i was in touch with
several music publishers, in 2 or 3 european countries. As one
might expect,
they have a few basic requirements on the look of the scores. Sadly,
lilypond does not meet all of them.
Can you list those?
Kieren.
Hi Piero,
we must say breaking algorhythm is far better than Finale's
(the problem being that manual tweaking is *much* harder)
?? I actually find the opposite... Finale's manual breaking system is
more difficult and less flexible than Lilypond's.
In my Lilypond scores, I simply have a
Hi,
For example, lilypond was not able to print this note:
||O||
You mean like this?
inline: Picture 1.png
=)
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For example, lilypond was not able to print this note:
||O||
You mean like this?
Yes.
Well, I did that image in Lilypond, and it wasn't particularly
difficult.
Were there other things Lilypond supposedly couldn't do?
Just curious,
Kieren.
Hi Jon,
Could you put that in a snippet on LSR, Kieren? It would be
useful. :)
See other thread (just started).
=)
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Hello,
Here's a slightly more efficient, but no less in-need-of-Scheming,
version:
\version 2.12.2
dbreve =
#(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?)
#{
\once \override ParenthesesItem #'stencil =
#ly:text-interface::print
Hi all,
I've come up with a way (music function) of generating double-breves
of which I'm somewhat proud:
%%
\version 2.12.2
dbreve =
#(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?)
#{
\once \override ParenthesesItem
Hi,
At the time i needed this note, it was NOT available in lilypond.
Although I don't have an older version of Lilypond to check against,
I image my function would have worked for several versions now.
In other words, this workaround has probably been available in
Lilypond for several
Hi Fred,
Thank you, Kieren, for that double-breve function
My pleasure!
which I am now using in Reading's (d.1692)
Preces and Responses. I think the breve looks
much better with double side-bars.
Glad to see my work helping out in the real world.
Looking forward to having a more elegant
Hi,
I see no difference between the two following sentences
1) Lilypond can't do this.
2) Lilypond can do this, but nobody, including lilypond gurus, were
able to do this.
Maybe not, semantically...
But I could do this particular thing, and I don't consider myself a
Lilypond guru by any
Graham,
what about:
3) Lilypond can do this, but nobody, including the people reading
lilypnod-user, was willing to spend an hour writing a solution for
my own personal problems.
a) Thanks... I didn't want to say it, but I figured you would! ;-)
b) It actually only took me about eight
Hi Ari,
What?! I can haz breve with duble side-barz neouw? Vry nice :-)
=)
I asked about this a longish time ago, but it wasn't possible then.
It probably was, but nobody thought to do what I've done here (i.e.,
abusing the ParenthesesItem #'stencil).
Am I getting this right:
Hi Tim,
I was going to object to Kieren's statement that it wasn't
particularly difficult (since I think it was),
but I have to suppose that he intended that it wasn't particularly
difficult *for him*.
Actually, what I meant was: of all the tweaks/hacks/etc. that I've
seen, this is one
Hello Ari (et al.),
You'll need Kieren's scheme function as well.
\version 2.12.2
dbreve =
#(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?)
#{
\once \override ParenthesesItem #'stencil =
#ly:text-interface::print
Hi Robin,
\draw-line was introduced after 2.10.
Thanks for the version check -- if I have time, I'll rewrite it
(using another glyph, or PostScript) for earlier versions. =)
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Hi Henning (et al.),
Indeed, in most hymn books I've seen, the breves have 2 lines each
side,
As you can see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Double_whole_note), too.
Ah... I wasn't aware that the two-sideline breve and one-sideline
breve were the same duration.
so huzzah for
Hi Wei-Wei,
I want to present time signatures in my reading notes. I tried
\markup { \time 2/4 }
It seems \time cannot be used in this way. I got a dirty way
\markup { \center-column { {\musicglyph #2} {\musicglyph #4} } }
which can show a time signature, but the vertical space between the
Hi Jon (et al.),
The publisher of my guitar music [...] uses dashed slurs like these
with invariant thickness
I note that Barenreiter also uses invariant-thickness dashed lines
(e.g., Mozart Jupiter Symphony, m. 167).
