Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread McKown, John
I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit that vendors have of binary only Kernel loadable modules (think 3590

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:53 AM, McKown, John wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit that vendors have

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:25:21AM -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:25:21AM -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
As has been pointed out on Groklaw, the report's title is incorrect. These issues do not affect Linux _users_, only Linux _distributors_, or companies embedding Linux in devices (who are in fact distributors). -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: As has been pointed out on Groklaw, the report's title is incorrect. These issues do not affect Linux _users_, only Linux _distributors_, or companies embedding Linux in devices (who are in fact distributors). It's

Dasd, free major numbers, and zSeries

2006-01-19 Thread MOEUR TIM C
Hello all, I've been hunting around for this answer but as yet I haven't found it so I'll pitch it here. I'm still building our zLinux system on Suse in an LPAR (Not VM). As I use YaST to activate additional DASD that new dasd will be assigned the next logical device node. What happens when I

Re: Dasd, free major numbers, and zSeries

2006-01-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
The next one will become /dev/dasdaa, but you will need to create the device nodes for it. This information is in the device drivers manual that is available on the developerworks site. If you check the archive you may find a script that does that for you (or it may even be in the book). MOEUR

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 01/19/2006 at 09:53 CST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 10:30 -0600, Jay Maynard wrote: I do not agree at all that LKMs almost certainly violate the GPL, considering that Linus has said they do not. Linus is only one copyright holder and he's hardly said they do not just that they maybe don't in some cases. Its an area of law

New OSA config

2006-01-19 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
Hi, Forgive the newbie question. Its's been awhile since we messed with the Linux/390 (SuSE) LPAR here. We are adding a new OSA Express card and need to know how/where to configure this. We would like to have both to begin with. Thanks, Craig

Re: New OSA config

2006-01-19 Thread MOEUR TIM C
Is the system already up and running with one, and you are going to set up a second? If so, YaST works very well to discover and configure the second OSA. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kittendorf, Craig Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:56:52PM +, Alan Cox wrote: On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 10:30 -0600, Jay Maynard wrote: I do not agree at all that LKMs almost certainly violate the GPL, considering that Linus has said they do not. Linus is only one copyright holder and he's hardly said they do not

Re: Dasd, free major numbers, and zSeries

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
I would rephrase that to say you _may_ need to create the device nodes. Check /dev/dasd* to see what the Linux distribution provider ships, then you'll know. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, January

Re: comments on mksles9root.sh for SP3

2006-01-19 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Mike, In your mksles9root.sh for SP3, is there a mixup ? Your script lines (see the echo's below) say 3 SP3's will be built into tree sp1root And 2 SP1's will be built in tree sp3root. Should it be SP3's in tree sp3root, and SP1's in tree sp1root? I haven't checked where they actually are put;

Re: comments on mksles9root.sh for SP3

2006-01-19 Thread Michael MacIsaac
John, Should it be SP3's in tree sp3root, and SP1's in tree sp1root? Yes, you are correct. Good catch. I haven't checked where they actually are put; not up on shell scripting. It's a typo in the help, but not in the name of the tree that actually gets built. I have asked Mark if he can

Strange mksles9root problem

2006-01-19 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all, I've looked at this and scratched my head and it makes no sense to me... I downloaded the latest mksles9root script (w/ SP3 support) and the SP3 ISOs. But when I try to run it on my SLES9 SP3 s390 system, I get: leesles9:/iso # ./mksles9root.sh : bad interpreter: No such file or

Re: Strange mksles9root problem

2006-01-19 Thread Bernard Wu
Lee, Run it thru dos2unix and you should be fine. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU global.net cc: Sent by: Linux on 390

Re: Strange mksles9root problem

2006-01-19 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Lee, But when I try to run it on my SLES9 SP3 s390 system, I get: leesles9:/iso # ./mksles9root.sh : bad interpreter: No such file or directory You are right. I downloaded it from linuxvm.org and got that too: ./mksles9root.marks.sh : bad interpreter: No such file or directory It looks like

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
This guy (and his writings and his company) came up on an internal mailing list a while back, with people complaining about how he was bashing the GPL, etc. My reply then, and now, was that when you take into account his audience (companies that want to use an embedded OS in an appliance, and who

Re: New OSA config

2006-01-19 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
Sorry, my brain is dead and I've stuck in SMP/E this month. The machine is up and running with one but we will come down and back up on another machine and OSA. I thought about making the definitions now to be ready. Craig -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: After run command shutdown -r now...

