I know this is off topic for these two lists. I hope ya'll will forgive me as I
hope that many here may be interested anyway. There is a new forum for Desktop
Linux users. It is being set up by some iSeries people.
The wiki has just started up and is at:
http://linuxdesktop4i.midrange.comhttp
I like how the wiki is beginning to take shape. But I do have a request.
Can the content of the Disaster Recovery subpage be moved down in a hierarchy
so that alternatives to FDR/Upstream can be documented at the same level of
hierarchy? We use DFSMS's ADRDSSU utility under z/OS for our full
On 9/28/2009 at 12:49 PM, Kern, Thomas thomas.k...@hq.doe.gov wrote:
I like how the wiki is beginning to take shape. But I do have a request.
Can the content of the Disaster Recovery subpage be moved down in a
hierarchy so that alternatives to FDR/Upstream can be documented at the same
Look at it now. Is this what you had in mind?
Ron
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On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Kern, Thomas thomas.k...@hq.doe.gov
wrote:
I like how the wiki is beginning to take shape. But I do have a
request.
Can the content of the Disaster Recovery subpage be moved down
Yes, that works.
Thanks.
/Tom Kern
Ron Foster at Baldor-IS wrote:
Look at it now. Is this what you had in mind?
Ron
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Stephen Frazier wrote:
Martha McConaghy wrote:
Whether or not you are willing to trust the information provided on
the wiki
is totally up to each individual. Just because some wiki's are full
of crap
isn't really a good reason not to try this one.
Extensive history suggests that Wikis
a useful project. I just don't think the discussion tools in the
wiki are very good.
Good or not, they can provide a record of why things were done and why
they were done the way that were.
On a list, discussion can peter out quit quickly, even when a matter
remains unresolved, errors will never
Mark Post wrote:
There are a few rules, for lack of a better term, that will apply to the Wiki,
none of them particularly onerous:
1. Although technically not required, we would prefer that anyone
contributing to the wiki create an account before doing so.
You should insist
Mark Post wrote:
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for mainframe
Linux and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was thought that having a Wiki
with a fair amount of content already in it would
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, Douglas M. Wooster d...@isomedia.com wrote:
-snip-
I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
searching reference material.
I'm not sure how this meme got started, but nobody
John Summerfield wrote:
David, Jack was referring to the discussion of the wiki itself when he
was talking about discussion on the wiki.
That's correct, and that's all I was saying.
--
Jack J. Woehr# «'I know what it means well enough, when I find
http://www.well.com/~jax
a useful project. I just don't think the discussion tools in the
wiki are very good.
- db
On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:07 AM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org
wrote:
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, Douglas M. Wooster
d...@isomedia.com wrote:
-snip-
I'm sure one could
My vote on this topic is that the real time, day to day discussions stay
here on the lists (VM and zLinux). I like the fact that the information
comes to me, via e-mail, with no effort on my part.
I think a proper role for the Linux Wiki would be to take on part of the
functionally
have been
doing this a long time and which can be of help to the new folks who keep
showing up asking for help. A wiki seemed like a useful place to try and do
that. (Dave even tried to get something like this going a few years ago.)
Mark Post is simply trying to get that movement going again
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
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Jack J. Woehr# «'I know what it means well enough, when I find
http://www.well.com/~jax # a thing
. I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
searching reference material. Being able to place documentation
where other people can find it, like you can do on a wiki, is great,
when you have something authoritative to say.
Also
I agree with last speaker John Summerfield here.
A wiki has it's pros and cons, I think it's best use is for keeping links,
hints and tips, useful scripts, experinces and solution to problems and so on.
A sort of 'nice-to-have-docs' at a known location.
The place to put things if it is suitable
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
--
Cheers
John
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John Summerfield wrote:
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
Wasn't the intent
for anything new one has to go looking.
In contrast, everything on this list arrives in my inbox. I see
everything, choose what to read, respond where I feel the urge. If it
was a wiki, I'd be battling to keep up, I'd probably just fall away.