So that appears to be standard practice.
It probably would look nicer
Hi sdfgsdhdshd,
3) Lilypond can do this, but nobody, including the people reading
lilypnod-user, was willing to spend an hour writing a solution for
my own personal problems.
a) Thanks... I didn't want to say it, but I figured you would! ;-)
1) Thanks for imagining thinks about me that are
Hi Carl,
I've posted a patch for approval that implements variable thickness
dashed
and part-dashed, part-solid slurs. I hope it will be fully
implemented in 2.13.1.
When I posted my comment about this, I never imagined it would get
solved so quickly.
Amazing!
As a preview, here's
Hi Berthold,
when I want to do a pitched trill over just one single note, I
always get errors:
Try overriding the stencil for the \trill function:
%%
\version 2.12.2
trillfl =
{
\once \override Script #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\once \override Script #'text =
Hi Stefan,
Is it possible to define another function, that shows an written dis
as an es and vice versa?
The \transpose function already does this! Simply use the enharmonic
transposition:
\version 2.12.2
sharpMusic = \relative { cis' dis fis gis ais }
\score {
Hello Lily-dippers!!
A colleague of mine just landed a professorship at a U.S. college, in
a program which emphasizes innovation in music.
I asked him if he'd like me to do a guest lecture, and he's very
interested. In addition to a short technical presentation (and
cheerleading session)
Hi Frédéric:
Halas, for StaffGroup, the trick works but the spanners are
all at the top of the score, not above each StaffGroup.
Maybe this hint will help you solve the problem:
\version 2.12.2
\layout
{
\context
{
\type Engraver_group
Hi all,
Frédéric wrote:
Exellent, it is exactly what I was hoping!
Glad to hear that!
I am going back to the documentation to see if I can learn such
magic things.
Bonne chance!
_
Simon wrote:
now that's a far more elegant solution than anything i'd ever have
come up with.
Hi Simon (et al.),
kieren was probably copy-pasting and saving time.
Yep.
- how do you find out which contexts and engravers are involved?
over my head.
Me, too! I simply modified the TimeSig example. =)
instructor mode is good... but why FileMaker for heaven's sake? ;)
Great $$,
Hi Frédéric,
- if you have 15 instruments (staffs) you need to add 15
stringendos - is
Here again, no problem because I have it in all individual parts
but the trick would work without it
Précis!
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Hi L,
how to make the stencil always associated to some notes?
I believe there is a tip (in the docs or LSR) which shows how to
colour a notehead based on its pitch -- it should be easy to modify
that code/method to do what you're asking.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Hi Chip,
I didn't want to print something in the titles, I wanted to print
something in the footer.
Am I being nitpicky here? To me those are two different sections of
a page.
[...]
I did find that code and it doesn't do what I was asking for.
That puts the date in a text block, my request
Hi Chip,
It's nothing but negative attitudes here.
There are over 1000 posts of mine in the archive; I think you'll find
that any negative attitude is in direct proportion to the I want
this, but am not willing to do any basic work to have it done factor
in the post to which I'm
Hi Nick,
Any suggestions (other than trial and error alignment of separate
elements)
on how to get an effect similar to that in the attached image,
where the
line is rotated but the text is not.
The following should help:
\version 2.12.2
setTS =
{
\override TextSpanner
Hi Nick,
With that as a model I was able to generalize it to a music function
Nice! Even better would be to take the music as a parameter, compute
the correct rightY (using the relative position of the endpoints of
the first and last stem) and automagically adjust -- that, however,
is
Hi Chip,
One more option is to place the date in the footer, or as it is
called in Lilypond - the tagline.
This is not accurate: the tagline and the footer are two different
things. (Check the docs to see what each of them are.)
Please correct the LSR snippet accordingly, so we don't have
Hi Chip,
I already did [the testing]. Below is the list of tested/usable
parameters
Nice!
Thanks,
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Hi all,
How can a make a custom context with a built-in scaleDuration
factor? e.g. I have
\context
{
\Voice
\name CustomVoice
\alias Voice
\override NoteHead #'duration-log = #8
}
Now, rather than writing
myMusic = \scaleDurations #'(1 . 8) \relative { ...
