Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-09-25 Thread MOULLE, ALAIN
Hi
You're right Andrew, this works fine with such a simplified configuration ... 
human error 
Sorry
Alain

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Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources  constraints 
(pacemaker on RHE7.1)

> On 2 Sep 2015, at 9:42 pm, MOULLE, ALAIN <alain.mou...@atos.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> in fact, my real problem was simplier like this one described as a simplified 
> example of my configuration :
> (I'm working with pacemaker from RHEL7.1 GA (1.1.12-22) )
>
> Let's say for the example that we have in a two-nodes configuration these 5 
> resources :
> 1 resource VGA (ocf:heartbeat:LVM)
> 1 resource fs-img-for-vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
> 1 resource vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
> 1 resource  fs-img-for-vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
> 1 resource vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
> knowing that both fs-img are on LVs in VGA
>
> So I have to set these constraints :
> prefered location VGA on node1
> order fs-img-vm1 after VGA
> order fs-img-vm2 after VGA
> order vm1 after fs-img-vm1
> order vm2 after fs-img-vm2
> colocation fs-img-vm1 with VGA
> colocation fs-img-vm2 with VGA
> colocation vm1 with fs-img-vm1
> colocation vm2 with fs-img-vm2
>
> but I unfornutately, I want that the vm2 (and fs-img-vm2) never starts on 
> node2, said in another way : I want that if VGA is on node1 all resources 
> fs-img-vm1, fs-img-vm2, vm1 and vm2 must be started on node1,
> but if VGA for whatever reason has been migrated on node2, I want that only 
> resources VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 are started on node2, both others 
> fs-img-vm2 and vm2 remainig "Stopped"
>
> So I add the constraint location fs-img-vm2 avoids node2 (hence +INF)
>
> But testing this configuration, none of the 5 resources can never start on 
> vm2.

You mean “node2” here right?

>
> In my understanding, due to my choice of setting colocation that way : fs 
> with VGA , and vm with fs, I was thinking that pacemaker, when migrating on 
> node2, could start VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 on node2 and leave fs-img-vm2 and 
> vm2 "Stopped".
>
> Am I wrong ?
> And is there a way to get this behavior ?

Should be, attach your cib?

>
> Thanks a lot
> Alain
>
> 
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> (pacemaker on RHE7.1)
>
>> On 25 Aug 2015, at 6:18 pm, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "MOULLE, ALAIN" <alain.mou...@atos.net> schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
>> Nachricht
>> <df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net
>>
>> :
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these
>>
>>> resources:
>>>
>>> Res1
>>> Res2
>>> Res3
>>> Res4
>>> Res5
>>>
>>> with current colocation constraints :
>>> Res2 with Res1
>>> Res3 with Res2
>>
>> I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints;
>
> ?
>
>> can you
>> try
>> R2 with R1
>> R3 with R1
>> (and related) instead?
>
> No no no.
> This has the opposite effect, a failure of R3 could easily result in /none/ 
> of the resources moving.
>
> Better to just change:
>
>>> Res4 with Res1
>
> to:
>   Res4 with Res3
>
> Newer versions might do better with the existing config too.
> If not, attach a crm_report :)
>
>>> Res5 with Res4
>>>
>>> and current order symmetrical constraints :
>>> Res2 after Res1
>>> Res3 after Res2
>>>
>>> Res4 after Res1
>>> Res5 after Res4
>>>
>>> and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .
>>>
>>> What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the
>>
>>> 5 Ressources are migrated.
>>>
>>> Is there a solution ?
>>>
>>> For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :
>>>
>>> Res1=VGA
>>> Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
>>

Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-09-13 Thread Andrew Beekhof

