Crappy Soundchips [was Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] ]Re: image problem...

2002-10-23 Thread Werner Schweer
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 11:51, Takashi Iwai wrote: ... - SB AWE models (ugh, crap!) - Yamaha YMF7xx/DS-XG (some have reported that these work ok, but in any case they have a max 3 periods limitation similar to cs4281, which can confuse apps) no, instead, the interrupts are

Re: Music N style sw w/ JACK-support (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem)

2002-10-23 Thread pdq808
Kai Vehmanen schrieb: - there's patch for PD that provides JACK-support - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1169519 Actually, this is no longer current. Check the pd list archive for newer approaches to pd jackification. Personally, I now use Günther Geiger's patch

Re: Crappy Soundchips [was Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] ]Re: image problem...

2002-10-23 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:16:08 +0200, Werner Schweer wrote: On Wednesday 23 October 2002 11:51, Takashi Iwai wrote: ... - SB AWE models (ugh, crap!) - Yamaha YMF7xx/DS-XG (some have reported that these work ok, but in any case they have a max 3 periods limitation similar to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Stefan Nitschke
From: Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 09:38:26 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: the problem with converging IIR is that either the IIR or the converging algorithm or both don't like impulses that are too lively. the converger will simply fall dead when it sees an exponentially

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] helpfor a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Paul Winkler wrote: I can certainly sympathize with that one. Supposedly there is some work being done on supporting USB audio devices under ALSA; that may be our best hope. (Yes, I know USB has potentiall horrible latency. ) I have just this morning been able to get a pure ecasound sine wave

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem

2002-10-23 Thread STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Anthony [mailto:avan;uwm.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem * Ivica Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Oct 22 02 20:16]: I am thankful for Jack, but at the same time that does not

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Peter L Jones [mailto:peter;drealm.org.uk] On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 20:27, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Peter wrote: All these things just make life _easier_. I want to get on with developing code, not wondering why my hardware isn't performing. I don't

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Patrick Shirkey [mailto:pshirkey;boosthardware.com] Eric wrote: it is also pretty much useless for general users. I mean if I can't listen to mp3 and browse the web at the same time ... (without sound servers which were discussed recently and as far as

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On 23 Oct 2002, Benno Senoner wrote: I contacted the author of the VQF plugin about opinions of running windows plugins under Linux. He is not subscribed to LAD so he told me to forward this mail to the list. cheers, Benno Interesting. But one idea I just got... Could it be possible to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread Taybin Rutkin
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: Could it be possible to overcome all problems mentioned just by simply adding jack-support to the wine-server? Then someone could make a simple windows-program for chaining directx and vst plug-ins. Someone has done this, I believe:

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] hel p for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread Bob Ham
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:07:22PM -0500, STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI) wrote: BTW creative provides some linux support. Heh, no, they don't. They've provided a paper on an FX8010, a chip that the emu10k1 implements or something, and they released some register info, and that's it. Basically, afaict,

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread Mark Knecht
Taybin, So I may one day be able to run Acid Pro in wine and route audio to alsa? That would be just too cool for words! ;-) Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:linux-audio-dev-admin;music.columbia.edu]On Behalf Of Kjetil S. Matheussen Sent: Wednesday, October 23,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Soundcard spotting

2002-10-23 Thread Bob Ham
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:22:41AM +0300, Kai Vehmanen wrote: Ok, maybe the current SB cards are better, but I'll never forgive the company the disappointment their AWE64Gold caused me. Such waste of money! ;) Oi! I won't have a word against the AWE cards. This track:

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Soundcard spotting

2002-10-23 Thread ljp
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:49 pm, Bob Ham wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:22:41AM +0300, Kai Vehmanen wrote: Ok, maybe the current SB cards are better, but I'll never forgive the company the disappointment their AWE64Gold caused me. Such waste of money! ;) Oi! I won't have a word

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:37:17PM +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: still i'm not convinced that a sine should only be compressed if 0 by valve_1209.so. I'm not either. Tubes don't do that. Tube distortion is famous for emphasizing even harmonics, but it certainly isn't *all* even harmonics. A bit of

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Soundcard spotting

2002-10-23 Thread Peter L Jones
On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 23:22, Kai Vehmanen wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Peter L Jones wrote: Heh. Now, one of these I have in my machine ((PII vintage) Celeron 400) already. The other would set me back £150. Your comment makes me think there's little to choose between them. So, simply

Re: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins

2002-10-23 Thread chrismorgan
Just so people don't think the code has fallen off of the face of the planet ;-) Currently I'm working on two things with the wine jack driver , one of which needs to be complete before I submit the patch, the other can wait until some ongoing jack support is complete. 1. The driver currently

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread Eric Pouech
Wow, it allready exist. Hey, wine-people, this driver is really needed for real-time audio-work, and for programs as sound-editors, multitrackers and interactive dsp programs as pd, jmax, and a lot of others. Artsd (f.ex) is not an alternative in its current form, and probably never will be

