Re: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-18 Thread Joshua Haberman
Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats very true. my position is very, very simple: OSS was a *HUGE* and monstrous mistake. in the guise of using The Unix Way (TM) for an audio API, it has saddled us with dozens of (mostly toy) applications that use a design model/architecture that is not

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-18 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 03:03:03 -0700, Joshua Haberman wrote: Let me take a step back and ask a question that has plagued me for a while: what *is* the Unix way to solve new problems in new domains? FWIW I think Paul was overstating the case. Its true that open/read/write is not viable for low

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-17 Thread STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Ivica Bukvic [mailto:ico;fuse.net] ... introduces a problem of porting apps into its API, and that again poses the same problem of excluding a lot of older audio apps that ... this might be solved by user space device drivers - they do not want the mixer

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-17 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 06:05:57PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: thats very true. my position is very, very simple: OSS was a *HUGE* and monstrous mistake. in the guise of using The Unix Way (TM) for an audio API, it has saddled us with dozens of (mostly toy) applications that use a design

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-16 Thread Paul Davis
There should be just a simple sound daemon running 24/7, constantly reading from the /dev/dsp inputs and writing into the outputs with a small circular buffer that keeps on recycling itself (i.e. 64 bytes to allow for low-latency work if needed). Then, when an app that does not sigh. i thought

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Quick and efficient sound daemon idea -- why not do it this way?

2002-10-16 Thread Ivica Bukvic
First off, thanks for the reply... i don't understand why you keep asking about this when esd exists and when abramo has already written the mix plugin for alsa-lib? if you don't like the qualities of esd, why not take that up on the development list for esd? Because esd is dead (or just