Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-20 Thread David Boyes
 Got some time on your hands? Look at the etherboot[1] project; it has a
 PXE  boot rom these days. Does Some things better than pxelinux.

Interesting, but a fairly large task. Lots of Intel assembler,
unfortunately. Still, useful as a source of design ideas.

 1 It needs a driver for your nic, but I suspect that Linux drivers are
 readily adapted.

I may have a solution for that if someone feels particularly inspired to
work on this.

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-19 Thread John Summerfield

Michael MacIsaac wrote:

Hello list,

Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the deep-dish


It's a fish, a very ugly fish with nasty spines, which is very fine on
the table.

Dad claims to have carried razor blades to remove their spines, when he
went fishing for them around Mill Point, South Perth in the 30s.



fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

I wouldn't bother asking, but it seems they are looking at a port to
s390x: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/SssThreeNinety


Oh, that one. Shouldn't be too difficult, I think it's mostly written in
python.



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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-19 Thread John Summerfield

David Boyes wrote:

Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the

deep-dish

fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/


Several of our university clients use it for Intel lab machines. Depends
very heavily on DHCP and PXE, but it's pretty slick when you've got it
set up and working.

Having PXE support for s390 would be pretty slick, esp if the boot
PROM image could be loaded from a NSS.


Got some time on your hands? Look at the etherboot[1] project; it has a
PXE  boot rom these days. Does Some things better than pxelinux.

Cal be booted from floppy too:-)

Oh, so no floppy? I'm sure it could be booted from a USB disk or even a
VM Minidisk:-)

1 It needs a driver for your nic, but I suspect that Linux drivers are
readily adapted.

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Peter 1 Oberparleiter
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 16.07.2008 23:34:42:
   Having PXE support for s390 would be pretty slick, esp if the boot
   PROM image could be loaded from a NSS.

 This could be easily accomplished by using the CMS IPLer and a very
 stripped down Linux kernel and a port of the PXE loader code. It's
 basically TFTP plus some little stuff.

 If you went the Linux route, you could use the IPLer to put the NSS with
 the minikernel system into memory in one piece, do the normal PXE DHCP
 and tftp steps to put the kernel into a fixed location, and then crash
 the boot ROM image by jumping directly to the new kernel.

plugTotally not related to PXE, but: a mini-Linux system that loads and
starts other kernels via disk or network on s390 is what the System Loader
approach [1] is all about. The required setup procedure is IMO somewhat..
ugly, but the basic concept could be useful in some environments. Not
sure if this applies to cobbler though./plug


[1] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/sysload.html

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread David Boyes
[1] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/sysload.html

Interesting. If it implemented tftp, it'd be pretty much what would be
needed. 

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Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello list,

Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the deep-dish
fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

I wouldn't bother asking, but it seems they are looking at a port to
s390x: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/SssThreeNinety

Just FYI...

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Patrick Spinler

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Michael MacIsaac wrote:
| Hello list,
|
| Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the deep-dish
| fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
| http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
|
| I wouldn't bother asking, but it seems they are looking at a port to
| s390x: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/SssThreeNinety
|

No, I haven't.  I'm curious how it compares to / interacts with Redhat
Satellite, though.  When I was testing with satellite on distributed
platforms I found it difficult to create working client upgrade channel
operations, so I'm interested in possible alternatives.

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Mark Perry

Michael MacIsaac wrote:

Hello list,

Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the deep-dish
fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

I wouldn't bother asking, but it seems they are looking at a port to
s390x: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/SssThreeNinety

Just FYI...


I don't see any plugin for the z/VM SMAPI ;-)

mark

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread David Boyes
 Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the
deep-dish
 fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
 http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

Several of our university clients use it for Intel lab machines. Depends
very heavily on DHCP and PXE, but it's pretty slick when you've got it
set up and working. 

Having PXE support for s390 would be pretty slick, esp if the boot
PROM image could be loaded from a NSS. 

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Brad Hinson

David Boyes wrote:

Anyone heard of cobbler?  (no, not the shoe repairman nor the

deep-dish

fruit dessert with a thick top crust :))  This one:
http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/


Several of our university clients use it for Intel lab machines. Depends
very heavily on DHCP and PXE, but it's pretty slick when you've got it
set up and working.

Having PXE support for s390 would be pretty slick, esp if the boot
PROM image could be loaded from a NSS.



I'm new to cobbler, but over the last few weeks I've been working with
the cobbler community to get it working on s390.  Eventually cobbler
will be integrated into Satellite, as well as the recently announced
Spacewalk, the open source Satellite:

http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/

Cobbler has a lot of promise on s390.  The immediate goal is to get
reprovisioning working, and the ultimate goal is to get bare metal
provisioning via PXE working.  The current thought is to write a
*very* simplified PXE client as a REXX exec run at startup.  It presents
you with a menu, then based on your choice, uses the z/VM FTP client to
download the correct kernel/initrd from the (cobbler) server.

It's still in the development stages, so feel free to hit me with ideas
and feedback (good or bad of course).  Also, a couple of links:

Mailing list:
https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler

IRC:
irc.freenode.net, #cobbler

-Brad


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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread David Boyes
  Having PXE support for s390 would be pretty slick, esp if the boot
  PROM image could be loaded from a NSS.

This could be easily accomplished by using the CMS IPLer and a very
stripped down Linux kernel and a port of the PXE loader code. It's
basically TFTP plus some little stuff. 

If you went the Linux route, you could use the IPLer to put the NSS with
the minikernel system into memory in one piece, do the normal PXE DHCP
and tftp steps to put the kernel into a fixed location, and then crash
the boot ROM image by jumping directly to the new kernel. 

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Re: Cobbler anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread Arty Ecock
Hi,

   I've been looking at getting cobbler to run on s390x to serve as a
provisioning manager for x86 (and friends).  It installs without too much
fuss on RHEL 5.2.  Getting it to install on SLES10 SP2 looks far more
challenging.

   Our immediate need is for rapid x86 provisioning (we have the s390x
provisioning down to a science).

Cheers,
Arty

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