General rant aside, I think that's the point
this a long time and which can be of help to the new folks who keep
showing up asking for help. A wiki seemed like a useful place to try and do
that. (Dave even tried to get something like this going a few years ago.)
Mark Post is simply trying to get that movement going again and I appreciate
his efforts
On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, Douglas M. Wooster d...@isomedia.com wrote:
-snip-
I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
searching reference material.
I'm not sure how this meme got started, but nobody is advocating
feed button on it. (Also an Atom button
that has the same icon as the RSS feed, but I'm not familiar with that.) But,
that will notify you every time a new user account is created, etc.
But beyond that, the idea of a Wiki isn't something you look at every so often
to see if anything changed. You
On Mon September 21 2009, Mark Post Mark Post mp...@novell.com
wrote:
On 9/16/2009 at 9:46 PM, Douglas M. Wooster
d...@isomedia.com wrote:
Cool idea, Mark.
If I had some direct experience with Linux on z, I'd write
something.
I suggest that some good topics would be related to
I seem to have lost that link to the Wiki server , anyone please
Cordialement / Vriendelijke Groeten / Best Regards / Med Vänliga Hälsningar
Tore Agblad
Volvo Information Technology
Infrastructure Mainframe Design Development
SE-405 08, Gothenburg Sweden
E-mail: tore.agb
http://wiki.linuxvm.org/wiki/Main_Page
Regards
Paul
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Tore
Sent: 22 September 2009 10:02
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM Wiki
I seem to have lost that link
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Ugh. Please, no.
Not anything personal, but:
:rant.
Pet peeve -- scattering the discussion all over the place and changing it from
David Boyes wrote:
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
What's wrong with discussing it here,
What's wrong with keeping all the source files in your computer program
Jack Woehr wrote:
David Boyes wrote:
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
What's wrong with discussing it here,
What's wrong with keeping all the source files in your
On 9/16/2009 at 9:46 PM, Douglas M. Wooster d...@isomedia.com wrote:
Cool idea, Mark.
If I had some direct experience with Linux on z, I'd write something.
I suggest that some good topics would be related to network
configuration and boot setup. Those look like the areas that are
most
, etc.
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
--
Jack J. Woehr# «'I know what it means well enough, when I find
http://www.well.com/~jax # a thing,' said the Duck: 'it's
On 9/21/2009 at 2:36 PM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote:
-snip-
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Making that happen is the end goal. The reality of the moment
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/21/2009 at 2:36 PM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote:
-snip-
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Making that happen is the end goal
Nice work Mark! Will spend some time there.
Gerard
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:21 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Linux and z/VM Wiki
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for
mainframe Linux and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was
thought that having a Wiki with a fair amount of content already in it would
help it reach
On Wed September 16 2009, Mark Post Mark Post mp...@novell.com
wrote:
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for mainframe Linux
and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was thought
that having a Wiki
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:50 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to install dokuwiki as per one suggestion but it would not install. I
had no availabe controls so all I could do was delete it by hand. Now any php
file I try to load brings up
BTW, for a reasonably useful trick (I hate having to figure some things
out) I tend to (as root):
ln -s /srv/www/htdocs /HTML
so that I *know* the root of the default web content. This has been useful
since I've had to cope with multiple OSes where their document root has
varied.
I
It has been brought to my attention that there is no such thing as Instwiki,
which I mentioned yesterday. That is because I mis-typed it -- the name should
actually be instiki (with no w).
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Jon
doesn't Mediawiki require PHP5rhel4 gives me 4.3.9, are there other
alternatives out there?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:24:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [LINUX-390] Wiki
I've put up MediaWiki
I can't throw too many stones... Since there are well over 65 penguins
sitting in my office.
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In theory,
If all you need is a small, easy to set up, and easy to carry around wiki, you
could try Instwiki.