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:37:17 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: still i'm not convinced that a sine should only be compressed if 0 by valve_1209.so. Well, the valve plugin is an aproximation of a single valve, a guitar amp has several if I understand correctly. To make distortion I generally use a

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] hel p for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Patrick Shirkey [mailto:pshirkey;boosthardware.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:38 AM Plus the sound matrix at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ doesn't say there are problems getting docs from manufacturer. Perhaps someone should

Re: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins

2002-10-23 Thread Jesse Chappell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 23-Oct-2002: Just so people don't think the code has fallen off of the face of the planet ;-) Currently I'm working on two things with the wine jack driver , one of which needs to be complete before I submit the patch, the other can wait until some

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Music N style sw w/ JACK-support (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem)

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 08:09:24 +0200, Reiner Klenk wrote: I've used both (both are available as RPMs from Planet CCRMA), and they are good, but I think that the plugin~ object is a bit awkward, and I couldn't express all LADSPA ports in message objects (some problem with spaces I think).

[linux-audio-dev] DJCJ Linux Audio Developers Tech Support database.

2002-10-23 Thread Patrick Shirkey
I'm pleased to anounce that a database for people willing to provide Tech Suppport to their local community has been setup. The service is free of charge and hosted at http://www.djcj.org/ The purpose of this database is to promote the professional arm of the Linux Audio Developers community.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Soundcard spotting

2002-10-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:59 pm, ljp wrote: It's not the equipment you have that really counts.. it's what you do with it! One day a photgrapher was showing off some pictures at a gallery. An onlooker came up, admired the pictures, and asked the photographer what kind of camera it was

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Mark Knecht wrote: Taybin, So I may one day be able to run Acid Pro in wine and route audio to alsa? That would be just too cool for words! ;-) I guess you can do that allready with wine? The point with jack is to use things as GRM-tools and Waves plug-ins in

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread Patrick Shirkey
this is what's on the page: Creative Labs | Soundblaster Live Platinum | EMU10K1 | Install | (4)[A][B] bottom of the page: (4) Hardware mixing supported ... NOTE: Just because an I/O is listed does NOT mean it is guaranteed to be supported. Please check the mailing list archives before

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Tim Goetze
Paul Winkler wrote: This is also worth considering, by a guy who's put a lot of time into building analog (solid-state) tube amp simulators: http://home3.netcarrier.com/~lxh2/distampt.html also the other shots the same guy has (pod distortion actually sounds quite good imo):

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-23 Thread David Gerard Matthews
Mark Knecht wrote: Taybin, So I may one day be able to run Acid Pro in wine and route audio to alsa? That would be just too cool for words! ;-) Mark Don't get your hopes up. I can't even get Sibelius to run in wine - and I didn't even attempt midi entry or playback. Besides, I don't know

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Lea Anthony
Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! -Lea. On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 20:06, Steve Harris wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:37:17 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: still i'm not convinced that a sine should only be compressed if 0 by valve_1209.so. Well, the valve plugin is an

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:01:45 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: http://home3.netcarrier.com/~lxh2/pod.html where a sine morphs into something almost perfectly square as the gain rises (much like your first link's scope images from the real tube thing). i'm not sure how to correctly model this

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Tim Goetze
Steve Harris wrote: Stacking the valve plugins is the key to making them sound interesting. ah, now i dig it. maybe you could make a note about the intended use in the valve doc? i've copied (950 + 50 silent) samples of each into http://quitte.de/fender-sine.wave -- the quitte.de quota is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Tim Goetze
Steve Harris wrote: I've been playing with the crossover dist, I've implemented some better crossover behaviour and fixed a serious (and stupid) bug, which is probably the source of some of what sounded like aliasing. :) It only does something meaningful if you run it with smoothing=1.0 The

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Tim Goetze
Lea Anthony wrote: Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! haven't heard it yet, no. if you happen to use it, it'd be very interesting to hear how much cpu load the different sub-modules generate. tim

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Davis
Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! seconded. i've heard amplitube and its amazing. if you have it, you can toss out every cabinet you've ever used except your favorite, just for nostalgia's sake. if they put amplitude in a small red, round box (hint, hint) and sold it, it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 06:11:12 -0700, John Lazzaro wrote: OS license upgrade fees, etc) is easier to make. Certainly on the CLI side, many people started out at Cygwin users to run emacs and gcc and TeX under Windows, and then decided to add a dual-boot option for Linux to get the real

Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

2002-10-23 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:07:22 +0300 (EEST), Kai Vehmanen wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Peter L Jones wrote: I don't want to have to learn about DSPs and stuff to be able to identify a _good_ sound card. I've currently got a shortlist for my next machine: * MidiMan Delta Audiophile 2496