> On 2 Sep 2015, at 9:42 pm, MOULLE, ALAIN <alain.mou...@atos.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew
> 
> in fact, my real problem was simplier like this one described as a simplified 
> example of my configuration :
> (I'm working with pacemaker from RHEL7.1 GA (1.1.12-22) )
> 
> Let's say for the example that we have in a two-nodes configuration these 5 
> resources :
> 1 resource VGA (ocf:heartbeat:LVM) 
> 1 resource fs-img-for-vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
> 1 resource vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
> 1 resource  fs-img-for-vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
> 1 resource vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
> knowing that both fs-img are on LVs in VGA
> 
> So I have to set these constraints :
> prefered location VGA on node1
> order fs-img-vm1 after VGA
> order fs-img-vm2 after VGA
> order vm1 after fs-img-vm1
> order vm2 after fs-img-vm2
> colocation fs-img-vm1 with VGA
> colocation fs-img-vm2 with VGA
> colocation vm1 with fs-img-vm1
> colocation vm2 with fs-img-vm2
> 
> but I unfornutately, I want that the vm2 (and fs-img-vm2) never starts on 
> node2, said in another way : I want that if VGA is on node1 all resources 
> fs-img-vm1, fs-img-vm2, vm1 and vm2 must be started on node1,
> but if VGA for whatever reason has been migrated on node2, I want that only 
> resources VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 are started on node2, both others 
> fs-img-vm2 and vm2 remainig "Stopped"
> 
> So I add the constraint location fs-img-vm2 avoids node2 (hence +INF)
> 
> But testing this configuration, none of the 5 resources can never start on 
> vm2. 

You mean “node2” here right?

> 
> In my understanding, due to my choice of setting colocation that way : fs 
> with VGA , and vm with fs, I was thinking that pacemaker, when migrating on 
> node2, could start VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 on node2 and leave fs-img-vm2 and 
> vm2 "Stopped". 
> 
> Am I wrong ? 
> And is there a way to get this behavior ?

Should be, attach your cib?

> 
> Thanks a lot
> Alain
> 
> 
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> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints  
> (pacemaker on RHE7.1)
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2015, at 6:18 pm, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> "MOULLE, ALAIN" <alain.mou...@atos.net> schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
>> Nachricht
>> <df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net
>> 
>> :
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these
>> 
>>> resources:
>>> 
>>> Res1
>>> Res2
>>> Res3
>>> Res4
>>> Res5
>>> 
>>> with current colocation constraints :
>>> Res2 with Res1
>>> Res3 with Res2
>> 
>> I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints;
> 
> ?
> 
>> can you
>> try
>> R2 with R1
>> R3 with R1
>> (and related) instead?
> 
> No no no.
> This has the opposite effect, a failure of R3 could easily result in /none/ 
> of the resources moving.
> 
> Better to just change:
> 
>>> Res4 with Res1
> 
> to:
>   Res4 with Res3
> 
> Newer versions might do better with the existing config too.
> If not, attach a crm_report :)
> 
>>> Res5 with Res4
>>> 
>>> and current order symmetrical constraints :
>>> Res2 after Res1
>>> Res3 after Res2
>>> 
>>> Res4 after Res1
>>> Res5 after Res4
>>> 
>>> and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .
>>> 
>>> What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the
>> 
>>> 5 Ressources are migrated.
>>> 
>>> Is there a solution ?
>>> 
>>> For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :
>>> 
>>> Res1=VGA
>>> Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
>> LV)
>>> Res3=VM1
>>> Res4=FS-img-VM2 (where are the VM2 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on another
>> VGA
>>> LV)
>>> Res5=VM2
>>> 
>>> So current constraints are so that VGA is activated before the FS-img is
>>> mounted and before the VM is started.
>>> 
>>> But I want that if the VM1 fails, it can migrate on another node (toge

Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-09-07 Thread MOULLE, ALAIN
Hi Andrew

in fact, my real problem was simplier like this one described as a simplified 
example of my configuration :
(I'm working with pacemaker from RHEL7.1 GA (1.1.12-22) )

Let's say for the example that we have in a two-nodes configuration these 5 
resources :
1 resource VGA (ocf:heartbeat:LVM) 
1 resource fs-img-for-vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
1 resource vm1 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
1 resource  fs-img-for-vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:Filesystem)
1 resource vm2 (ocf:heartbeat:VirtualDomain)
knowing that both fs-img are on LVs in VGA

So I have to set these constraints :
prefered location VGA on node1
order fs-img-vm1 after VGA
order fs-img-vm2 after VGA
order vm1 after fs-img-vm1
order vm2 after fs-img-vm2
colocation fs-img-vm1 with VGA
colocation fs-img-vm2 with VGA
colocation vm1 with fs-img-vm1
colocation vm2 with fs-img-vm2

but I unfornutately, I want that the vm2 (and fs-img-vm2) never starts on 
node2, said in another way : I want that if VGA is on node1 all resources 
fs-img-vm1, fs-img-vm2, vm1 and vm2 must be started on node1,
but if VGA for whatever reason has been migrated on node2, I want that only 
resources VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 are started on node2, both others fs-img-vm2 
and vm2 remainig "Stopped"

So I add the constraint location fs-img-vm2 avoids node2 (hence +INF)

But testing this configuration, none of the 5 resources can never start on vm2. 