2006-01-19 Thread Wiggins, Mark
We just started having this problem too. Our problems started once we migrated to the 2.6.5-7.244-s390x kernel. In reading through the PTF (UM31428) as quoted by Heiko Carstens, it suggests that this PTF resolves an issue with a DIAG 308. We ran a DIAG TRACE and never saw DIAG 308 get issued

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Post, Mark K wrote: This guy (and his writings and his company) came up on an internal mailing list a while back, with people complaining about how he was bashing the GPL, etc. My reply then, and now, was that when you take into account his audience (companies that

Re: After run command shutdown -r now...

2006-01-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 1/19/06, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And our TRACE seemed to show a DIAG 44 loop. A lot of CPU getting used with no I/O. Again as stated in the original post, a #CP IPL brought the server back up successfully. At the risk of teaching Granny... that means we're spinning on a

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
Not at all. Re-read it. He particularly talks about people creating appliances and shipping them, and what they need to do to be compliant with the GPL, or how to avoid it by using BSD. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam

Centos ISOs

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Hi, Does anybody know a site that has the Centos ISO images for S390 available? All the mirrors appear to have bittorrent files, and installing bittorrent at work could get me into some trouble. Home is on a 56K dial-up, so that's not really an option either. And no, I don't have a budget to buy

Re: Centos ISOs

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
I would imagine that it isn't the mirrors making a decision to only offer bittorrents, but the CentOS project itself. I doubt anyone has .iso files for the mainframe. Personally, I still don't understand the desire to download .iso images. You still have turn play games to make an installable

Re: Strange mksles9root problem

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
How did you download it? I always use wget, and it doesn't have DOS line endings in it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:19 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Strange

Re: Strange mksles9root problem

2006-01-19 Thread Lee Stewart
I used wget straight to the zSeries Linux instance it failed on... dos2unix fixed it up... Lee Post, Mark K wrote: How did you download it? I always use wget, and it doesn't have DOS line endings in it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 14:20 -0500, Post, Mark K wrote: he's absolutely right. The BSD style licenses are much more business friendly than the GPL. Dangerous assumption. BSD licenses can be a lot less business friendly especially the older one. I worked for a certain networking appliance

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
Alan, It's not an assumption, and you cut out my qualifying statements. It absolutely does depend on your goals. For companies that want to embed an OS and not disclose their own source code (for whatever reason), the GPL is absolutely out of the question. I'm not saying that there is anything

Re: Centos ISOs

2006-01-19 Thread Pasi Pirhonen
Hi, On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:42:22PM -0500, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: Hi, Does anybody know a site that has the Centos ISO images for S390 available? All the mirrors appear to have bittorrent files, and installing bittorrent at work could get me into some trouble.

IBM High Level Assembler for Linux on zSeries

2006-01-19 Thread John R. Ehrman
IBM recently announced the availability of HLASM for Linux on zSeries, as PRPQ 5799-TCQ. It is fully compatible with HLASM on the current MVS, CMS, and VSE operating systems, and can generate the ELF object format as well as the traditional OBJ and GOFF formats. John Ehrman (ehrmanATvnet.ibm.com)

Re: Centos ISOs

2006-01-19 Thread Rick Troth
No one is doing it (I say, without proof, but with confidence) but it IS possible to create IPLable .iso images, either FBA IPLable or presumably also SCSI IPLable. (I've personally done the former.) Can TRACKWRITE handle FBA? If so, then we might could crank out a tool that would stamp

Re: Centos ISOs

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Rick Troth wrote: No one is doing it (I say, without proof, but with confidence) but it IS possible to create IPLable .iso images, either FBA IPLable or presumably also SCSI IPLable. (I've personally done the former.) Can TRACKWRITE handle FBA? If so, then