Re: RHEL8 z/VM requirements?

2019-12-11 Thread Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
For z/VM 7.1 Hardware requirements z/VM V7.1 requires a new architecture level set (ALS) that is available on the: - z14 Models M01, M02, M03, M04, M05, and ZR1 - LinuxONE Emperor II - LinuxONE Rockhopper II - z13 - z13s - LinuxONE Emperor - LinuxONE Rockhopper - IBM

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Herald ten Dam
Hi, for our customer we started with to provide the Linux, but the Linux team wanted to provision it self. They bought Wave but didn't like it because they want to script it. So at the end we use now the CloudConnector for z/VM, nowadays called Feilong and is part of the openmainframe project

RHEL8 z/VM requirements?

2019-12-11 Thread Alan Haff
How about z/VM - what's the minimum version required to run RHEL8 guests? I've reviewed the docs at https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/8/, including

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Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Mike Riggs
Hey Bob, I'm going to chime in with support for zPRO as well. Although not (yet) in production here, we have taken an extensive look at it and continue to figure out a migration plan for our non-Dirmaint environment. Mike -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of James

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 11.12.19 18:00, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Wednesday, 12/11/2019 at 04:18 GMT, "Hamilton, Robert" > wrote: >> I'm interested in this too. I am following the read-only root > documentation, >> which is starting to show its age a little (RedPaper redp4322 is good, > but >> copyright 2008), but

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Is someone looking for a clone "script" for building Linux server on z/VM? Sorry, I think I missed the start of this email trail. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of James Vincent Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread James Vincent
Hello Bob! It *was *a good tool-set and is long gone now unfortunately. Since it was written specifically for that environment even if I still had it, it probably would not be of much use except for the concepts. Humbly I would say zPRO is the way to go because I bet you have better things to do

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Hamilton, Robert
Hi, Jim! IIRC, you had a good cloning tool or set of tools at your previous employer. Is that proprietarily copyrighted, or might that be available for us hackers to adapt to our environments?? R; Rob Hamilton Infrastructure Engineer Chemical Abstracts Service -Original Message-

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Tom Huegel
In the past (z/VM 5.4) I setup XCAT to do LINUX provisioning .. it was a bit of a struggle to get it working but it was free and once I got it going it worked well enough for us. z/VM 6.4 is different .. I haven't done anything with it. On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:39 AM James Vincent wrote: > I

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread James Vincent
I did see the "no budget for buying" but I have a shameless product plug. There is a very affordable, easy to use and vendor-supported product available called zPRO from Velocity Software that will clone (you get an exact copy), clone and personalize (exact copy with new network info, etc) or

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Tom Huegel
In the past (z/VM 5.4) I setup XCAT to do LINUX provisioning .. it was a bit of a struggle to get it working but it was free and once I got it going it worked well enough for us. z/VM 6.4 is different .. I haven't done anything with it. On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:04 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > On

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/11/2019 at 04:18 GMT, "Hamilton, Robert" wrote: > I'm interested in this too. I am following the read-only root documentation, > which is starting to show its age a little (RedPaper redp4322 is good, but > copyright 2008), but still has good stuff about gold instances,

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/11/2019 at 04:28 GMT, Jake Anderson wrote: > We have no budget in buying products to do this > > Is there a other way to get the cloning? I didn't say you had to buy something. I asked how you deploy new Linux servers on other platforms. This is about integrating Z into your

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Alan, Yes, OK, many shops prefer 'build' over 'clone'. Chapter 2 of http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248303.html?Open shows how to use kickstart for RHEL. Our shop still does clones because we have to use golden images hardened by another team. -Mike M On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:19

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Robert, I would not recommend "read only root". It sounds good on paper, but the devil is in the details. I'm not sure any shops are still trying that approach. -Mike On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:23 AM Hamilton, Robert wrote: > I'm interested in this too. I am following the read-only root

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Jake Anderson
Mike I am not worried about oracle but want to just clone a linux alone. As our DBAs are installing the oracle on Linux guest On Wed, 11 Dec, 2019, 8:20 PM Jake Anderson, wrote: > We have no budget in buying products to do this > > Is there a other way to get the cloning? > > On Wed, 11 Dec,

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Jake Anderson
We have no budget in buying products to do this Is there a other way to get the cloning? On Wed, 11 Dec, 2019, 8:19 PM Alan Altmark, wrote: > On Wednesday, 12/11/2019 at 03:31 GMT, Jake Anderson > wrote: > > We are a small shop non SSI and most of the Linux requirements are for > > Oracle. >

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Hamilton, Robert
I'm interested in this too. I am following the read-only root documentation, which is starting to show its age a little (RedPaper redp4322 is good, but copyright 2008), but still has good stuff about gold instances, maintenance and cloning. The other documents I have are the workbooks from some

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Jake, This redbook is old, but I'd hope most of it is still pertinent: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248104.html?Open See Chapter 10 "Automating Oracle on System z" Hope this helps. -Mike On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi Mike > > I am using > > The

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/11/2019 at 03:31 GMT, Jake Anderson wrote: > We are a small shop non SSI and most of the Linux requirements are for > Oracle. > > So which is the best way to do cloning alone ? How does your company deploy Linux and Oracle today (on other platforms)? Cloning isn't always the

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Mike I am using The Virtualization Cookbook for IBM z Systems Volume 1: IBM z/VM 6.3, SG24-8147-01 I have built Linux and done with LVM part alone . We are a small shop non SSI and most of the Linux requirements are for Oracle. So which is the best way to do cloning alone ? Jake On Wed,

Re: zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Jake, Which cookbook are you using? -Mike M On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:20 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hello > > I am pretty new to zLINUX provisioning. > > I have used cookbook to build Linux and if functional. > > From the provisioning part untill which chapter of cookbook i can follow ? >

zLINUX end user provisioning

2019-12-11 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello I am pretty new to zLINUX provisioning. I have used cookbook to build Linux and if functional. >From the provisioning part untill which chapter of cookbook i can follow ? Generally untill which chapter will be followed to provision the Linux guest ? Jake