Oleg Goldshmidt ogoldshmidt(at-nospam)computer.org Wrote:
One recent controversy involved MOSIX, who allegedly violated GPL by
hacking the kernel itself rather than sticking to writing modules.
We in the MOSIX team did not violate any copyright or do anything illegal:
It is true that
At this point I have a follow-up question. Assume for now that a
binary-only module without modification of the kernel itself is OK.
Is it equally (read: to the same degree) OK to modify the kernel to
work with my module, and to release the patch to the kernel under GPL,
keeping the module
On 2001 November 28 ,Wednesday 11:59, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux kernel and therefor can only
| Binary only kernel modules are a clear violation of the GPL (since they
| link to the kernel image, much like linking is done with a loadable
| run time library). However, Linux Torvalds have expressed his
| agreement for the existance of binary only kernel modules as
long they
|
Hetz Ben-Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looking for this?
http://lwn.net/Distributions/
You'll find something that will suit you for sure.
No. Looking for a recommendation on one or two out of the few
dozen that are listed there... ;-)
Thanks, Hetz,
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Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL
Recent versions of KDE use the FAM (sgi_fam) service to keep track of
file changes. This service requires the portmapper to be running.
Cheers,
Henry
Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
Hi All,
Lately I'm getting this weird errors whenever I install/remove RPM or do some
stuff like in KDE (setting fonts
On 2001 November 28 ,Wednesday 11:59, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux kernel and therefor can
On 2001 November? 26 ,Monday 01:24, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Not true... Almost all Gnu software, except perhaps GNOME, was very much
alive before Linux. Emacs, Gcc, Gdb, Bash, Groff, GNU make, bison,
fileutils, just as a few examples, and non-gnu stuff like Ghostscript, Tex,
X-Windows, TCL/TK and
Actually it is true. as for the glibc conundrum which has buffled so many
minds - the answer is simple : glibc is licensed under the LGPL (that as in
Library GNU's Public License).
Oded
--
Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and
some of the people all of the
There is a discussion about GPL related issues in the Linux-IL mailing
list, and since my point is not Linux-specific, I suggest to move the
discussion (if any) to Hackers-IL.
Everyone, who read the history of FSP, knows that Stallman started the
free software idea after having encountered a
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux kernel and therefor can only be published under
Stallman's Printer Driver Test, as formulated above, has two
non-obvious
consequences:
1. If GPLed/LGPLed code is used in embedded devices, then a
way needs to
be provided for the customer to update the code.
Such a requirement would have been helpful in overcoming
Y2K problems
Hi list.
I have a problem with a user (only one) who tries to retrieve his email via
pop3 and I see this kind of message in the log:
ipop3d[27848]: Login user=this_user host=his.host.somewhere [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
nmsgs=321/321
Nov 28 13:29:26 server ipop3d[27848]: Command stream end of file
failure notice
Date: 28 Nov 2001 14:48:10 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at iglu.org.il.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
On 2001 November 28 ,Wednesday 11:59, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux kernel
I've had this or a similar problem with POP3 from an Exchange server. the
problem was with a few users (all sharing the same physical connection) and
I think its related to high latency of the virtual circuit, where when you
have lots of messages (321 in your case, hmm.. nice number :-) the
Hmm, its always running here...
hetz]# ps auxw | grep port
rpc639 0.0 0.0 1556 124 ?SNov27 0:00 portmap
other suggestions?
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 11:56 am, Henry Ficher wrote:
Recent versions of KDE use the FAM (sgi_fam) service to keep track of
file changes.
yedida bar david has. I have gvanim.
Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- diego
On 2001 November? 27 ,Tuesday 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a good TeleText application for Linux?
Also, has someone XAWTV configuration for Matav?
Thanks,
- Tomer
Get your own FREE
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Omer Zak wrote:
There is a discussion about GPL related issues in the Linux-IL mailing
list, and since my point is not Linux-specific, I suggest to move the
discussion (if any) to Hackers-IL.
Everyone, who read the history of FSP, knows that Stallman started the
free
Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
I do not know what was the original status of MOSIX or what the allegations
were, but the setting you described here will violate the GPL as it is
usually interpeted (again : IANAL and I don't think this was ever conteseted
in court) IF :
the binary
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
We in the MOSIX team did not violate any copyright or do anything illegal:
It is true that parts of our software did not comply with the GPL,
but there was no reason they should have.
