Eran Tromer wrote:
Hi,
Whatever method you use, doing a full upgrade using the installer has
a very high chance of failing in *some* way, so if you don't have
low-level remote control facilities you'd better be prepared to come
over anyway.
If you can't do that, you may be better
Wow, a long thread, eh? And worthwhile, I think. I'd like to note the
following. The discussion is significantly biased towards technical
issues, which is natural given the nature of the list and the
interests of its population. However, there were a few emails that
touched on a broader question
hi,
i upgraded from mandrake 8.0 to mandrake 8.2 and now when i run gphoto2 (for
my digital camera) i get the following error (even if i run it as root):
An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'):
Could
not claim interface 0 (Device or resource busy). Make sure no
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Eran Tromer wrote:
Hi,
Whatever method you use, doing a full upgrade using the installer has
a very high chance of failing in *some* way, so if you don't have
low-level remote control facilities you'd better be prepared to come
over
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
* There were no postings from people who do not know Hebrew. I think
there used to be quite a few. Have all of them left the list
recently for political or other irrelevant reasons? I hope not.
I stayed silent because it was a holiday. From sundown on Thursday to
I think the problem is not with the clients which can or not read hebrew,
but rather the major problem of no standart way to call things.
You can't write in pure hebrew and what people usually have problem with
is the technical stuff anyhow.
add to that the fact that almost all console mail
actualy I know a LOT and I mean a LOT of people who doesn't use linux
cause of lack of docs/native reading-writing/mailing lists
hebrew support. I know it doesn't matter to you, but hebrew is and still
and if you ask me I hope it would keep being the language of our country.
there is something
To some it all up in a few sentences. I think that many here have told their small
techie problem
and have clearly expressed they are not going to make the extra effort to fix their
mail
client.
They also decided that they are not going to remain on the list if it would allow
Hebrew.
(whether
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
* There is a small (but larger) group of people who promote Hebrew on
linux-il on the patriotic grounds that Swedes do it, Finns do it.
No they don't. They have No, ZERO, NADA, ZIP, efes, Hebrew on their lists.
Ely Levy wrote:
actualy I know a LOT and I mean a LOT of people who doesn't use linux
cause of lack of docs/native reading-writing/mailing lists
hebrew support.
That's a whole 'nother thing. At this time if you want Linux, you need
English literacy. The reason you don't need it for windows
Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And have you ever looked at their lists? How much Swedish, Finnish, etc
do the have on them? I'll bet all the really juicy questions are in English
or if not, could be understood by an English speaker.
Geoff, you know me well enough :-). I
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Geoff, you know me well enough :-). I *have* looked at the Swedish/Danish
LUG web page / mailing list archives before posting one of my previous
follow-ups. They are mostly in their native tongue, and that is
qualitatively less comprehensible than, say, Italian or
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Ely Levy wrote:
actualy I know a LOT and I mean a LOT of people who doesn't use linux
cause of lack of docs/native reading-writing/mailing lists
hebrew support.
That's a whole 'nother thing. At this time if you want Linux, you need
How did you manage to convert the deb to rpm?
I tried alien, but it get the following message:
alien -f bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb
Control file couldn't be read! at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Alien/Package/Deb.pm line 161.
I am using Mandrake 8.2, and I got this message both
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
* There is a small (but larger) group of people who promote Hebrew on
linux-il on the patriotic grounds that Swedes do it, Finns do it.
No they don't. They have No,
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Translation: Hebrew readers: was this sentence the first thing you read
[in this post]? Apologies for the Hebrew content, but it is Here to make
a point.
Point well made.
*plonk*
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 03:54:02PM +0300, Itai Arad wrote:
How did you manage to convert the deb to rpm?
I tried alien, but it get the following message:
alien -f bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb
Control file couldn't be read! at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Alien/Package/Deb.pm
To all of you having already generated OO executables, or planning to do
so: there is a fix to apply in addition to the bunch of patches that I
have already distributed to those who asked. The fix is for the following
problem: after changing the direction of a table, the cells are not
The mdsum is
e96459338707838194fa5d3481cf6d24 bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb
I downloaded it twice, and at each time I got the the same MDsum (and
the same error message from alien)
Itai.
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 16:45, Yotam Rubin wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 03:54:02PM +0300, Itai
Hello list.
I am encountering a strange problem and i wonder if anybody else got it /
solved it. I am openning a MS word (office XP) saved document, i cant see any
of tthe letters until i select the whole text and change it to one of the
hebrew fonts availible in OO's menu. i thought it was
Hebrew has nothing to do with newbies, but in my opinion newbies will prefer
to use hebrew. I dont mean all of you people that are interested in computers,
I talk about regular people who use computers as a tool (document processing
and a like...).
