Re: Cloning a Btrfs partition

2011-12-07 Thread Freddie Cash
can't mount both arrays...). Any suggestions? Until an analog of zfs send is added to btrfs (and I believe there are some side projects ongoing to add something similar), your only option is the one you are currently using via rsync. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list

Re: btrfs subvolume snapshot syntax too smart

2011-04-04 Thread Freddie Cash
other apps work with/without a trailing /. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: efficiency of btrfs cow

2011-03-06 Thread Freddie Cash
be a win on Btrfs. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: btrfs wishlist

2011-03-01 Thread Freddie Cash
separation of the different layers (device, pool, filesystem), and better tools for working with them (zpool / zfs) but similar functionality is (or at least appears to be) in btrfs already. Using device mapper / md underneath btrfs also gives you a similar setup to ZFS. -- Freddie Cash fjwc

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-24 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Hugo Mills hugo-l...@carfax.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:28:19AM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote: So, is Btrfs pooled storage or not?  Do you throw 24 disks into a single Btrfs filesystem, and then split that up into separate sub-volumes as needed

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-21 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Hugo Mills hugo-l...@carfax.org.uk wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 09:59:46AM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote: Let see if I can match up the terminology and layers a bit: LVM Physical Volume == Btrfs disk == ZFS disk / vdevs LVM Volume Group == Btrfs filesystem

Re: Backup Command

2011-01-21 Thread Freddie Cash
mythtv using the init script for it. Then would do whatever you need to do to the database (stop it, dump it, whatever). The start argument would do the reverse, starting the database and MythTV. And, /path/to/your/rsync/script would call your actual backups script that runs rsync. -- Freddie Cash

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-09 Thread Freddie Cash
. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: Various Questions

2011-01-08 Thread Freddie Cash
/disk are they different? -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: Various Questions

2011-01-07 Thread Freddie Cash
rsync - ssh to remote system run script to start DBs, delete snapshot, whatever You're starting to over-think things. Keep it simple, don't worry about defaults, specify everything you want to do, and do it all from the backups box. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
and then using cron to schedule it completes the setup. Works beautifully. :) Saved our bacon several times over the past 2 years. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
. If restoring the binary files doesn't work, then we just suck in the text dumps. If the remote system supports snapshots, doing a snapshot before the rsync runs is a good idea, though. It'll be nice when more filesystems support in-line snapshots. The LVM method is pure crap. -- Freddie Cash fjwc

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:07 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Marcin Kuk marcin@gmail.com wrote: Rsync is good, but not for all cases. Be aware of databases files - you

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
(it's hard to use non-pooled storage now), a working fsck (or similar), and integration into Debian, then we may look at that as well. :) -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Carl Cook cac...@quantum-sci.com wrote: On Thu 06 January 2011 11:16:49 Freddie Cash wrote: Also with this system, I'm concerned that if there is corruption on the HTPC, it could be propagated to the backup server.  Is there some way to address

Re: Synching a Backup Server

2011-01-06 Thread Freddie Cash
. It can be used via the mysql command to recreate the database at a later date. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo

Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs

2011-01-05 Thread Freddie Cash
or 12x, something like that). Now we're just waiting for ZFSv22+ to hit FreeBSD to enable dedupe on the backups server. For backups, and central storage for VMs, online dedupe is a massive win. Offline, maybe. Either way, dedupe is worthwhile. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com

Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs

2011-01-05 Thread Freddie Cash
.  Thanks, Cyrus IMAP and Zimbra (probably a lot of others) already do that, hard-linking identical message bodies. The e-mail server use-case is for dedupe is pretty much covered already. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs

Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs

2011-01-05 Thread Freddie Cash
to worry about). And the you can use all the fancy snapshotting, cloning, etc features of whatever FS as well. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http

Re: Appending data to the middle of a file using btrfs-specific features

2010-12-06 Thread Freddie Cash
the --no-whole-file option which causes rsync to only send delta changes for existing files, another useful feature with CoW filesystems. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More

Re: Appending data to the middle of a file using btrfs-specific features

2010-12-06 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbheek.chau...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbheek.chau...@gmail.com wrote: As an aside, my primary motivation

Re: What to do about subvolumes?

2010-12-01 Thread Freddie Cash
or something) to show the actual storage used and file sizes as stored on disk. Trying to make quotas and disk usage utilities to work based on what's physically on disk is just backwards, imo. And prone to a lot of confusion. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list

Re: What to do about subvolumes?

2010-12-01 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Hugo Mills hugo-l...@carfax.org.uk wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 12:24:28PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Hugo Mills hugo-l...@carfax.org.uk wrote:  The idea is you are only charged for what blocks you have on the disk.  Thanks

Re: Blog: BTRFS is effectively stable

2010-10-30 Thread Freddie Cash
succession. No dd the raw device underneath the filesystem while doing file I/O tests were done. No recovery tests were done. IOW, you can't really say it's stable across the board like that. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux

Re: Francis Galiegue would like your help testing a survey

2010-09-28 Thread Freddie Cash
on the site :/ Perhaps add a separate choice (Do not currently use btrfs) to each question after number 6? That way, non-users like me can just breeze through the rest of the survey, but you still get the information from us for the first half of the survey. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com

Re: btrfs user survey?

2010-09-27 Thread Freddie Cash
) or SurveyGizmo (http://www.surveygizmo.com) or similar would be better, as it does all the reporting for you, builds the nice survey interface with checkboxes, radio buttons, text fields, etc. And they're still free (as in beer). -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: remote mirroring in the works?

2010-08-30 Thread Freddie Cash
in the future. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: Is there a more aggressive fixer than btrfsck?

2010-06-29 Thread Freddie Cash
data. But you will never have a corrupted filesystem. Not sure how things work for btrfs. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org