Violation is indeed too harsh a word and inapropriate. but
http://zapping.sourceforge.net/ - a good TV program and with Teletext viewer
built in.
regarding XawTV configuration for Matav - donno, I use Tevel, and their
Tevel Digital sucks - it seems that they have problem with sending MPEG
stream (sometimes its so bad that you get an error saying that
This is in reply to the various posts by Amnon Shlioh. he said a lot of
things, most of which I can sum up in this sentence : Yes, we violated the
GPL - but we don't care because licenses can not be enforced in a court of
law, because a court of law rules by laws, not by contracts.
This
The glibc source distribution I have (2.2.4) has both COPYING and
COPYING.LIB. while looking at the sources I see some files pointing to
COPYING, while most are pointing to COPYING.LIB. I think that all relevant
files that get compiled into the glibc binaries are now under the LGPL (the
glibc was
In this section I'm a bit hazy - but as I see it, modules are linked
againt the kernel , as linking means that you can communicate by function
calls in the same memory space, whatever you wish to call it, and whatever
API you use to accomplish such a deal.
Oded
--
Beware of low-flying
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001, Amnon Shiloh wrote about Re: making a non-GPLed module:
...
The whole GPL-based arguments are irrelevant: we were distributing
a piece of software that was written and copyrighted solely by us,
we did not copy anybody else's code (including implicitly due to compilation),
Ladies and Gents,
To paraphrase some unrecalled cowboys movie: when someone begins telling me what I
can or cannot do with code I wrote I reach for my gun I'm pretty sure I would
feel the same under a similar situation. On the other hand, the people who invested
the time to write GPL
I am sorry for me being ignorant but this discussion is interesting.
You are essentially saying that even if you break the GPL license, no one
can sue you in Israel?
Also, Mosix is developed by you at huji which is a respectable institute.
Wouldn't it be immoral of you to exercise this kind of
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, I am no lawyer, but the official GNU/FSF standpoint as I
understand is that the fact that module links against a GPLed work
(the Linux kernel) means in is considered a derived work of the
Linux kernel and therefor can only be published
Finally some interesting words in the boring
I agree ;-)
Indeed, if you give away (or sell) patches to whatever
copyrighted software
(in this case, the Linux kernel), and the patches only include
your own code,
100% your code, I see no reason how the license of the original
Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
I am sorry for me being ignorant but this discussion is interesting.
You are essentially saying that even if you break the GPL license, no one
can sue you in Israel?
As explained, one can only be sued for license-violation in relation to
items that are
hello
i have this modem: US Robotics ISA FAX INT. 56k
i want to make my slackware 8 (2.4.5) recognize it
here are some details that someone from the list told me to
give:
# ls -l /dev/modem
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Nov 18 20:53 /dev/modem - ttyS3
# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
0: 53924 XT-PIC
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 04:42 pm, Aviv wrote:
hello
i have this modem: US Robotics ISA FAX INT. 56k
i want to make my slackware 8 (2.4.5) recognize it
Hi,
your modem is not recognized according to these details - and the ttyS3
points to COM4 which might (by default) conflict with
aviv,
please note that kppp and the rest are just GUIs,
so they don't actually change anything except some init scripts for the
connection, your modem probably has the jumper to turn pnp off,
but even if it's not, and you don't have any other pnp devices,
you can simply tell BIOS that your OS is
Hi,
I got one of those new Radeon VE DDR 32MB cards.
X seems to detect it fine, but it has a lot of unresolved symbols in
radeon_drv.o (and of course the screen stays blank).
I searched google, sdb etc. but found only others who complained about the
same thing.
Does anybody know about a
Hi Friends,
FYI you can find SuSE7.3 (i386) and the SuSE7.3 live evaluation ISO for
download on my server: ftp://schapiro.org/pub
Sincerely,
Schlomo Schapiro
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WWW: http://www.schapiro.org
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To
Hi Schlomo,
You got 2 options:
1. To try and compile XFree from CVS.
2. Ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] (if you're using RedHat) maybe he issued XFree
4.1.X RPMS newer then then whats on 7.2, tell him about which card you got
(and don't forget the lspci output)..
--
Hetz Ben Hamo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is SuSE releasing also SuSE 7.3 ISO's as free? (not the live evaluation) or
only the full directory? (which requites to download it entirely or install
through floppy if you have live connection to the net)
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 09:07 pm, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
Hi Friends,
FYI you
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about RE: making a non-GPLed module:
I don't agree. I can't publish a sequeul to Gone with the Wind under my name and
using the original characters. The copyright owners would sue me and win (this had
happend in the US, btw). For this reason I
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Finally some interesting words in the boring what-does-the-GPL-*really*-means
saga (this whole thread almost convinced me to eschew the GPL and start using
some sort of BSD or X license... People seem to be forgetting that free
software was meant to
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Oded Arbel wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Maxim Kryachko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: pop3 problem
Hi list.
