Re: Some basic Debian-s390 questions

2004-02-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:17:20AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: I have a few questions accumulated, although I'm sure there will be more. I suspect they're in the category of either: A - this is a really stupid question, or B - we've already answered this 1,000 times My questions so far are:

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 01:34, Post, Mark K wrote: Well, you've already spent more time trying to figure this out than you would if you just do a re-install. So, why not try to do it right all the I already frowned upon someone reading channel programs and instruction streams in octal, but this

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-06 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 05 February 2004 19:03, Alan Cox wrote: On Iau, 2004-02-05 at 17:47, Arnd Bergmann wrote: Yes, that's a trivial bug which gcc-3.x happen to ignore. The answer to why the space in front of a comma can be significant is left as an excercise to the reader. To fix this, apply this

Red Hat and the on demand timer patch

2004-02-06 Thread Eric Sammons
Per our Red Hat engineer, Red Hat will be offering the on demand timer patch. They have asked me to provide feedback as to what performance differences I see when it is turned on v. when it is turned off. I; however, do not have the load yet that would provide good results to answer that

Re: Red Hat and the on demand timer patch

2004-02-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
That varies based on processor. The bigger the processor the smaller load the timer code puts on it. On a G5 I saw about .3% CPU Utilization from an idle machine without the patch. On a z800 it drops to about .1%. On a z900 it is probably negligible. But 100 machines on a z900 without the

Re: Red Hat and the on demand timer patch

2004-02-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 14:00, Rich Smrcina wrote: That varies based on processor. The bigger the processor the smaller load the timer code puts on it. On a G5 I saw about .3% CPU Utilization from an idle machine without the patch. On a z800 it drops to about .1%. On a z900 it is probably

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-06 Thread Joe Poole
On Thursday 05 February 2004 22:14, you wrote: I have downloaded this but looks like it requires Enterprise Extender on the OS/390 side. I was looking at the CICS sockets interface. On the Linux side I can rig up something in Perl easily. But the CICS side seems to be a big effort. If anyone

Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread James Melin
Who has experience with setting up Linux to use hipersockets for data transfer to z/OS? I am looking at the disk-tape ackup solution that David Boyes came up with, and I believe that hipersockets would be the best route to go. Just not sure if we can go there.

Re: Red Hat and the on demand timer patch

2004-02-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:00:53AM -0600, Rich Smrcina wrote: That varies based on processor. The bigger the processor the smaller load the timer code puts on it. On a G5 I saw about .3% CPU Utilization from an idle machine without the patch. On a z800 it drops to about .1%. On a z900 it

Newbee question

2004-02-06 Thread Hahne, Ronald
We are about to set up our environment utilizing the Linux-399 environment. We currently are using Microsoft sql database on windows platforms. We would like to move off it and onto a Linux sql database. Does anyone have any experience using a Linux platform sql database other than interfacing

Re: Newbee question

2004-02-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 10:09:12AM -0500, Hahne, Ronald wrote: We are about to set up our environment utilizing the Linux-399 environment. We currently are using Microsoft sql database on windows platforms. We would like to move off it and onto a Linux sql database. Does anyone have any

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Kubannek, Harold
We are running Red Hat 7.2 with the 2.4.21 kernel (with the patches from the June Stream 2003 applied) and have been able to implement hipersockets with no problems - in preparation to test David's backup solution. If I can just get the mvslogin/mvslogout to compile on Linux!! Anyone been able

Re: Newbee question

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Recent versions of Postgresql (the last year or two) have matched, if not exceeded MySQL in terms of speed. To directly answer the original question, there a probably literally millions of Linux systems in the world running MySQL, to the point where LAMP has become a recognizable name in the

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2004-01-30 at 04:16, Post, Mark K wrote: Also, if I were to get involved with something like that, is there a bk client for Linux/390? (I'm willing to do something to help get these blasted patches integrated.) I would be that Larry will roll a 390 client if someone can give him the

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
James, You would set it up just like you would a Guest LAN using virtual HiperSockets. Look at http://linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/guestlan.html and ignore the Guest LAN pieces. Any 2.4 kernel should support this. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Harold, I got them to compile with no problem on an Intel Linux system. What problems are you having? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kubannek, Harold Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Newbee question

2004-02-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2004-02-06 at 15:25, Post, Mark K wrote: Recent versions of Postgresql (the last year or two) have matched, if not exceeded MySQL in terms of speed. To directly answer the original question, there a probably literally millions of Linux systems in the world running MySQL, to the point

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Alan, Unless Larry is doing something silly or low-level in his code, it should just compile, don't you think? He can either get an LCDS instance to do the work, or I can create an account for him on one of mine. If you could ask him to contact me, I would appreciate it. He would probably