I'd like
Hi Gerard,
In the following I want to change the text font size
More to the point, you want to change the LyricText #'font-size. ;)
misplaces the text
Partly, that's because you surrounded your entire lyric line in
quotes, so that Lilypond tried to attach it to a single note.
Hi James,
Essentially, I'd like the instrumentName to not be calculated as
part of the system width.
I'm confused: when I try it, the instrumentName *isn't* calculated as
part of the system width:
\version 2.12.2
\paper { line-width = 5\in indent = 0 }
music = \relative { \repeat unfold
Hi Wilbert,
based on the idea of http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=372 I
created this
small function that creates a filtering function to remove certain
event types
from a music expression:
Very nice work!
Please add it to the LSR when you have a chance -- it would be very
useful.
Hi James,
Perhaps it's just my inability to explain what I want.
I'd like to have the two systems centered on the page, regardless
of what the instrumentName is.
Ah... well, the best I can do right now is this (manual) workaround:
\version 2.12.2
\paper { line-width = 8.5\in indent = 0 }
Hi Kees (and Reinhold),
Better yet would be to modify LSR snippet 443 (http://
lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=443) to accept an arbitrary set of
grobs to be colorized (rather than the whole Staff).
This is beyond my current Scheme-fu, but someone out there would make
easy work of it. =)
Hi all,
Another option is to (ab)use the Arpeggio, as seen in the attached
snippet (which uses Mark P's postscript parens).
Cheers,
Kieren.
\version 2.12.2
leftPar = \markup
{
\postscript
#(let ((width 0.75)
(height -4)
(edge-thickness 0.1)
Neil,
Nice!
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Hi Stan,
I was using a chord substitution scheme submitted here by Kieren
MacMillan.
Aw, shucks... ;)
It works well and I enhanced it for augmented chords. However, I'm
trying to
display a plus sign as the augmented symbol and in the case of the
C augmented7
chord it displays C7/#5
Hi Stjepan,
I use underscore _ multiple times, e.g. 30 underscores.
Is there any more convenient way to define multiple skips
\repeat unfold 30 { \skip 8 }
Hope this helps!
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Hi Arno,
is there a way to persuade partcombine in a case like:
\partcombine {{r4}{s4}}
to produce a vertically centered rest, not one in the upper half of
the staff?
Maybe
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=336
will help?
Cheers,
Kieren.
Hi Stjepan,
I'd like to get the following chord D7/F#. How to define this F#
as bass in
chord? I can use d:7/fis but I get fis, not wanted F# as bass.
If you're using english.ly, you need to use fs (not fis).
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Hi Mats,
The default setting is
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(staff-bar
clef)
which means that it's aligned to a bar line if there is one and
otherwise to the clef.
This is an odd default, given traditional engraving rules... it
should be (in priority order)
Hi Tim,
I can't get the following bit of notation to work -- despite the
\stemUp command the stems are down (which looks horrid!) --
can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?
You're not letting Lilypond do the correct voice handling for you...
\version 2.12.2
\include english.ly
lower =
Hi Tim,
Is there any way to get a fakebook style indication of modified
root notes?
Read the doc section on chords -- this is explained there (right in
the second example).
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-
chords#Displaying-chords
Cheers,
Kieren.
Hi Tim,
Does the \\ keep adding voices (effectively) indefinitely
[...] I'm worried about running out of voices!
I don't know the official answer. (Maybe Mats or HW or Graham can
speak to this?)
The attached test shows that there are at least 5 -- I'm assuming
there are an indefinite
Hi Tim,
Why do you need two voices just to align lyrics to a dotted slur?
If you post your current workaround, I'm sure someone on the list
will be
able to show you how to do it with only one voice.
I used the snippet at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=308 for
exactly the use mentioned
Hi Tim,
I can kludge that by using:
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #9
but that involves me counting the bars, so I'd sooner do something
like
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #(- 'internalBarNumber 1)
except not that because it doesn't work. Drat. Am I going to have to
learn more scheme, or
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