I have a problem with a user (only one) who tries to retrieve his email
via
Hi
Does any one know about a small linux distribution that can be run as an
application on win9x (I don't mean those dists that sits on one of the win
partitions and requiers reboot to start them) ?
thanks,
Ishai.
=
To
hi there's a big program called VMWare, it allows you to virtually boot
anything bootable, as long as it's bootable enough.
another solution is lin4win and another solution is simply fool
installation.
what is a purpose of trying a very limited version of OS if you want to
try it ?
another
At 19:57 28/11/01 +0200, you wrote:
Hi
Does any one know about a small linux distribution that can be run as an
application on win9x (I don't mean those dists that sits on one of the win
partitions and requiers reboot to start them) ?
thanks,
Ishai.
hi guys,
You misunderstood this guy. I think you frightend the little fella ;).
Now seriously, he meant that the linux file will be on the fat32 partition.
Check out Phat Linux and other distributions here:
http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html
and phat linux here:
http://www.phatlinux.com/
*
Hi,
you get only the live-eval as ISO. Full install is only via ftp. If you
need you can visit me with a hard disk and copy it over. It's less than 5G
I think.
Sincerely,
Schlomo Schapiro
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WWW: http://www.schapiro.org
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
I know that this subject surfaced several timeson this list, but
still...
Where can I buy in Israel a Linux compatible modem--
prefferable not an external one?
I found a lot of sites which offer acceptable products,
notably o-wow; but I need it in Israel.
- Original Message -
From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux-IL Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: pop3 problem
I'm not sure I read this correctly, but...
What about:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, ami bizamcher wrote:
At 19:57 28/11/01 +0200, you wrote:
Hi
Does any one know about a small linux distribution that can be run as an
application on win9x (I don't mean those dists that sits on one of the win
partitions and requiers reboot to start them) ?
Ishai
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001, Max Kovgan wrote about Re: linux over win9x:
what is a purpose of trying a very limited version of OS if you want to
try it ?
Well, sometimes it's nice to try out something before you commit to it (with
disk space and time).
For example, after mentioning in a previous
Dynamode, an Israeli board assembly house, used to sell 56K PCI hardware
only modems with a rockwell chipsets that worked well under linux. these
weren't chip - around 300NIS, but they worked great. I do not know what is
the current state of such a device - the dynamode web site still lists them
At 21:01 28/11/01 +0200, you wrote:
hi guys,
You misunderstood this guy. I think you frightend the little fella ;).
Now seriously, he meant that the linux file will be on the fat32 partition.
please explain what you mean by: linux file
???
Check out Phat Linux and other distributions here:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001, Omer Zak wrote about Re: making a non-GPLed module:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Finally some interesting words in the boring what-does-the-GPL-*really*-means
saga (this whole thread almost convinced me to eschew the GPL and start using
some sort of
At 21:01 28/11/01 +0200, you wrote:
hi guys,
You misunderstood this guy. I think you frightend the little fella ;).
Now seriously, he meant that the linux file will be on the fat32 partition.
please explain what you mean by: linux file
???
Check out Phat Linux and other distributions here:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, ami bizamcher wrote:
At 21:01 28/11/01 +0200, you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ami bizamcher
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux over win9x
At
And 2 months ago I bought a Dynamode winmodem only to find out it's not
working nor with my Linux and not even with Windows (I specially installed
Windows just to test it) - I replaced the modem with 3 other modems from the
same model - with the same error (well, their support guy didn't know
Dynamode is a peculiar company - it has some great pieces of hardware that
will work for years, never break, supply tremendous amounts of stability and
endurance (for example, the 336-VQH-R), OTOH it sells the crappiest things
ever to be named computer products, that will break the second they
if you're into analog modem,
the best solution is a hardware modem
(there's plenty of v.90 supporting hardware modems)
as for the software modems - just refer to the
site about linmodem (google search)
and see what has the warmest replies.
choose simply the modems that are supported by the latest
Hello!
Did anybody success reading hebrew properly in evolution? It doesn't
seem to work with biditext or gtkbidi.
- Oren
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To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run
NH or X license... People seem to be forgetting that free software
NH was meant to free you from needing to consulting lawyers before
NH you can see/use some software's code...).