In my understanding, due to my choice of setting colocation that way : fs with 
VGA , and vm with fs, I was thinking that pacemaker, when migrating on node2, 
could start VGA, fs-img-vm1 and vm1 on node2 and leave fs-img-vm2 and vm2 
"Stopped". 

Am I wrong ? 
And is there a way to get this behavior ?

Thanks a lot
Alain


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(pacemaker on RHE7.1)

> On 25 Aug 2015, at 6:18 pm, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 
> wrote:
>
>>>> "MOULLE, ALAIN" <alain.mou...@atos.net> schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
> Nachricht
> <df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net
>
> :
>> Hi
>>
>> I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these
>
>> resources:
>>
>> Res1
>> Res2
>> Res3
>> Res4
>> Res5
>>
>> with current colocation constraints :
>> Res2 with Res1
>> Res3 with Res2
>
> I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints;

?

> can you
> try
> R2 with R1
> R3 with R1
> (and related) instead?

No no no.
This has the opposite effect, a failure of R3 could easily result in /none/ of 
the resources moving.

Better to just change:

>> Res4 with Res1

to:
   Res4 with Res3

Newer versions might do better with the existing config too.
If not, attach a crm_report :)

>> Res5 with Res4
>>
>> and current order symmetrical constraints :
>> Res2 after Res1
>> Res3 after Res2
>>
>> Res4 after Res1
>> Res5 after Res4
>>
>> and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .
>>
>> What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the
>
>> 5 Ressources are migrated.
>>
>> Is there a solution ?
>>
>> For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :
>>
>> Res1=VGA
>> Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
> LV)
>> Res3=VM1
>> Res4=FS-img-VM2 (where are the VM2 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on another
> VGA
>> LV)
>> Res5=VM2
>>
>> So current constraints are so that VGA is activated before the FS-img is
>> mounted and before the VM is started.
>>
>> But I want that if the VM1 fails, it can migrate on another node (together
>> with all other 4 resources) but with only the constraints above, the VGA
>> stalls the migration of the VM ...
>>
>> Is there any solution by constraints configuration ?
>> Note : we can't use group resources for now, because VMs are remote-nodes.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Alain Moullé
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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-08-27 Thread Andrew Beekhof

 On 25 Aug 2015, at 6:18 pm, Ulrich Windl ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de 
 wrote:
 
 MOULLE, ALAIN alain.mou...@atos.net schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
 Nachricht
 df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net
 
 :
 Hi
 
 I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these
 
 resources:
 
 Res1
 Res2
 Res3
 Res4
 Res5
 
 with current colocation constraints :
 Res2 with Res1
 Res3 with Res2
 
 I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints;

?

 can you
 try
 R2 with R1
 R3 with R1
 (and related) instead?

No no no.
This has the opposite effect, a failure of R3 could easily result in /none/ of 
the resources moving.

Better to just change: 

 Res4 with Res1

to:
   Res4 with Res3

Newer versions might do better with the existing config too.
If not, attach a crm_report :)

 Res5 with Res4
 
 and current order symmetrical constraints :
 Res2 after Res1
 Res3 after Res2
 
 Res4 after Res1
 Res5 after Res4
 
 and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .
 
 What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the
 
 5 Ressources are migrated.
 
 Is there a solution ?
 
 For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :
 
 Res1=VGA
 Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
 LV)
 Res3=VM1
 Res4=FS-img-VM2 (where are the VM2 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on another
 VGA 
 LV)
 Res5=VM2
 
 So current constraints are so that VGA is activated before the FS-img is 
 mounted and before the VM is started.
 
 But I want that if the VM1 fails, it can migrate on another node (together 
 with all other 4 resources) but with only the constraints above, the VGA 
 stalls the migration of the VM ...
 
