Re: [linux-audio-dev] Sweep 0.5.0 -- Scrubby's surprise

2002-08-14 Thread Conrad Parker
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:53:11AM +0200, Robert Jonsson wrote: Great stuff! thanks, and to everyone who's been involved so far, and to the rest of you who will contribute soon ;-) More information is available at: http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/ Thanks to Pixar

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-14 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:25:45PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: (cut) Ok, I grasp your intent, its a good idea. Letting a DSP idle is not the best idea, so if you can use it for specific computations, that would be nice. Could you tell me exactly what you would do with this board and how that

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Reborn

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Hanappe
Steve Harris wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:23:28 +0200, günter geiger wrote: Actually I think for output only applications you could get off without a redesign. Just write your data to a buffer and wait until the process() fetches it. This will introduce a buffer copy, but the overhead is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Reborn

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Davis
If I understand Paul Davis' arguments correctly, the main motivation for the Jack design instead of the read/write approach is improved latency. well, its not really that by itself. r/w-designs can do just as well. the real goal is sample synchronous execution *with* low latency. if you allow

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Anders Torger
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 14.21, you wrote: If I understand Paul Davis' arguments correctly, the main motivation for the Jack design instead of the read/write approach is improved latency. well, its not really that by itself. r/w-designs can do just as well. the real goal is sample

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Davis
sync. this is a natural consequence to using a push model (i'm the client, and i'll work when and for as long as i choose) as opposed to a pull model (hey client: do this much work right now). How does the pull model work with block-based algorithms that cannot provide any output until it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Anders Torger
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 15.23, you wrote: sync. this is a natural consequence to using a push model (i'm the client, and i'll work when and for as long as i choose) as opposed to a pull model (hey client: do this much work right now). How does the pull model work with block-based

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Martijn Sipkema
How does the pull model work with block-based algorithms that cannot provide any output until it has read a block on the input, and thus inherently has a lower bound on delay? I'm considering a redesign of I/O handling in BruteFIR to add Jack support (I/O is currently select()-based), but

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:13:12 +0200, Anders Torger wrote: I'm considering a redesign of I/O handling in BruteFIR to add Jack support (I/O is currently select()-based), but since it is processes in blocks, perhaps it is not feasible? It makes it trickier. If the jack period size is giong

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Reborn

2002-08-14 Thread Bob Ham
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 13:21, Paul Davis wrote: a pull model (hey client: do this much work right now). Should the this much work be constant? Ie, should I be dealing with midi events (of which there may or may be some) inside or outside the process callback? Bob -- Bob Ham: [EMAIL

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Reborn

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 13:21, Paul Davis wrote: a pull model (hey client: do this much work right now). Should the this much work be constant? Ie, should I be dealing with midi events (of which there may or may be some) inside or outside the process callback? the process() callback is the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Anders Torger
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 15.51, you wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:13:12 +0200, Anders Torger wrote: I'm considering a redesign of I/O handling in BruteFIR to add Jack support (I/O is currently select()-based), but since it is processes in blocks, perhaps it is not feasible? It

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Jack and block-based algorithms (was: Reborn)

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 15.51, you wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:13:12 +0200, Anders Torger wrote: I'm considering a redesign of I/O handling in BruteFIR to add Jack support (I/O is currently select()-based), but since it is processes in blocks, perhaps it is not feasible? It

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Reborn

2002-08-14 Thread mawali
Maybe we should invite the author for this discussion. He probably would be interested in finding out what other linux audio guys think about the product. On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Steve Harris wrote: That was my thought too. As we have seen before, when software is designed with OSS in mind it

[linux-audio-dev] Alas, reborn is no more?

2002-08-14 Thread mawali
Hi I jsut went to finally give it a try, and found out there is no more reborn, it has been shut down. I wish I hade downloaded when I hade the time FT

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Alas, reborn is no more?

2002-08-14 Thread Will Benton
This smells funny. Unfortunately, because the UI is infringing, I can't distribute the source. There are so many ways around that that it's not funny, starting with the most basic -- removing the reborn.rma file from the distribution. I don't want to question this fellow's motives --