Jon
I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into a DB
that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise though.
We are a very small group (6
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 9:47 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
doesn't Mediawiki require PHP5rhel4 gives me 4.3.9, are there other
alternatives out there?
Yes, it does. There are lots of alternatives, as have been listed here
recently. But, if
you know how to fix
this mess I've made for myself?
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To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:35:29 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [LINUX-390] Wiki
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 9:47 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Taylor
doesn't Mediawiki require PHP5rhel4 gives me 4.3.9, are there
other alternatives out there?
Well, seldon is a RHEL4 AS running on an xSeries box, and, yes,
the PHP _is_ 4.3.9... so we used a back-level version from the
mediawiki site.
I _have_ noticed that openSuSE 10.2 has mediawiki
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Wiki
I can't throw too many stones... Since there are well over 65 penguins
sitting in my office.
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Gregg Levine wrote:
And as you'd all expect from my company name I have here four
What, Gmail? Doesn't ring my bells.
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After looking I fount that there are several Wiki
engines available. Which
one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best?
Pretty much. Most of the differences are on the back ends, and they all
pretty much provide similar services and tools. You should put some time
On 5/15/07, Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best?
There's functional differences in the Wiki engines as well, so YMMV
depending on what you want to do with it.
I was rather pleased with the built-in functions in my Wiki
After looking I fount that there are several Wiki
engines available. Which one is the best?
Mike MacIsaac and I have installed and played with both MediaWiki, and
Confluence.
Yes, and I've also run moinmoin on z. moinmoin's backend is just the
filesystem, so you can cheat and modify content
Stephen Frazier wrote:
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the
IT documentation that is
spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several
Wiki engines available. Which
one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best?
MediaWiki
On 5/16/07, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW - the local LUG (Linux User Group) has been a great source of Linux
information in general. I've even gotten my LIP level 1 cert through
them. They kind of laugh at my mainframe mentality, but that's their loss.
Yes. Isn't it cool that
Hi,
We are running Mambo (www.mamboserver.com) on zLinux in our internal network,
it's basically an Open Source CMS (similar so MS Share Point) and it has a wiki
module.
Regards,
-Jose
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From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT
documentation that is
spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki
engines available. Which
one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best?
Wiki does not organise. One
software with PHP/MySQL but
found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are
also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest.
Is wiki not the way for me to go?
thank you, gurus
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From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LINUX-390
the occaisional DB
updates and compilations. I was considering just writing my own software with
PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a memory hog so am unsure how that will
affect us. We are also somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest.
Is wiki not the way for me to go?
If you've got six people
software with PHP/MySQL but found MySQL to be a
memory hog so am unsure how that will affect us. We are also
somewhat constrained with z/Linux under a z/VM guest.
Is wiki not the way for me to go?
Well...
I prefer a wiki to using a Lotus Notes TeamRoom simply because
no one has to run a Lotus Notes
On May 16, 2007, at 4:42 PM, John Campbell wrote:
I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon,
Setting up MediaWiki can get pretty hari.
Adam
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I also am looking for something to collect documentation tidbits into
a DB
that all can contribute to. We do have a need to search and organise
though.
Take a look at content management systems like Drupal or Mambo as well
as wiki. I like the simplicity of the wiki idea, but it's biggest flaw
José L. Ramírez wrote:
Hi,
We are running Mambo (www.mamboserver.com) on zLinux in our internal network,
it's basically an Open Source CMS (similar so MS Share Point) and it has a wiki
module.
There were some difficulties with IP - trademarks and such, I believe,
and the project forked
I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon, here, for
I misread that as Seldom at first, and began to imagine cool domain
names to go with it.
our lab-specific documents and links. We were considering the
need to add two more for other users to use which would have
been placed on
I've put up MediaWiki on a machine we named Seldon,
Setting up MediaWiki can get pretty hari.
Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine in my
office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two
tuned bells on it, providing, of course...
the rama llama
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:36:48PM -0400, David Boyes wrote:
Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine in my
office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two
tuned bells on it, providing, of course...
the rama llama ding-dong
Good thing the bells
On May 16, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Jay Maynard wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:36:48PM -0400, David Boyes wrote:
Hari? What about the stuffed animal sitting on the desktop machine
in my
office (providently named 'rama')? It has a nice new collar with two
tuned bells on it, providing, of course...
Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama
ding
dong is sitting in front of the keyboard.
Hmph. This from the guy in the Tron suit.
Look, you lisp, and wear strange suits! -- Wm Shakespeare, Two
Gentlemen of Verona
-- db (who's feeling a bit silly this evening)
On 5/16/07, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good thing the bells are there...lest an observer think the rama llama
ding
dong is sitting in front of the keyboard.
Hmph. This from the guy in the Tron suit.
Look, you lisp, and wear strange suits! -- Wm Shakespeare, Two
Gentlemen of Verona
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT
documentation that is
spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki
engines available. Which
one is the best? Is that like asking which editor is the best?
MediaWiki will run on Debian-390
and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Stephen Frazier
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 14:30
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] Wiki
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 5:30 PM, in message
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wrote:
I am considering using Wiki to organize and make available some of the IT
documentation that is
spread all over my shop. After looking I fount that there are several Wiki
engines
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Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stefan Raabe
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2007 10:12
An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Wiki on zLinux
Hello group,
has anyone implemented a wiki on zLinux? If so, do you mind to share what
software and versions you used
Hello group,
has anyone implemented a wiki on zLinux? If so, do you mind to
share what software and versions you used for:
* zLinux
* php
* web server
* database
* ?!?
Thanks and regards,
Stefan
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Hello, Stefan.
I used MediaWiki (the wikipedia
Stefan,
has anyone implemented a wiki on zLinux? If so, do you mind to
share what software and versions you used for:
* zLinux
* php
* web server
* database
I've tried Moinmoin, Mediawiki and Confluence.
Moin-moin worked well with standard SLES9 apache2 and php4. It has no
database
We run JSPWiki (http://www.jspwiki.org) on z/OS and Intel Linux, the
only requirement for this wiki is a JSP/Servlet engine, and in both
cases we use Tomcat.
So you could easily run this on zLinux, you only z-specific thing is the
JVM ( 1.4).
regards,
Harry Metske
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has anyone implemented a wiki on zLinux? If so, do you mind to
share what software and versions you used for:
It's no different than any other Linux system. We use mediawiki, but we
tried a couple of others too.
* zLinux
Debian, RH, SuSE, Slackware
* php
PHP4/5 packages included from
On Jan 5, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Stefan Raabe wrote:
Hello group,
has anyone implemented a wiki on zLinux? If so, do you mind to
share what software and versions you used for:
* zLinux
* php
* web server
* database
* ?!?
Thanks and regards,
Well, I've *installed* mediawiki on Debian, using
When we first installed Mediawiki, it was on the Marist College z990
that had 800+ other z/VM guests on it. Even though overall CPU busy was
only about 80%, performance was not good at all. Not sure if the issue
was I/O contention or what. Web server performance, without going
through the wiki
This is just a thought that is echoing in the dim dimensions of my mind. Is
possible to run a Wiki on Linux/390? What I thinking of is something like an
informal tips and techniques site which the programmers could easily
update and access. How easy is it to search a wiki site? We do have a site
This is just a thought that is echoing in the dim dimensions
of my mind. Is
possible to run a Wiki on Linux/390? What I thinking of is
something like an
informal tips and techniques site which the programmers could easily
update and access.
The source for the major versions compiles
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 08:14:38AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
This is just a thought that is echoing in the dim dimensions of my mind. Is
possible to run a Wiki on Linux/390?
Why not? You basically need a basic web application server (e.g: apache,
with standard ocnfiguration)
Wikis come in all
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