Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-07-02 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/2/07, Sascha Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thursday 28 June 2007 23:20, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 6/28/07, Sascha Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:05, Markus Rechberger wrote: Hi, since I officially take care about the latest

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-07-01 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/30/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: timecop wrote: Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats. Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than the broken crap

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-30 Thread Manu Abraham
CityK wrote: Oliver Endriss wrote: timecop wrote: Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats. Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than the broken crap currently in linux-dvb,

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Thursday 28 June 2007 22:35, Sascha Sommer wrote: Hi, On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:05, Markus Rechberger wrote: Hi, since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Well it's solved now, whatever driver will come up in future from my side I will not submit it to the linuxtv project due the experience I made during the last 1 1/2 years. You did a good job with em28xx, but when you tried to force people to

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007, Hans Verkuil wrote: I've been following this whole process for quite some time now and also tried to help out. I've come to the conclusion that it is purely due to bad chemistry between various personalities. Technically this stuff should have been merged a year ago

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 6/28/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general, it is a good idea to have the manufacturer supporting their drivers. However, it won't make any sense to allow Empiatech to touch on low-level drivers for hardware not

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/29/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 6/28/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general, it is a good idea to have the manufacturer supporting their drivers. However, it won't make any sense to allow

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/29/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007, Hans Verkuil wrote: I've been following this whole process for quite some time now and also tried to help out. I've come to the conclusion that it is purely due to bad chemistry between various personalities.

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread timecop
Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats. Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than the broken crap currently in linux-dvb, and YOU don't. Users (what little of them Linux still has)

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Oliver Endriss
timecop wrote: Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats. Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than the broken crap currently in linux-dvb, and YOU don't. Users (what little of

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread CityK
Oliver Endriss wrote: timecop wrote: Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats. Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than the broken crap currently in linux-dvb, and YOU don't.

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread timecop
Hi Oliver, Just in case you're not already aware, timecop/dongs/gnaa is a professional troll. Unfortunately, he's latched onto the project -- he's building some ISDN usb devices and stealing code for them. Also That would be ISDB-T, not ISDN sir. And I don't want to be accused of stealing

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread Oliver Endriss
CityK wrote: In any regard, its best to just ignore him. He's just trying to get a rise out of folks here. Probably you are right. And I will not participate in any flame wars. If someone is really interested to know what happened, he will hopefully read all relevant messages and draw his own

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-28 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/26/07, Roger Depreeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Hi, since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver. Since the few

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-28 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Hi Sascha, Can someone please summarize these flamewars and especially the remaining problems? Please, allow me to give my personal view about this. Markus tried hardly to force me to commit his big patch as-is, even with the risk of eventually breaking other other dvb drivers (In fact, it

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-28 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/28/07, Sascha Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:05, Markus Rechberger wrote: Hi, since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-28 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 6/28/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sascha, Can someone please summarize these flamewars and especially the remaining problems? Please, allow me to give my personal view about this. Markus tried hardly to force me to commit his big patch as-is, even with the

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-28 Thread hermann pitton
Am Donnerstag, den 28.06.2007, 23:28 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger: On 6/28/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sascha, Can someone please summarize these flamewars and especially the remaining problems? Please, allow me to give my personal view about this.

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-19 Thread Mario Rossi
since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver. Since the few developers here who cannot just shut their mouth and accept others work I don't see another way

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-19 Thread Mario Rossi
Previous was corrupted. since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver. Since the few developers here who cannot just shut their mouth and accept others

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-19 Thread Mario Rossi
Previous 2 mails were corrupted. since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver. Since the few developers here who cannot just shut their mouth and accept

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-19 Thread Mario Rossi
Sorry, I will removed the quoted message, the message keeps arriving corrupted. From a user's point of view, the 2 projects (em28xx and linuxtv.org) have a huge overlapping and common code. If I wanted to use them both, would I run into a nightmare, or is it going to be easy? Will em28xx still be

Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-15 Thread timecop
I wholeheartedly welcome our new EM28XX overlords.. erm I mean, I totally support this decision if it results in better hardware support. Regards, tc since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some

[linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-14 Thread Markus Rechberger
Hi, since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want to get that project removed from linuxtv.org. Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver. Since the few developers here who cannot just shut their mouth and accept others work I don't see