Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:02:51 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: 603k! ah well i needed a fresh set anyway, you changed the plate since .2.8, right? Yes, though it could still do with some work. I'm not sure what exactly, I've never played with a real plate. Its a physical model, and they can be

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 05:24:48 -0700, Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:45:27AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: No, it will not be bandlimited. I'l have to think about how to do this. Maybe just by using an oversampled Chebyshev(sp?) and increasing harmonic level with the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:50:29 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: ah, now i dig it. maybe you could make a note about the intended use in the valve doc? Yeah, I should probably do that. Documentation (well english in general!) is not my strong point. good. do you think the 44100/12 oscillation is a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:50:29 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: Steve Harris wrote: Stacking the valve plugins is the key to making them sound interesting. ah, now i dig it. maybe you could make a note about the intended use in the valve doc? Er, one more. There is also the valve rectifier

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Lea Anthony
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 08:41, Steve Harris wrote: Its not that suprising, it seems to be one of the things that gives 303's there distinctive bite, and might play well with further waveshaping stages. Talking of 303s, how come Freebirth had to be pulled? I heard propellerheads threatened them

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Lea Anthony
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 01:12, Tim Goetze wrote: Lea Anthony wrote: Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! haven't heard it yet, no. if you happen to use it, it'd be very interesting to hear how much cpu load the different sub-modules generate. It's a windows app so I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:02:02 +0100, Lea Anthony wrote: Talking of 303s, how come Freebirth had to be pulled? I heard propellerheads threatened them as they had copied their layout. Which begs the question, why isn't Roland suing P/heads for copying the layout of the 303/808/909 I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:05:49 +0100, Lea Anthony wrote: Also, I must ask this, how much of the LAD stuff is designed with 32bit audio in mind? I ask because that's what I work in, then dither down to 16bit when mastering. My code it is all at least 32bit internally (much is 64bit) and all

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Lea Anthony
That's great news! For some reason I was thinking that most LAD stuff works in 44.1/16 which really isn't the best for professional audio. I only dither down when mastering to a CD. Hmm.. ok. Does anyone go up to 96Khz sampling? Just trying to get a feel what people see as acceptable etc.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:02:02 +0100, Lea Anthony wrote: Talking of 303s, how come Freebirth had to be pulled? I heard And it wasn't Freebirth (which is still going AFAIK) it was reborn. - Steve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:52:06 +0100, Lea Anthony wrote: Hmm.. ok. Does anyone go up to 96Khz sampling? A few people do, yes. It eats through ADAT and TDIF channels very quicly though. PS: I never use 96Khz but I'm sure there are plenty who would want to use LAD technology for DVD

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:01:03 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! seconded. i've heard amplitube and its amazing. if you have it, you can toss out every cabinet you've ever used except your favorite, just Hehe, thats what people said about bass

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Taybin Rutkin
On 24 Oct 2002, Lea Anthony wrote: That SUCKS big time. They want to use someone elses layout but then get pissy when someone uses theirs. Time to write an email :( Umm. You really should read the archives on this topic first. The discussion got rather out of hand and I'm pretty sure

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Lea Anthony
Sure. Where are they? -Lea. On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 12:00, Taybin Rutkin wrote: Umm. You really should read the archives on this topic first. The discussion got rather out of hand and I'm pretty sure all the bases were covered.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Goetze
Lea Anthony wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 01:12, Tim Goetze wrote: Lea Anthony wrote: Have you guys heard amplitube? Man, those sounds rock! haven't heard it yet, no. if you happen to use it, it'd be very interesting to hear how much cpu load the different sub-modules generate. It's a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Goetze
Steve Harris wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:50:29 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: ah, now i dig it. maybe you could make a note about the intended use in the valve doc? Yeah, I should probably do that. Documentation (well english in general!) is not my strong point. yeah, i guess we'd all be

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Stefan Kost
Hi, on the other hand we got buzz working (www.buzzmachines.com). Stefan Mark Knecht wrote: Taybin, So I may one day be able to run Acid Pro in wine and route audio to alsa? That would be just too cool for words! ;-) Mark Don't get your hopes up. I can't even get Sibelius to run in wine

