Re: RIP Update 3

2002-08-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: > 1. Assaf Flato -> Machine with CDR (Windows ONLY) > 2. Amir Tal -> Hats/T-Shirts/Condoms witn Linux on 'em > 3. Moshe Zadka -> A willing right hand > 4. Moi ->

RIP Update 4

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Update 4. Please, enough hubs/switches. A SERVER with ManDrek, RedHate, SoSo, etc. Ok - my misunderstanding was that there will BE monitors. But - truth will out and the will NOT be monitors. So, we will need monitors. How THIS is gonna be organised is, as yet, beyond my ken. I am REALLY not keen

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: >On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:17:49PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > >>Assuming the date turns out ok, I'm willing to help with the actual >>installations. I have experience with Debian and RedHat. >> >> > >Likewise, assuming a suitable date. My specialty is weird

Re: ICQ client suggestion

2002-08-15 Thread Barak Kaufman
the encoding was added today or yesterday .. this shows u that the cvs updates at least once a day and everytime there are visible improvements :) the guy is doing amazing job i have been following this client for more than a month now and the features just add up everyday :) so enjoy and drop

Re: OT: Processing architectures (Was: Looking for old UNIXes)

2002-08-15 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 11:55:53PM +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > [snip] > > >2. This, of course, isn't very interesting - what's usually is is actual > >performance. And this, as we all know, depends heavily on the application. > >[SPEC'S CPU2000 benchmark snipped]

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Amir Sela
> Promised from above: > ***2. Hub/Switch (8 or more ports would be SO nice)*** > > Comments? > I can bring a 24 port switch-hub to the event, if needed. I can also supply a few fairly long STP cables, but I'm sure this is easily attained anyways. I can also burn (not on-site, at home) dis

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
áéåí çîéùé, 15 áàåâåñè 2002, 23:36, Oleg Kobets ëúá: > Guys, don't worry about CD's. I have: > > suse 8.0 - full 7 cd's Isn't SuSE limited in distribution ? at which case I don't think you can insall it to anyone, nor duplicate it. > mandrake 8.2 - 3 cd's > redhat 7.3 - 3 cd's > debian 3.0 - sp

Re: CABLES Sux!

2002-08-15 Thread Oleg Kobets
You know, I talked with NetVision support the other day and asked them why they did it ? I mean, why use pptp when all was ok ? And they answered that it is used to control clients uptime. They have those 1$/day account and they must know when you are connected and when you not, so they made it wi

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 10:23:38PM +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > I've seen S.u.s.e Linux runs nicely on an UltraSparc (I think it was 5 or > > 10). It was pretty fast, but I did not benchmark it against a Pentium. > > Yeah, me too, although I still got problems configuring the X server the

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:26:22PM +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > > > > > > >>Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better > >>performance then new P4/AMD ? > >>Does Linux support such hardwa

Re: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Amir Tal
On Thursday 15 August 2002 16:51, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Amir Tal wrote: > > the cable companies in Israel changed the method users are connecting to > > them from web-based authentication to pptp. > > i have written a HOWTO explaining how to connect with the new setting. it >

Re: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Amir Tal
On Thursday 15 August 2002 18:17, Michael Sternberg wrote: > My friend have a Linux box that connects to Netvision via > cable modem. The procedure is same to described in your > HOWTO with one difference - I do not need to change default > route to the far end of PPP link. I'm using default gatew

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Oleg Kobets
Guys, don't worry about CD's. I have: suse 8.0 - full 7 cd's mandrake 8.2 - 3 cd's redhat 7.3 - 3 cd's debian 3.0 - special netinst I will bring them to the event. Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Moshe Zadka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> I've seen S.u.s.e Linux runs nicely on an UltraSparc (I think it was 5 or > 10). It was pretty fast, but I did not benchmark it against a Pentium. Yeah, me too, although I still got problems configuring the X server there (some sort of NCR variant of ATI card) - works really nice. There's some