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Kubannek, Harold
Mark, on the make I get the following output : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mvs-client]# make cc -c -I. gfsawsha.c gfsawsha.c: In function `getsite_1': gfsawsha.c:641: warning: passing arg 3 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type gfsawsha.c:641: warning: passing arg 4 of pointer to function

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Is there a #include errno.h missing from gfsawlin.c perhaps? -Original Message- gfsawlin.o(.text+0x74): In function `main': : undefined reference to `errno' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [mvslogin] Error 1

Re: Some basic Debian-s390 questions

2004-02-06 Thread Alex deVries
Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:17:20AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: 1. Problem installing When I went through the Debian installer, I got to a step labelled something like 'Install Kernel and Modules', which didn't. The installer segfaulted, and there was no kernel at all in

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-06 Thread Rod Furey
From the left field: if one can call Rexx from CICS one has TSO Pipelines then it's trivial to write a pipe to do it Disclaimers: 1 it's Friday 2 I know nothing about CICS Rod

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Little, Chris
sorry. you can't use that. sco property. -Original Message- From: Ferguson, Neale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use? Is there a #include errno.h

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Most likely. That's a change that crept in with later versions of gcc/glibc, so I'm not surprised that IBM hasn't updated their code yet. I've run into it with a number of packages I've compiled myself. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Kubannek, Harold
Making the following changes in gfsawlin.c and gfsawlou.c allowed the 'make' to work. CHANGING : #ifdef MVS /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ #pragma comment(copyright,GFSCWLOUHDZ11TC ) #pragma options(RENT) #pragma strings(readonly) #pragma csect(CODE,GFSCWLOU)

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread James Melin
Does that apply to Linux in LPAR mode? |-+ | | Post, Mark K | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | m | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | |

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Yes. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to support/use? Does that apply to Linux in LPAR mode?

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
I would say so. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kubannek, Harold Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use? Making the following

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread Kubannek, Harold
Thanks Mark, Neale, mvslogin and mvslogout seem to be working as advertised, now. James, sorry to have side tracked the thread. Thanks --Harold -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 09:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

IBM Communications Server

2004-02-06 Thread Ranga Nathan
Anyone installed this on Linux? I downloaded 90 trial version.Looking at the README, it says.. (see below). Notice the last line. It seems I should reboot after this. I never had to do anything like this on any Linux unless it was a kernel change. Is this OK? What am I getting myself into? 5.2

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-06 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Friday 06 February 2004 16:23, Alan Cox wrote: On Gwe, 2004-01-30 at 04:16, Post, Mark K wrote: I would be that Larry will roll a 390 client if someone can give him the right bits (or explain hercules 8)). The big difference really is that IBM release tested patches to recent releases,

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread James Melin
No problem. It saves me from having the same thing happen. It's all good. |-+ | | Kubannek, | | | Harold | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | ower.com| | |

Re: Some basic Debian-s390 questions

2004-02-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 10:52:42AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: Matt Zimmerman wrote: You probably also get a message saying to run apt-get update, which is the solution to that problem. Those messages mean that you have certain sources specified in /etc/apt/sources.list, but haven't

Re: Hipersockets - What Kernal level is required to s upport/use?

2004-02-06 Thread David Boyes
TO : #include errno.h ADDED #ifdef MVS /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ #pragma comment(copyright,GFSCWLOUHDZ11TC ) #pragma options(RENT) #pragma strings(readonly) #pragma csect(CODE,GFSCWLOU) #include rpc.h /*#include errno.h */

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Perhaps, but I'm less worried about the new features just incorporated, than I am about the fact that I'm still applying the same patches to 2.4.23 and 2.4.24 that I was on 2.4.7. Giant waste of a lot of people's time. And, who's to say we won't have a similar problem with 2.6? As we all know,

Disk Problem during install of RHEL30 under z/vm 4.4

2004-02-06 Thread Eric Sammons
During the installation of RHEL3 under z/VM 4.4 I am able to get through the language and define my nfs server etc. . . It seems though when the install attempts to load the DASD configuration it fails. I am presented with the box that tells me No Hard Drives were found. I can then select

Re: Disk Problem during install of RHEL30 under z/vm 4.4

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
Did you check /etc/modules.conf? RHEL3 uses /etc/modules.conf instead of /etc/zip.conf to list you volumes. You also have to do a mkinitrd after updating /etc/modules.conf mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-($uname -r).img $(uname -r) If you use a different /boot/initrd-xxx name, then you also have to

Re: Disk Problem during install of RHEL30 under z/vm 4.4

2004-02-06 Thread Wilson, Eric
Eric; I think I had a similar problem. Our solution was to partition and format the DASD from the VMGuest console session, before you ssh in and start the anaconda installer. It would be something like: dasdfmt -b 4096 -f /dev/dasda then: fdasd -a /dev/dasda Hope that helps. Cheers; E!

