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John wrote:
Oh, nevermind... no need to educate me about this,
especially on this fine list. I don't currently do
mainframes for a living, and z/Linux really has
nothing to do with z/OS's Media Manager (as far as I
know).
The one thing of interest is that media manager is
also the driver for
Bruce's suggestion probably helps,
but as I wrote it up there is still another problem.
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Bruce Hayden wrote:
What you need to avoid problems from CMS is:
CP DEFSEG SEGUSR 1-3 SR
SEGMENT RESERVE SEGUSR (USER SKELETON
SETKEY 14 SEGUSER (FINDSKEL
PIPE SEGUSR EXT2 |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, David Boyes wrote:
Perl was SO avoidable
Confession: I don't like Perl,
though I do like a lot of things about it.
So I cornered Mike Cowlishaw at SHARE some years back (93?)
and asked his opinion of it. To my shock, he was very positive.
He likens the Perl community
Hi,
I downloaded the IBM Java SDK 1.4.1 RPM from the IBM site. It installs
just fine but when I issue 'java -version' I get the warning:
JIT compiler 'jitc' not found. Will use interpreter.
and later: (JIT disabled).
With version 1.3.1 had no problems like this.
I do have the (ibmsdkdir)/bin
Hello folks,
I would like to join your z/VM Linux Listserv group. I expect there is
a web site set up for registration. How do I register?
Ken Rosti
Senior Architect
Computer Associates
Ken,
http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?linux-390
Also, check out http://linuxvm.org/ for more useful links.
Mark Post
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Ken
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Also, check out http://linuxvm.org/ for more useful links.
pedant
Also, check out http://linuxvm.org/ for _additional_ useful links.
/pedant
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If there is one language I love unequivocally, it is Perl.
I like the TIMTOWTDI (tim tow tidi).
I have applied it to solve the most difficult problems easily.
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linux-390'
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 12:36, Richard Troth wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, David Boyes wrote:
Perl was SO avoidable
Confession: I don't like Perl,
though I do like a lot of things about it.
So I cornered Mike Cowlishaw at SHARE some years back (93?)
and asked his opinion of it. To my
If there is one language I love unequivocally, it is Perl.
I like the TIMTOWTDI (tim tow tidi).
I have applied it to solve the most difficult problems easily.
I don't deny Perl is useful. Larry Wall is considered to be a genius for a
number of reasons -- inventing a superior scripting language
Perl sure has some quirky syntax as some of it is derived from C.
Scheme is awesome but cryptic. Scheme is even more powerful than Perl, but
you have to rise above the mortals, you have to be a geek.
Python... hmm a language where indentation is part of the syntax?? ..
Ruby, I hear a lot of good
Being an ol' mainframe guy of 35+ years who has looked at a lot of
languages, I say REXX in conjunction with PIPELINES is unbeatable in terms
of writing speed and conciseness. You can get a lot of function in a few
lines of code.
To: [EMAIL
Being an ol' mainframe guy of 35+ years who has looked at a lot of
languages, I say REXX in conjunction with PIPELINES is unbeatable in terms
of writing speed and conciseness. You can get a lot of function in a few
lines of code.
I'm not sure that is a what we really need - for example I
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 13:41, Michael Short wrote:
Being an ol' mainframe guy of 35+ years who has looked at a lot of
languages, I say REXX in conjunction with PIPELINES is unbeatable in terms
of writing speed and conciseness. You can get a lot of function in a few
lines of code.
I'm not a
Aria Bamdad wrote:
Hi,
I downloaded the IBM Java SDK 1.4.1 RPM from the IBM site. It installs
just fine but when I issue 'java -version' I get the warning:
JIT compiler 'jitc' not found. Will use interpreter.
and later: (JIT disabled).
With version 1.3.1 had no problems like this.
I
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 14:17, David Boyes wrote:
I don't deny Perl is useful. Larry Wall is considered to be a genius for a
number of reasons -- inventing a superior scripting language to csh or
Bourne scripts is (IMHO) the least of his achievements.
I *do* claim that Perl is unnecessarily
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 14:30, Ranga Nathan wrote:
Perl sure has some quirky syntax as some of it is derived from C.
Scheme is awesome but cryptic. Scheme is even more powerful than Perl, but
you have to rise above the mortals, you have to be a geek.
Scheme sounds good. I've never used
Hi all:
Background:
My client has developed an application that runs under MVS/USS. It issues a
FORK instruction which causes MVS to create a new address space for the new
task. Considering the new application is going to be running approximately
5,000 tasks simultaneously, this presents a
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:36:30 -0500 Paul Landay said:
Which distribution?
Redhat.
Install the RPM that contains the C++ runtime libs.
I can only find one RPM at the IBM site and it does not talk about C++ libs.
I think for sles8 it is compat-libstdc++ or something like that.
You can do:
Hi,
KDE's konsole can do this:
- a profile that open a number of ssh sessions, in tabs.
- a menu item Send Input to All Sessions.
I use this often, very usefull.
Florencio.
On Thursday 19 February 2004 17:49, Eric Sammons wrote:
For those not familiar with CTELNET, I first saw this product
Ed,
1) I know that using REXX spawn, it will use an environmental variable,
_BPX_SHAREAS=YES, to decide whether to run in the same address space. The
same may be true for fork and C++.
2) We are running 2 production WebSphere/DB2 and 1 production
Perl/Apache/PostgreSQL applications on zLinux.