And gnubies-il as much as I know should be
What about opening new mailing list for Hebrew OO ?
It seems like it will be (and should) be here forever...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Barak Kaufman
Sent: ?? 19 ??? 2002 17:12?
To: linux il
Subject: Open Office Hebrew Support
Hello
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
!!
here we go..
no headers who say what encoding he is using..
ely
To unsubscribe, send
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the
Well you know what they say,
being it's not their fault for being newbies some poor people are just
born like that.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
I don't believe that the Hebrew language is connected to being a newbie or
It require to limit yourself into certain email client
it require learning about encoding, sometimes exporting the e-mail
it require figuring what kind of bidi the specific client used
don't forget gnome kde and mozilla and uses a diffrent kind of bidi
alogarithim and more joining..
Ely Levy
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 06:02:00PM +0300, Itai Arad wrote:
The mdsum is
e96459338707838194fa5d3481cf6d24
bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb
I downloaded it twice, and at each time I got the the same MDsum
(and
the same error message from alien)
Alright, what does:
ar -p
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
here we go..
no headers who say what encoding he is using..
Err...
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-8-i
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
--
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:[EMAIL
I really don't get it..
why doesn't sw or nl or ru or br people care about other people from other
countries to read their mailing list?
this is linux IL notice the capital letters in the end of the mailing list
name. If someone from other country would write e-mail in english most
chances s/he
Hello !
Anyone selling a second hand US Robotics 56K *COURIER* Modem ?
I have checked lots of places in israel including online ones
and I found out that they don't sell USR or sell other modem
than COURIER.
Any one ?
Thanks!
Eliran
--
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every
the point is that they would show some sentances not in the same way..
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
It require to limit yourself into certain email client
As I said: most
Yea yea we all know how prode you are in getting the name ivrix ;
btw most important I didn't see any laguistic people there..
Which make me wonder how would you translate things to hebrew?
Most things doesn't have names in hebrew yet and whatever you would chose
would probebly won't become
dhcp
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 19 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear list,
Does anyone know of a way to remotely upgrade a red hat OS ? (without keyboard/mouse
- in fact only a LAN connection).
Kick start is a nice way, but requires too
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 07:37:12PM +0300, Itai Arad wrote:
Well I get the control file. So? Maybe there's something wrong in LM8.2
?
People say it is trivial to convert deb==rpm. So why can't anyone who
done that upload the rpm to iglu.org.il ? it would be so much easier
than fighting
hehe join me in my unending quest to find a cheap modem that works on
linux. check the thread from few days ago to get some ideas about how to
get one
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Eliran wrote:
Hello !
Anyone selling a second hand US
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
it require figuring what kind of bidi the specific client used
don't forget gnome kde and mozilla and uses a diffrent kind of bidi
alogarithim
They use
asking me or eliran?
I'm looking for pci one
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Is ISA ok?
Ely Levy wrote:
hehe join me in my unending quest to find a cheap modem that works on
linux. check the thread from few days
Is ISA ok?
Ely Levy wrote:
hehe join me in my unending quest to find a cheap modem that works on
linux. check the thread from few days ago to get some ideas about how to
get one
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Eliran wrote:
Hello !
Anyone
I'm telling the list what I have. 56K ISA.
I have just bought a 56K USR PCI from Ligad, after asking them three
times to make sure that this is a Linux compatible modem. The price also
seems to suggest that it is. I'll get it and test it out. If it works
out, I'll let you all know.
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know it always amuze me when people suggest to change hebrew writing
into latin and giving up LTR.
You will note the Turks did this and never looked back. Other then the
people murdered by Attaturk, they seemed largely happy with that
On 19 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would you change it to?
The latin alphabet. It has remained pretty much constant (besides the change
in the look of S -- the old look which inspired the look of the sign for the
integal)
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
No, it remained dead and nobody used it in day to day. Because it
is a stupid alphabet, optimized for
On 19 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
No, it remained dead and nobody used it in day to day. Because it
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have just bought a 56K USR PCI from Ligad, after asking them three
times to make sure that this is a Linux compatible modem.
FWIW, I am using something called 3Com US Robotics (if I read the fine
print on the box right, it is made by 3com, USR
Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
Unless
you believe there is something holy about it, I don't see the point
On Sun, May 19, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
month work
maybe if you work full time on it day by day..
if you know how do tell me I would be more than happy to do it
Ok. How about the following idea: make a (say) Redhat 7.3 based Hebrew
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 18:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi people
I got this hublike appliance-thingie with a flash thingamabob and a
stripped down Redhat 6.2 for Little Endian MIPS, and a MIPS Texas
Instruments CPU.
