Announcing: Updated cellphone script.

2000-06-01 Thread Alon Altman
Hi, I have just released an updated version of Nadav Harel's cellphone script, with new options for rotating cellcom/orange accounts and using a config file. In addition, I have also released a script to convert e-mail messages to SMS messages for the well known application of e-mail to SMS.

php / isracard validation

2000-06-01 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All Any one have script for php that validate isracard ? there are many scripts over the internet but all support just the international cards. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chen Shapira) wrote: Comparing linux to warez... well there is one american linux vendor, which sells warez, put it into nasty installer and claims that it is selling linux distro. Nowadys, there is one French one, too. Ouch. The fact that Debian

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: Ouch. The fact that Debian Gnu/Linux is the only free speach distribution doesn't make RedHat and Mandrake illegal software trafficers. Not any more than Sun is. Some of us treat propriety software as uniform badness. This isn't strictly true (notice

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
warez? 30 Nis is to much? it's legal to sell linux cd, there was here a massage about geting linux and i think thet my way is cheaper and faster the anouter way's. On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote: i can burn linux for 30NIS, for all israel, i will sent it by mail

Re: The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
SR For the sake of discussion, here is an interesting article on SR Open source security. Well, I guess all those articles just say one thing people should know from start: "There's no silver bullet". Like, no, Open Source is not silver bullet either. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo) wrote: OM Third - the problem with Mandrake is that they suck. Do they? Did you experience this personally or somebody told you? A friend of a friend of neighbour of my sister told me. Dont tell anyone. Was it good or at least

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
SHM NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, SHM or anything else. SHM BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is SHM the fact that it shouldn't cost money. Oh, yeah? And then you would be insulted when someone says "Linux is for

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Shapira Home Mail
SHM NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, SHM or anything else. SHM BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is SHM the fact that it shouldn't cost money. Oh, yeah? And then you would be insulted when someone says "Linux

Re: need 4 RH-6.2 ?

2000-06-01 Thread ism
On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, you wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, OR wrote: warez? 30 Nis is to much? it's legal to sell linux cd, there was here a massage about geting linux and i think thet my way is cheaper and faster the anouter way's. 30nis is *not* overcharging, depending on the service

Converting mail

2000-06-01 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi all, Any of you had experiance with converting mail messages from Pegasus Mail format to Pine / X based mail client ? Amichai Rotman (SBY) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the

Re: PPP problem

2000-06-01 Thread Shaul Karl
I tend to say that what you described is a problem with your modem init string but this does not explains how all was well so far. Anyway, as far as I know Netvision gives free support for Linux questions even to people who are not its customers. Seems to me your problem falls in an area they

Re: SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Saw Suse 6.4 from PF1, kill me if I know the price. There is another resller in Israel, but I don't know it's name. more info in SuSE website, and pf1's one. Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin"

RE: SUSE in Israel - actually it was 6.4

2000-06-01 Thread Iftach Hyams
~ Ask not for whom the bell tolls, and you will pay only the station-to-station rate ~ Iftach Hyams[EMAIL PROTECTED]972-4-8315605 -- From: Orr Dunkelman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ?

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Ely Levy wrote: as for leagal problem concidering redhat and madrake selling as far as I know there isn't any leagal problem with it now .. no problem redistributing the FREE version, at times reffered to as the "GPL CD Image" although it contains some non-GPL software

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Ira! On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 08:30:29PM +0300, you wrote the following: but you need to offer the sources too AFAIK.. the original owner of the software has to offer them, and that's not even redhat (they just repackage) They also have to offer sources because they distribute

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Shapira Home Mail wrote: BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is the fact that it shouldn't cost money. my friend, you are confusing free beer with free speech. Linux is free as in free speech. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Hi netters, Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good software. Omer could you please give us few examples on bad results using RH? Yanai == =

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: Hi netters, Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good software. Omer could you please give us few examples on bad results using RH? As the people in Aduva, and

Re: SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Netters, SuSE Resellers in Israel PF1 Systems Ltd Maayan Klein 114 Derech Petach Tikva 67012 Tel-Aviv Tel.: +972 3 56 17 175 FAX: +972 3 56 23 607

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)
Shapira Home Mail wrote: NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, or anything else. BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is the fact that it shouldn't cost money. therefore I want to clarify my initial proposal: I am

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Ira Abramov wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: Hi netters, Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good software. Omer could you please give us few examples on bad

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
30 nis is not much for linux! , is almost free! if some one lived in haifa, then he need to buy the disk,send you the disk by mail, and add money that you will send him the disk,it cost almost 40 nis. i dont have a problem thet your born, BUT if not free NIS 30 is not too much if we were

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
you right, linux is free BUT i dont need to pay about the disk and about the sending it by mail, if you want something you need to pay. nothing is FREE ,it cost money even if you go to burn it form someone. Since when the main thing about Linux became its price? I believe the main thing behind

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Itamar S Maltz
I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat including the NOC, and till now it's very stable. personally.. my choice to put on those

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
IA As the people in Aduva, and possibly all Debian addicts will tell you, IA "Kakha lo bonim khoma". Red Hat is a mishmash of packages which are too Yeah. And if you ask Hapoel fans about how good Maccabi plays, you'd get best opinion available :) IA often badly coordinated with suboptimal

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Itamar S Maltz wrote: I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat including the NOC, and till now it's very

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Itamar! On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 10:27:53PM +0300, you wrote the following: I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Hi, As the people in Aduva, and possibly all Debian addicts will tell you, "Kakha lo bonim khoma". Red Hat is a mishmash of packages which are too often badly coordinated with suboptimal defaults. Sadly in a way, it's the de-facto standard in today's market, so use Mandrake instead of

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: Why SGI selected RH as their carrier to implement the 4 Intel based LinuX machine? they claim their SGI-Linux is distribuution-free, but if you want it auto installed (i,e, not patch things manually and all) they have a self-installer for Red Hat, but

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Henry Ficher
Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, Itamar! .. so if anyone has suggestions of a good hardware store in Jerusalem to make friends with, I'll be very glad to hear.) -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org Ever heard of Aba Computers? Not a good hardware store, but they

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Itamar S Maltz
Actually.. I'm hardly a RH advocate, just wanted to read a decent debate about the subject, and yeah.. i've tried it.. still do.. run it on one of the machines here. i was expecting one of you to bring slackware on to the topic. oh well. Generic means for me atleast, out-of-the-box.. want a

SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Iftach Hyams
If it is news - In "Atid Mahshevim" I saw the Suse 6.2 package for 280 Sheqalim. ~ Ask not for whom the bell tolls, and you will pay only the station-to-station rate ~ Iftach Hyams[EMAIL PROTECTED]972-4-8315605

Pango Status Report, 31 May 2000 (fwd)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
-- Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com -- Forwarded message -- Date: 31 May 2000 14:48:55 -0400 From: Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pango Status Report,

RE: The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: Slight correction: Too bad he doesn't discuss the most important thing: time laps between the moment the security problem is found and the moment a fix is released. (define these loosly: fixed means a patch apears on redhat site, and found means an