My background's in C and perl too. And now I'm learning REXX. It seems
to me that there are some programming constructs which I'm used to that
just aren't included in REXX. Such as:
1. pointers, for linked lists, trees, etc
2. complex data types as parameters and return codes:
There are some
Adam Thornton wrote:
But Rexx cannot do one thing that I find absolutely indispensable.
Hashes and stems are pretty much the same thing.
But in Perl, I can say
foreach(keys(%hash)) {
# $_ now holds the hash key...
do something
}
Exactly. And instead you end up having to
People who use REXX in conjunction with CMS Pipelines
forget about these weaknesses in REXX itself.
But that leads to a whole nutha story.
-- R;
Ranga Nathan wrote:
Just one featurethose who have tinkered with regex (it is even called
Perl5 style regular expressions) would know what can be accomplished in
Perl. So much so I used it to create a tool to convert any text to XML.
Perl allows you to mix OO and non-OO, unlike Java. If you
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 16:24, Richard Troth wrote:
People who use REXX in conjunction with CMS Pipelines
forget about these weaknesses in REXX itself.
But that leads to a whole nutha story.
Hey Rick, how do you use CMS Pipelines to extract a list of keys from a
stem?
Adam
This would be on your Linux/390 installation media, not something from IBM.
Now, why installing that would fix problems with your JIT not being found, I
can't imagine.
Mark Post
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Bamdad
Sent: Thursday,
[grumble] Putting me on the spot, are ya??
Hey Rick, how do you use CMS Pipelines to extract a list of keys from a
stem?
You know full well that this is not the forum to ask this,
and I am not the *person* to ask, but since you did:
/* set some stem vars */
mystem.adam =
The JDK is proving to be a headache for us. It is compiled with 2.95.3 and
so any C++ programs that you want to interface using the JNI will not work
using the current GCC 3.x stuff. I'm also investigating its use of
sigaction. I'll not start any rumours until I've verified the situation, but
the
On Iau, 2004-02-19 at 21:55, Edwin Handschuh wrote:
I'm told a similar application running on an HP-UX environment (or other
pure Unix environment I guess) wouldn't have the new address space
Well if you use fork() you will have address space handling overhead on
any platform, it just wont hurt
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 16:43, Richard Troth wrote:
/* or if you just want the keys for a specific stem */
'PIPE REXXVARS | DROP FIRST' ,
'| CHANGE 1.2 /v / /=/ | JOIN 1' ,
'| CHANGE 1.2 /n / // | LOCATE 1.7 /MYSTEM./' ,
'| SPEC WS . W 2 1 |
Eric Sammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 19.02.2004,
21:49:44:
I have been looking long and hard for such a tool for Linux based on SSH
instead of Telnet or Rlogin. Anyone seen one, know of one? This type of
tool is very useful for both clustered systems and non clustered where
there is a
Alex deVries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: Just stirring the pot
My background's in C and perl too. And now I'm learning REXX.
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 15:44, Alex deVries wrote:
But... let's say I have a stem variable with multiple tails; the only
way to pass it to a procedure or have the procedure return such a
structure is to make it a global. This is scary if you were brought up
to believe that globals evil.
Been a
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 16:55, Edwin Handschuh wrote:
My client has developed an application that runs under MVS/USS. It issues a
FORK instruction which causes MVS to create a new address space for the new
task. Considering the new application is going to be running approximately
5,000 tasks
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 18:12, Adam Thornton wrote:
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 16:43, Richard Troth wrote:
/* or if you just want the keys for a specific stem */
'PIPE REXXVARS | DROP FIRST' ,
'| CHANGE 1.2 /v / /=/ | JOIN 1' ,
'| CHANGE 1.2 /n / // |
Thanks Alex.
This is the first time in a mainframe forum that I have not been laughed
out for my remarks about mainframe languages.
I salute the members for their tolerance.
Alex deVries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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02/19/2004 12:54 PM
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PHP and Python are somewhat better,...
PHP? Joking right? PHP's OO implementation is GROTESQUE.
As a multiply wounded veteran of the LOOPS project back in the Dawn of Time
and having written WAY too much Smalltalk, I generally find that OO
programming is usually oversold and is a cheap way
You might want to look at:
http://dsh.sourceforge.net/
There is a similar sounding utility on IBM's SP/2 product, which is layered
on top of AIX. IBM used Kerberos to authentic. Basically, you could issue
a command line to a collection of hosts. The hosts could either be
specified on the
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 23:20, David Boyes wrote:
PHP and Python are somewhat better,...
PHP? Joking right? PHP's OO implementation is GROTESQUE.
As a multiply wounded veteran of the LOOPS project back in the Dawn of Time
and having written WAY too much Smalltalk, I generally find that
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 22:20, David Boyes wrote:
Unfortunately, the mainstream community passed REXX by years ago. Done is
done -- nothing we can do about that now.
Although Rexx does, weirdly, correlate quite well with operating systems
that their devotees absolutely refuse to give up: it's
Alex deVries [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I also want to investigate REXX. Any quick tutorial anywhere?
I have a semi-autographed copy of Phil Smith and Gabe Goldberg's REXX
book (but not in front of me, so I can't get you the ISBN), which is a
great read-it-on-the-plane book. It has a lot of
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 00:39, Adam Thornton wrote:
Although Rexx does, weirdly, correlate quite well with operating systems
that their devotees absolutely refuse to give up: it's been the system
scripting language in VM, OS/2, and AmigaOS.
A very strange thought, Adam. And right You
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