Amazing, but it actually works. Whoever installed it didn't bother putting
On Sun, May 19, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
here we go..
no headers who say what encoding he is using..
By the way, from my short experience with getting Hebrew email, I saw that
Hi,
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:50:23PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 18:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi people
I got this hublike appliance-thingie with a flash thingamabob and a
stripped down Redhat 6.2 for Little Endian MIPS, and a MIPS Texas
Instruments CPU.
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
month work
maybe if you work full time on it day by day..
if you know how do tell me I would be more than happy to do it
Ok. How about the following
On Sun, May 19, 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL
mailing lists?:
They use different *implementations* of the same algorithm
(KDE: QT's implementation, Gnome and abiword: fribidi, mozilla and
openoffice: ICU)
the point is that they would show some
On Sun, May 19, 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
No,
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to pretty print some source code into a post
script file. Possible options:
1. use emacs' 'ps-print-buffer', which prints directly to the
printer. Can I get it to print to a ps file instead?
2. a LaTeX package? Lyx support? groff?
3. source - HTML - postscript?
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:56:12PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to pretty print some source code into a post
script file. Possible options:
1. use emacs' 'ps-print-buffer', which prints directly to the
printer. Can I get it to print to a ps file instead?
On 19 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
No, it remained dead and nobody used it in day to day.
This is
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 23:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to pretty print some source code into a post
script file. Possible options:
[ 1 .. 3 options emitted ]
Anything else?
Of course! c2ps is the greatest gift the Technion has ever given man
kind, except for
Hi Nadav,
To create a fribidi rpm, you need to do
'rpm -tb fribidi-0.10.4.tar.gz' as root, to get the rpm in
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/ or you need to setup some rc files in your
user home. There is a nice HOWTO from mandrake which I studied
rpms.
BTW, let me know of the Local Linux in a Month
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:27:15AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 23:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
I'm looking for a way to pretty print some source code into a post
script file. Possible options:
Gilad wrote:
Of course! c2ps is the greatest gift the Technion has
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know it always amuze me when people suggest to change hebrew writing
into latin and giving up LTR.
You will note the Turks did this and never looked back. Other then the
people murdered by Attaturk, they seemed largely happy with
Eran Tromer wrote:
By the way, here's a useful trick when remoting upgrading kernels.
1. Install the new kernel, but keep the old one as the default.
2. Use lilo -D newkernel to make the new kernel the temporary
default (this affects only the next reboot).
3. Reboot.
4. Update lilo.conf
I have noticed the underrepresentation of not so fluent Hebrew speakers to
this thread, so here is my NIS0.02:
I live in the US, and speak Hebrew quite fluently (without that accent you
guys dislike ;-)), yet except in English I have quite some trouble discussing
IT matters. I simply don't
Hi List,
Would someone please explain me why when I
add secondary address to loopback interface
by either as a secondary or by ip addr add
it does not add route entry in routing table?
I've tried on RH6.2 with both 2.2.20 and 2.4.18
and I think it's a tipical behavior, but what's
the reason?
--
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 11:32, El-al, Netta wrote:
hi,
i upgraded from mandrake 8.0 to mandrake 8.2 and now when i run gphoto2 (for
my digital camera) i get the following error (even if i run it as root):
An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'):
Could
not claim
[second attempt. it seems that the first one failed. in case I'm wrong,
please forgive me]
hi,
this is a strange problem: we have dual PIII with RH7.2 on it (as only OS).
Today, while X was logging out from KDE session, I tried to swich to text
console (by Ctr-Alt-F1), and X just hanged. The
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
No. The unicode specification specify exactly how a compliant
implementation should display bidi (convert logical-visual). All
implementations should be strictly compliant. If two separate
implementations display the same sentence in a different way, then at
least one of them
Please respond to Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?
Nadav Har'El wrote the following about Unicode
Boris Gorelik (by way of b g ) wrote:
[second attempt. it seems that the first one failed. in case I'm wrong,
please forgive me]
hi,
this is a strange problem: we have dual PIII with RH7.2 on it (as only OS).
Today, while X was logging out from KDE session, I tried to swich to text
console (by
Hi,
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 08:30:53AM +0300, Malcolm Kavalsky wrote:
Boris Gorelik (by way of b g ) wrote:
[second attempt. it seems that the first one failed. in case I'm wrong,
please forgive me]
hi,
this is a strange problem: we have dual PIII with RH7.2 on it (as only OS).
Today,
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