Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:57:30AM -0600, Eric Bielefeld wrote: Wow, I sure got lots of replies to this. There seems to be a lot of controversy over what the best editor is for Linux. On the IBM Linux Tools for Developers page that someone posted, I counted approximately 53 different Linux

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Rod Furey
Getting this back onto topic lifting the page on this that I wrote for the UK VM Users Group last year, I found uni-SPF and SPF/UX, of which SPF/UX said they had a linux for S/390 version. I don't know whether these are any good since I agree with Melinda's assesment of ISPF. THE has recently

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Post, Mark K
If he is, I can put it up on linuxvm.org. Mark -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question You wouldn't be willing to share your teaching materials would

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Lionel Dyck
, and another 10 that are used often but don't need to be memorized. - Original Message - From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Alan and others, Thanks for the info. The one from

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Wow, I sure got lots of replies to this. There seems to be a lot of controversy over what the best editor is for Linux. On the IBM Linux Tools for Developers page that someone posted, I counted approximately 53 different Linux editors. I guess as several have pointed out, I will have to

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Ryan Ware
-Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Wow, I sure got lots of replies to this. There seems to be a lot of controversy over what the best

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Post, Mark K
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Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Paul Raulerson
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question You wouldn't be willing to share your teaching materials would you Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Lionel Dyck
PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Sure - what address would you like a copy at? I'll send it along and if you have questions, I'd be willing to answer them here or on some real-time chat channel. I need the practice, I have not taught a course

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-19 Thread Steve Guthrie
. Just remember, no one editor is the cat's meow. Thanks, Steve Guthrie Mantissa Corporation -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Eric, You'll need to install Regina/Rexx to use THE, since it depends on it being installed. Mark Pot -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Alan

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Alan and others, Thanks for the info. The one from UnEclipse Software can be bought on special right now for $89. I used to use XEDIT, so I can probably get by with the hessling-editor also, which is free. I do very little progamming or REXX, so I don't think I would want to try to do that.

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
on it being installed. Mark Pot -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Alan and others, Thanks for the info. The one from UnEclipse Software can

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread John Summerfield
Alan and others, Thanks for the info. The one from UnEclipse Software can be bought on specia l right now for $89. I used to use XEDIT, so I can probably get by with the hessling-editor also, which is free. I do very little progamming or REXX, so I don't think I would want to try to do

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Vic Cross
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Eric Bielefeld wrote: I used to use XEDIT, so I can probably get by with the hessling-editor also, which is free. I 'grew up' with ISPF, so the thing I find most difficult about XEDIT is when I try and do ISPF commands with it. ;-( Perhaps one day I'll do real work in

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 01:19, John Summerfield wrote: Linux users seem divided into two camps. One like vi (I use vim which comes with RHL) The other likes emacs. There are at least two other camps A growing 'I clicked on edit file' community, which I think is good for the non technical end

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread David Boyes
I want to avoid the Vi editor at all costs. The hour I worked on it at an IBM class for AIX long ago convinced me I want to stay away from Vi. [...] My point is that it might seem like the most efficient thing to bring your 'favourite editor' to your new platform. However, consider

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Oh, and in a pinch ed or sed can be your friend. On Tuesday 18 February 2003 08:01 pm, you wrote: I want to avoid the Vi editor at all costs. The hour I worked on it at an IBM class for AIX long ago convinced me I want to stay away from Vi. [...] My point is that it might

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Jay Maynard
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:08:39AM +, Alan Cox wrote: A growing 'I clicked on edit file' community, which I think is good for the non technical end of things. Also the 'wordstar is king' community who tend to run joe (or hardcore wstar folk as 'jstar'). Naw. *Really* hardcore W* folks do

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread Paul Raulerson
that are used often but don't need to be memorized. - Original Message - From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question Alan and others, Thanks for the info. The one from UnEclipse Software can

Re: ISPF for Linux + Other Question

2003-02-18 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:08:39AM +, Alan Cox wrote: A growing 'I clicked on edit file' community, which I think is good for the non technical end of things. Also the 'wordstar is king' community who tend to run joe (or hardcore wstar folk as 'jstar'). Naw. *Really* hardcore W* folks