Huh. You wish. If you are not in GPL/GPL situation, you better go for
some MS-EULAs - at least after you paid them
Thanks, but:
I already saw some linmodem sites (with specifications and all) BUT,
I need a modem (even a hardware one) that I could be bought
from a store here (even if it is in Eilat :) .
Max Kovgan wrote:
if you're into analog modem,
the best solution is a hardware modem
(there's plenty
TF Also, Mosix is developed by you at huji which is a respectable
TF institute. Wouldn't it be immoral of you to exercise this kind
TF of conduct in the university. Not to mention the poor example
Well, it we start to talk about morality, I'm not sure it's morally right
to force anybody to give
OA like I said - this is BS. if I do that and the BSA puts their
OA filthy paws on me, I face fines upto 250,000 NIS and upto 5
OA years in prison (IIRC).
AFAIK prison terms cannot be given for any license violation. You must
violate some criminal law to get this. Unauthorized distribution of
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Oren Held wrote:
Hello!
Did anybody success reading hebrew properly in evolution? It doesn't
seem to work with biditext or gtkbidi.
A problem indeed
You can try running:
BIDITEXT_OPTIONS=TRACE_ANY biditext evolution
You will notivce that biditext is consulted for
Hi
I am quite happy with my no-name Winmodem, based on PCTel chipset
PCT789 (others by PCTel also work, but check before you buy, here
http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/linux/pctel.html).
I bought mine in MACHSANEI HAMACHSHEV, near KANYON AYALON,
for 100 NIS, around half a year ago. I believe other
Ishai, on my homble opinion:
I founded that installing on VMware is great to test different kind of
installation where you want to play with different hardware.
you can run multiple virtuals machines in one PC and save a lot of money.
you can build all kind of networks, I found vmware
OZ The question of whether to choose GPL or another license
OZ eventually boils down to the issue whether you want to keep the
OZ end-user of your software empowered or not.
Or you might say whether you want to force the user of your software to
understand freedom and being empowered exactly as
OA If your binary that links against GPLed code (be it dynamic or
OA static linking) does anything interesting and useful w/o using
OA the GPLed code (in your example - reading and composing mail),
OA then it is _not_ a derived work of the GPLed code.
On my experience (based on observing some
Hi,
In a box with 2 CPUs, I am using RedHat kernel
2.4.7.
Qustions:
1) Is it possible to enable/disable, by software
means, a specific CPU (cpu 0 | cpu 1) ?
2) While both CPUs are enabled, can we enforce a
program to run ONLY on a specific CPU ?
Thanks,
Avi Koski
exactly what tzafrir said. if i am not mistaken its a umsdos or something like that.
I believe the man asked how to run linux without repartitioning.
another solution as you suggested is to use VMware, but i guess he don't want to pay
for something like that if he uses win98 and he can simply
I urge everyone to refer this criminal offtopicer to comp.lang.c or
similar mailing lists/Usenet newsgroups, rather than actually feeding him
the answer by spoon.
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Refael Ackermann wrote:
I see this is a very livly list and full of pepole who know what they're
doing, so I
I see this is a very livly list and full of pepole who know what they're
doing, so I feel safe to ask this quistion.
It's a C++ quistion.
I'm looking for a way to save a vectorbool to disk, and then ofcourse
retriving it, how (or can I) do it?
Actualy the bigger problem I'm trying to solve is
What's this WinLinux?
http://www.winlinux.net/2001/
At 19:57 28/11/2001, you wrote:
Hi
Does any one know about a small linux distribution that can be run as
an
application on win9x (I don't mean those dists that sits on one of the
win
partitions and requiers reboot to start them) ?
thanks,
Ishai.
Hi,
In a box with 2 CPUs, I am using RedHat kernel
2.4.7.
Qustions:
1) Is it possible to enable/disable, by software
means, a specific CPU (cpu 0 | cpu 1) ?
2) While both CPUs are enabled, can we enforce a
program to run ONLY on a specific CPU ?
Thanks,
Avi Koski
try vmware
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Refael Ackermann wrote:
What's this WinLinux?
http://www.winlinux.net/2001/
At 19:57 28/11/2001, you wrote:
Hi
Does any one know about a small linux distribution that can
be run as an
application on win9x (I don't mean those dists
i know you have the option of choosing to activate just one CPU. it is
inserted as a way out, incase you have problems with activating both.
i dont know if you can pick a specific one, and i never tried it.
Orna.
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
In a box with 2 CPUs, I am
- Original Message -
From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PhatLinux is one of those linux distros that sits on one of the win
partitions and requiers reboot to start it.
And AFAIK it is not downloadable (give us 25$ and we'll send you a cd)...
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