Re: Some basic Debian-s390 questions

2004-02-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 10:05:22AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Probably; I would send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No sooner did I speak than 1.2.4 was uploaded to unstable. -- - mdz

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
Feature. That's what priority means, after all. Use this one first, then that one, then all these. In SLES7, its a bug because it will not go to lower priority swap (I found out the hard way). I have not tested this in SLES8 or RHEL3. As to different priorities on swap, that doesn't seem to

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-06 Thread David Boyes
As to different priorities on swap, that doesn't seem to make much practical sense. It would tend to force all your paging to a single device. If you have different speed devices, it allows you to set up a hierarchy. Think solid-state disk, fast 3390 disk, old 3380s as a possible scenario. You

Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-06 Thread Bruce Hayden
Ref: Your note of Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:19:22 -0800 (attached) In SLES7, its a bug because it will not go to lower priority swap (I found out the hard way). I have not tested this in SLES8 or RHEL3. I've never had a problem with SLES 7 using multiple swap devices. In fact, I set them up with

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-06 Thread James Melin
So you are saying that the entirety of swap at highest priority was filled and you ran out of swap or what, exactly? |-+ | | Jim Sibley | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | hoo.com | | |

zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Scully, William P
The default zipl.conf for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 AS is: [defaultboot] default=linux target=/boot/ [linux]

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
This problem is getting to be a FAQ... http://linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/mkinitrd-notes.html Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scully, William P Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: zipl.conf for RH

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
So you are saying that the entirety of swap at highest priority was filled and you ran out of swap or what, exactly? With different priorities, at SLES7, we found that Linux would go into a loop and lock out all other tasks after the first swap with highest priority filled. This was at the RC6

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
But how do I make the change permanent in RH EL 3.0 AS? The mkinitrd makes the /etc/modules.conf change permanent in the /boot/initrd... module. = Jim Sibley RHCT, Implementor of Linux on zSeries Computer are useless.They can only give answers. Pablo Picasso

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
This problem is getting to be a FAQ... I had that feeling when I encountered the change in RHEL3 (RH 7.1/7.2 uses the same technique SuSE). Both SuSE 8 and RHEL3 now use mkinitrd, but the syntax is different. I do need to update the page to allow for using labels rather than /dev/dasd...; I'm

Linas Vepstas at IBM

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Elliott
This may be of interest to this list. Linas Vepstas, who originated the first Linux on the mainframe project, is now working at IBM. Linas is part of the Linux on POWER development team. Jim

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Michael MacIsaac
The mkinitrd makes the /etc/modules.conf change permanent in the /boot/initrd... module. Then running zipl will make it permanent in the boot sector of the IPL disk. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
But I don't believe that to be important, since the dasd= parameter isn't kept in the boot sector. At least, not the one that gets used during IPL. That is in the initrd. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent:

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
The mkinitrd makes the /etc/modules.conf change permanent in the /boot/initrd... module. Then running zipl will make it permanent in the boot sector of the IPL disk. If you use the same initrd name, then the zipl may not be necessary. I think the zipl is only needed if the /etc/zipl.conf

Re: Linas Vepstas at IBM

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
How nice. I'm glad to hear that. He's certainly shown that he can do that kind of work! Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linas Vepstas at IBM

Re: Linas Vepstas at IBM

2004-02-06 Thread Ferguson, Neale
That's great news! I'm very pleased for him. I had some of the most fun working on Bigfoot with him and watching things like DAT start working etc. An effort certainly more than just a footnote in Linux on zSeries. -Original Message- This may be of interest to this list. Linas Vepstas,

Re: Linas Vepstas at IBM

2004-02-06 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
I had the impression that Linas was a little bitter towards IBM about Linux/390 development. I am pleased that things have worked out for him, and that he and IBM have come to terms. -Original Message- From: Jim Elliott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:51 PM

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Post, Mark K
On second thought, perhaps it would be necessary, if the boot sector points to the disk location of the initrd. Hmmm. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-06 Thread Little, Chris
I don't know much about kernel hacking, but I've always been interested. We've got hardware and I'm certainly willing learn. -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o

Re: zipl.conf for RH 3.0

2004-02-06 Thread Jim Sibley
I just did a quick experiment with RHEL3, mkinitrd, and zipl. 1) I updated /etc/modules.conf, then did the mkinitrd using the same name for /boot/initrd When I rebooted, the new dasd were NOT there. 2) I then did a zipl and rebooted. The new dasd was picked up. Bottom line - both the

LiS installation problem

2004-02-06 Thread Ranga Nathan
Anyone installed LiS-2.16? This is a pre-req for IBM Communication Server. I applied the specified patch and did a 'make' I many lines of errors like this: /usr/src/LiS/head/linux-mdep.c: In function `syscall_mknod': /usr/src/LiS/head/linux-mdep.c:167: error: asm-specifier for variable `__arg1'