Apparently someone's reality is some other alternate universe. The real
issue, not being a technical one,
is the political-management error of listening to DBAs with some other
unreal agenda. That's really the shocking
part of the story. And using that part to serve as fact, is my issue with
this. I know that Oracle on Linux can work well,
and that's the truth.
zNorman
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 Wednesday 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Moving Oracle off zLinux boxes -- comments from the field?
so is this guy a troll or just someone clueless (and i'm tryin to be nice).
And I assume that Alan is behind the wood shed counciling...
Considering Oracle is extremely virtual friendly where DB2 is completely
virtual hostile (polling at 200,000 times a second was for High Availability
or something silly). Considering MANY positive experiences presented around
the world for Oracle, and zero for DB2, i just better stop.
Christopher Cox wrote:
Oracle is NOT supporting them well on zLinux. So... there's both the
financial and technical reason.
Why would anyone stay with a platform that is not well supported?
Oracle couldn't handle it, so they are moving.
Now... certainly the false mindset issue surrounding mainframes is
an issue... but I'd probably move Oracle too if they weren't willing
to address support issues in a timely manner.
Maybe it's time to change your database supplier?? You know, if if
you have to move it, I wonder if moving to something a bit more heavy
duty, like a IBM Power7 box was even considered... If DB2 isn't an
option, maybe Oracle on Power7 would be a better fit (saying without
knowledge of Oracle's commitment of support there as well).
From: Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date: 03/18/2011 04:04 PM
Subject: Re: Moving Oracle off zLinux boxes -- comments from the
field?
Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
wow, your DBAs have the authority to spend that kind of money and make
that kind of change without management signature? So no financial
analysis, no technical reason, sounds religious.
CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote:
We just had a surprise announcement by one of the Oracle DBAs during
a zLinux Application group planning meeting at our worksite. The
DBA advised us that they (Database group) were going to move/migrate
all the Oracle databases that we have on zLinux boxes off to an
intel/unix platform. He did not offer details of the hardware, or
when or how, just that they were going to do it. This is a bite of a
surprise as we have just moved our MQ off the Mainframe (zOS) to the
zLinux platform (guests on zVM) and that move is doing well. This may
be due in part to the false mindset that we have in our upper
management at our site that Mainframes are old technology. Also we
have had slow response from Oracle on resolving issues we have
identify (certifying Oracle 11 on z390x architecture, getting Oracle
10 support for RHEL 5.0 on z390x architecture). Has anyone else on
this list had any related war stories similar to what we may be
about to experience as this move takes place?
James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM zLinux
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