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Goetze
me wrote: Steve Harris wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:02:51 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: 603k! ah well i needed a fresh set anyway, you changed the plate since .2.8, right? Yes, though it could still do with some work. I'm not sure what exactly, I've never played with a real plate. Its a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:27:04 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: i like the .2.8 version as it stands (though iirc you said it didn't do what you intended it to). I dont think it sounds quite right, but maybe im expecting it to be more like a synthetic plate reverb, than an actual metal plate.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:19:20 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: I'm 90% sure its from the crossover between the two halves of the class B amp (thats the power amp IIRC). drat. i wish i was better at understanding electronics. the amp guy pointed in this direction too. Did he give the impression

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread nikodimka
my feeling is that oversampling alone will not do, although you're probably right in that it will get rid of most of the aliasing. Its how most people tackle to problem. I think I can get the valve cheap enough that it will be practical. I'm not really familiar with what are the techniques

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Goetze
Steve Harris wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:19:20 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: I'm 90% sure its from the crossover between the two halves of the class B amp (thats the power amp IIRC). drat. i wish i was better at understanding electronics. the amp guy pointed in this direction too. Did he

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Goetze
nikodimka wrote: You can calculate your tranformation for the input signal S(x_i) once And the same transformation for S(x_i)+1 again. I mean two similar input signals differing in one bit of value. So when you have two output saignals you can calculate the error due to aliasing: abs( F(S(x_i))

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 06:27:59 -0700, nikodimka wrote: You can calculate your tranformation for the input signal S(x_i) once And the same transformation for S(x_i)+1 again. Won't that just give you the gradient at point x_i, ie. d/dt(S)? We are talking about frequency domain aliasing here,

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Mark Knecht
David, Actually, if I wanted to get my hopes up, I would have asked for Pro Tools running under wine. Now that would be quite an accomplishment... Being that I'm just a user type, I actually don't understand why this sort of thing doesn't actually work. PTLE has it's own hardware. No one

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 03:49:12 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: I doubt that the electronics ever produces hard square clips. don't the scope traces suggest they do? i'll try and record the circuit output from the fender, it has line-out and fx send. They dont look very square to me, there is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Davis
While I don't disagree with anything you say, I think you miss the point. People come into the studio with PT sessions from other places. They want to be able to continue to run them. Even if the hardware isn't that good (and PTLE hardware isn't, but it isn't that bad either) it's good enough

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Tom
I'm really late on this one, but I finally looked at the linked waveforms. Here is what I see. Ignoring push-pull crossover distortion, there are basically two kinds of distortion happening. There are two stages to the amplification, a pre-amp and an output amp. The pre-amp provides soft

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] helpfor a levelmeter]

2002-10-24 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Len wrote: If you will be making money from a Linux-based product, then you *should* be investing your own money for promotion. I am. What's your point? Other people (people who are not in business) need not and likely won't invest money to promote Linux Audio. People here invest their time

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Wave Editors

2002-10-24 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On 24 Oct 2002, Lea Anthony wrote: I'm trying to get a picture in my mind as to what is out there. Could someone please give me a list of Wave editors that are seen as potentially really good under Linux? snd, http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/snd/snd.html (superior) sweep,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] DJCJ Linux Audio Developers Tech Support database.

2002-10-24 Thread Patrick Shirkey
also, I didn't realize that the Company Name is necessary to get the web URL to show up. Fixed :) -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. For the discerning hardware connoisseur Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:31:04PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:23:32 -0700, Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: Looking at the scope traces from that guys site (which I will read later today), there is some fairly

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] helpfor a levelmeter]

2002-10-24 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Peter L Jones wrote: On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 17:42, Paul Winkler wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:14:52AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: I can't answer this properly, but there is some issue to with mmap mode I believe. It is a very small number of cards that dont

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Mark Knecht
Paul, While I don't disagree with anything you say, I think you miss the point. People come into the studio with PT sessions from other places. They want to be able to continue to run them. Even if the hardware isn't that good (and PTLE hardware isn't, but it isn't that bad either) it's good

