Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-10-16 Thread Son of Zev
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:51, Fred Gleason wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Son of Zev wrote: At this stage I am unaware of any precedent to this kind of claim. The claim against mp3/p2p software was an issue of music copyright and the illegal distribution of it - however no one ever sued anyone

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-10-15 Thread Son of Zev
Hi All Hey I know this is a rather late comment - but I read everyone elses contribution and I feel I should add. At this stage I am unaware of any precedent to this kind of claim. The claim against mp3/p2p software was an issue of music copyright and the illegal distribution of it -

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-10-15 Thread Paul Davis
can't see that in the terms. (and a personal request to make it truly viable for both audio and video put SMPTE/MMC sync functionality on to it... so it can lock to external video and audio devices correctly - I know Paul - wordclock would be paramount too) FYI: wordclock is a h/w issue.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-10-15 Thread Fred Gleason
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Son of Zev wrote: At this stage I am unaware of any precedent to this kind of claim. The claim against mp3/p2p software was an issue of music copyright and the illegal distribution of it - however no one ever sued anyone for making a recordable tape deck or video

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Sander van Zoest wrote: I am not sure what to do about it, but I am not surprised and I hope there is something we can do to fight this and get our rights back. Go for the criminal prosecution angle. There is a pretty clear case of price fixing among the distributors and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Hremeviuc
Hi all, This is truly sad. This has been one of my favourite pieces of Linux audio software. I guess their are many possibilities for this latest development. I think the fact that Broadcast was always on the edge of the open source thing ( b2000 that is ), I always thought that something would

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread brian redfern
That's why the ogg-vorbis group created a non-profit, to make themselves into a legal charity entity. Same thing with the freesoftware foundation, I guess beyond that we can all move to moscow! --- Sander van Zoest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Dave Phillips wrote: See the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Matthias Weiss
There's still the download page at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13554 matthias On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:02:39PM -0700, brian redfern wrote: It should help the sales of the new nostarch press book on bcast. I have a copy of the last released source, I've got a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Matthias Weiss
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 08:31:21PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: it also strikes me as mostly bullshit, though i'd want to speak to a lawyer before concluding that completely. GPL'ed software is almost universally made available with no warranty. as a post on slashdot points out, Microsoft could

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Matthias Weiss
We are in hard times right now and it almost at a point where I agree with the Broadcast 2000 folks that maybe pulling out and avoiding being taken advantage of until we find a way to fight for our rights is a sad, but potential way I have to go. Any ideas? If artists avoid to get

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Carl Joachim Berdal Haga
Brian, are you planning to maintain the current bcast2000 code, or start something new? There are a few patches on http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/heroines, some of them contributed by myself, and I'm working on some other improvements as well. If you (or others) decide to maintain the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread WLC
Matthias Weiss wrote: There's still the download page at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13554 matthias Appears to be gone from there! -- Wendell Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://anncrman.com Show me the country in which there are no strikes and I'll

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread Matthias Weiss
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:42:10PM +0200, Nicolas Noble wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Matthias Weiss wrote: There's still the download page at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13554 Wrong... What's still downloadable are the 'around' librairies and tools. The

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread David Gerard Matthews Jr.
Is anyone planning on picking this up? I'd do it myself if I had a) time and b) better coding skills. BC2K is/was a fine piece of work. Ruben Merz wrote: Well, that's really sad. Let's hope that some people may go on with the previous GPL code... RUben Greetings: See the short

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-11 Thread David Gerard Matthews Jr.
If artists avoid to get contracts with this media industry, this industry will eventually be useless. We made them as powerful as they are today, only we can take away their power again. If artists and consumers are happy (as it seems today) I see no way out except for some niches.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread Ruben Merz
Well, that's really sad. Let's hope that some people may go on with the previous GPL code... RUben Greetings: See the short story on Slashdot, or get the scoop (such as it is) at the BC2K Web site. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/10/2016257mode=thread

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread brian redfern
I second that, maybe it could be forked off as a part of the oggvorbis project, as they have created a foundation to protect themselves from liabilities. Apparently heroine virtual was actually getting hit with some real suit or suits, so it wasn't just a theoretical threat, I perhaps this is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread Paul Davis
Well, that's really sad. Let's hope that some people may go on with the previous GPL code... it also strikes me as mostly bullshit, though i'd want to speak to a lawyer before concluding that completely. GPL'ed software is almost universally made available with no warranty. as a post on slashdot

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread ljp
At 16:58 9/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: I second that, maybe it could be forked off as a part of the oggvorbis project, as they have created a foundation to protect themselves from liabilities. Apparently heroine virtual was actually getting hit with some real suit or suits, so it wasn't just a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread D. Stimits
Paul Davis wrote: Well, that's really sad. Let's hope that some people may go on with the previous GPL code... it also strikes me as mostly bullshit, though i'd want to speak to a lawyer before concluding that completely. GPL'ed software is almost universally made available with no

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Sad indeed, and (yet) another reason that the expansion of ``intellectual property'' laws over the past decade or so is so counterproductive. Worst is that the RIAA has demonstrated themselves to be such total, clueless idiots in the matter. In their fear of having a few copies pirated, they're

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Baugher
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, ljp wrote: At 16:58 9/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: This goes with the current state of the USA and the suit happy atmosphere here, and people not taking responsibility for themselves and their actions anymore. Personally I think it might have to do with this

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread brian redfern
Its most likely his employer (pioneer) told him to stop coding or they'd fire or sue him. --- D. Stimits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Davis wrote: Well, that's really sad. Let's hope that some people may go on with the previous GPL code... it also strikes me as mostly bullshit,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Broadcast 2000 removed from public access

2001-09-10 Thread brian redfern
It should help the sales of the new nostarch press book on bcast. I have a copy of the last released source, I've got a download spot for those who want a copy, just email me back. Personally I'm going to study the code and use it to teach myself c/c++, as its very optimized and stable. Then I