 Is there any solution by constraints configuration ?
 Note : we can't use group resources for now, because VMs are remote-nodes.
 
 Thanks
 Alain Moullé
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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-08-27 Thread MOULLE, ALAIN
Hi 

Thanks, I just tried :
colocation fs-img with vg
colocation vm with vg

but the problem remains : 
if the vm fails, it is not migrated despite the migration-threshold=1, as the 
vg remains Started locally and has no problem.
In fact, I would need a parameter to force the vg to move in case of vm or 
fs-img failure, but I think it is not possible for now ...

Alain

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Objet : [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on 
RHE7.1)

 MOULLE, ALAIN alain.mou...@atos.net schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
Nachricht
df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net

:
 Hi

 I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these

 resources:

 Res1
 Res2
 Res3
 Res4
 Res5

 with current colocation constraints :
 Res2 with Res1
 Res3 with Res2

I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints; can you
try
R2 with R1
R3 with R1
(and related) instead?


 Res4 with Res1
 Res5 with Res4

 and current order symmetrical constraints :
 Res2 after Res1
 Res3 after Res2

 Res4 after Res1
 Res5 after Res4

 and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .

 What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the

 5 Ressources are migrated.

 Is there a solution ?

 For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :

 Res1=VGA
 Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
LV)
 Res3=VM1
 Res4=FS-img-VM2 (where are the VM2 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on another
VGA
 LV)
 Res5=VM2

 So current constraints are so that VGA is activated before the FS-img is
 mounted and before the VM is started.

 But I want that if the VM1 fails, it can migrate on another node (together
 with all other 4 resources) but with only the constraints above, the VGA
 stalls the migration of the VM ...

 Is there any solution by constraints configuration ?
 Note : we can't use group resources for now, because VMs are remote-nodes.

 Thanks
 Alain Moullé
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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on RHE7.1)

2015-08-27 Thread MOULLE, ALAIN
Hi
Sorry, I must admit that the cause of the problem was due to some resources 
configured inside vm (remote-node) and which take much too long to stop .
Now that this is fixed, a vm crash leads to migration of the vm resource and 
all the resources linked to the same VG.
Thanks
Alain


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RHE7.1)

Hi

Thanks, I just tried :
colocation fs-img with vg
colocation vm with vg

but the problem remains :
if the vm fails, it is not migrated despite the migration-threshold=1, as the 
vg remains Started locally and has no problem.
In fact, I would need a parameter to force the vg to move in case of vm or 
fs-img failure, but I think it is not possible for now ...

Alain

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Objet : [Linux-HA] Antw: Question around resources constraints (pacemaker on 
RHE7.1)

 MOULLE, ALAIN alain.mou...@atos.net schrieb am 21.08.2015 um 15:27 in
Nachricht
df84cff8a85ab546b2d53fff12267727022...@frauvj99ex5msx.ww931.my-it-solutions.net

:
 Hi

 I can't find a way to configure constraints in pacemaker so that with these

 resources:

 Res1
 Res2
 Res3
 Res4
 Res5

 with current colocation constraints :
 Res2 with Res1
 Res3 with Res2

I think pacemaker still cannot do transitive location constraints; can you
try
R2 with R1
R3 with R1
(and related) instead?


 Res4 with Res1
 Res5 with Res4

 and current order symmetrical constraints :
 Res2 after Res1
 Res3 after Res2

 Res4 after Res1
 Res5 after Res4

 and migration-threshold=1 on all resources .

 What I want it that if I have a failure for example on Res3  is that all the

 5 Ressources are migrated.

 Is there a solution ?

 For example , with an HA LVM configuration and VM resources :

 Res1=VGA
 Res2=FS-img-VM1 (where are the VM1 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on VGA
LV)
 Res3=VM1
 Res4=FS-img-VM2 (where are the VM2 image and .xml) (FS-img-VM1 is on another
VGA
 LV)
 Res5=VM2

 So current constraints are so that VGA is activated before the FS-img is
 mounted and before the VM is started.

 But I want that if the VM1 fails, it can migrate on another node (together
 with all other 4 resources) but with only the constraints above, the VGA
 stalls the migration of the VM ...

 Is there any solution by constraints configuration ?
 Note : we can't use group resources for now, because VMs are remote-nodes.

 Thanks
 Alain Moullé
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