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:32:22 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: I suspect this dip is some kind of reflection from the limit, but I can't tell without trying one. you mean you intend to change valve to have adjustable slope where it compresses? sounds good, if that is what you mean. Nope, that

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread nikodimka
You can calculate your tranformation for the input signal S(x_i) once And the same transformation for S(x_i)+1 again. Won't that just give you the gradient at point x_i, ie. d/dt(S)? yes. We are talking about frequency domain aliasing here, oh yeah i see. sorry. which is when you generate

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Davis
Actually, if I wanted to get my hopes up, I would have asked for Pro Tools running under wine. Now that would be quite an accomplishment... Being that I'm just a user type, I actually don't understand why this sort of thing doesn't actually work. because the windows API that ProTools is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Audio Programming

2002-10-24 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On 19 Oct 2002, Lea Anthony wrote: Hi, I am a musician and also a programmer. I have many years experience of coding but not in the audio field. Any tuts around? How do I get into it? You can start by helping me finish the linux-port of my Radium music editor,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Ardour

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 06:49:40PM +0100, Lea Anthony wrote: Does it have a built in Wave editor? No. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!

[linux-audio-dev] Ardour

2002-10-24 Thread Lea Anthony
Does it have a built in Wave editor? I can't see anything in the features list or FAQ. -Lea.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:23:32 -0700, Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: Looking at the scope traces from that guys site (which I will read later today), there is some fairly serious HP filtering going on sometime after one of the amp stages.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ann] unmatched - a LADSPA amp tone

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: Looking at the scope traces from that guys site (which I will read later today), there is some fairly serious HP filtering going on sometime after one of the amp stages. Output transformer? Certainly they don't have infinite

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Ariel Salomon
Well, there is the ProTools/FREE version On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly , but to install PTLE you must have PTLE hardware in the system. (At least using the default Windows installer from DigiDesign.) If you're talking about some other method of installing, then I think

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Davis
Possibly , but to install PTLE you must have PTLE hardware in the system. (At least using the default Windows installer from DigiDesign.) If you're talking about some other method of installing, then I think you're just pulling my leg back. ;-) no, i meant that you don't need PT at all to run a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

2002-10-24 Thread Peter L Jones
On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 18:32, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Peter L Jones wrote: [snip] I don't want to have to learn about DSPs and stuff to be able to identify a _good_ sound card. I've currently got a shortlist for my next machine: * MidiMan Delta Audiophile 2496

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Music N style sw w/ JACK-support (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev]Re: image problem)

2002-10-24 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Reiner wrote: - there's patch for PD that provides JACK-support - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1169519 Actually, this is no longer current. Check the pd list archive for newer approaches to pd jackification. Personally, I now use Günther Geiger's patch applied to pd

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Wave Editors

2002-10-24 Thread David Gerard Matthews
I just spent several hours last night comparing three different editors. Basically, all of them have something to recommend, and I plan on keeping all of them on my system. The skinny: Snd: My old favorite. Easy to use, keeps getting better, but a bit ugly still. Nonetheless, I know how to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX pluginson Linux in real time

2002-10-24 Thread David Gerard Matthews
Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly , but to install PTLE you must have PTLE hardware in the system. Not true. I have ProTools Free installed on a Windows box with no digi h/w whatsoever. PT Free can import files from other versions of PT. -dgm (At least using the default Windows installer from

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Wave Editors

2002-10-24 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:38:52 -0400 David Gerard Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweep: Loads of fun, fast, pretty, nice use of LADSPA plugins. Still no way to record directly into the program from an external source. Yes there is. The little red icon/button in the bottom left corner of

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Wave Editors

2002-10-24 Thread David Gerard Matthews
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:38:52 -0400 David Gerard Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweep: Loads of fun, fast, pretty, nice use of LADSPA plugins. Still no way to record directly into the program from an external source. Yes there is. The little red icon/button

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Wave Editors

2002-10-24 Thread Davy Durham
Well, I don't know why I haven't announced it here yet, but... I'm the author of ReZound http://rezound.sourceforge.net check it out... -- Davy Lea Anthony wrote: I'm trying to get a picture in my mind as to what is out there. Could someone please give me a list of Wave editors that are