Re: ICQ client suggestion

2002-08-15 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hmm, you might just want to wait a bit before you erase your licq... There's a bug there - you can read now hebrew messages, but sending is a problematic since Vladimir forgot to add ISO8859-8-i to the encoding when sending messages. He'll probably add it tommorow. BTW - the sim-icq looks real

Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew

2002-08-15 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:20:45PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about "Re: Essay about Free Software - >in Hebrew": > > On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 02:43, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > http://nadav.harel.org.il/essays/chofesh/ > >... > > 2. One nitpick -

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better performance then new P4/AMD ? Does Linux support such hardware well ? I've seen S.u.s.e Linux runs nicely on an UltraSparc (I thin

Re: ICQ client suggestion

2002-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2002, Oded Arbel wrote about "Re: ICQ client suggestion": Yes - setting the locale to he_IL.iso8859-8 will probably allow you to receive hebrew messages from Windows users, but my locale is set to use utf8 (I need it for other things), and it d

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 19:48, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > I want, if possible, PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS, PEOPLE, to use the store's > monitors. Three monitors without yourself carting them is more than I'd > want to handle ;-)... What store? it's going to hapen in the middle of the Ken

Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew

2002-08-15 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moshe's suggestion makes it even worse : If you portray the commercial > software companies as evil, you make it sound more righteous to illegaly > copy the software they create. I, on the other hand, completely agree that this is wh

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Yotam Rubin
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:48:15PM +0300, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > Quoth Yotam Rubin: > > > > While I do not plan to attend, I am willing to put my meager resources > > at your disposal. My arsenal of usable hardware contains the following > > possibly useful items: > > Not all,

Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew

2002-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
Moshe Zadka wrote: >If it does go on the IGLU site, I'd like to reiterate my reservation about >putting a small note that these are only the author's opinions -- I, for >one, would not like to be associate with the phrase "if you decide >to buy an expensive OS...or worse, copy it illegally" (let

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better > performance then new P4/AMD ? > Does Linux support such hardware well ? > I've seen S.u.s.e Linux runs nicely on an UltraSparc (I think it was 5 or 10). It was pretty fast,

Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew

2002-08-15 Thread Eliran
> How would I say "proprietary" in Hebrew? I've seen people use the term > "tochna kinyanit", but I'm not sure how good this translation is... What > is the "official" translation of proprietary into Hebrew? I think this is the right way... ==

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Yotam Rubin: > > While I do not plan to attend, I am willing to put my meager resources > at your disposal. My arsenal of usable hardware contains the following > possibly useful items: Not all, thanks. Not because it is not wanted, but because there are too many parts without yourself in

RIP Update 3

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: 1. Assaf Flato -> Machine with CDR (Windows ONLY) 2. Amir Tal -> Hats/T-Shirts/Condoms witn Linux on 'em 3. Moshe Zadka -> A willing right hand 4. Moi -> birnam.bard.org.il (Deb mirror), a willing right hand,

Re: ICQ client suggestion

2002-08-15 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002, Oded Arbel wrote about "Re: ICQ client suggestion": > Yes - setting the locale to he_IL.iso8859-8 will probably allow you to > receive hebrew messages from Windows users, but my locale is set to use > utf8 (I need it for other things), and it doesnt look to me like a good

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:17:49PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Assuming the date turns out ok, I'm willing to help with the actual > installations. I have experience with Debian and RedHat. Likewise, assuming a suitable date. My specialty is weird installation problems and entertaining the

Re: ICQ client suggestion

2002-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
Barak Kaufman wrote: >i think it depends on teh icq version (for windows) u are using .. i havent >had any problems recieving hebrew messages from windows users ... (although i >have to admit i dont get many of those :)) > >> >> >>>yes he_IL.iso8859-8 >>> >>>On Tuesday 13 August 2002 20:19,

Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew

2002-08-15 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about "Re: Essay about Free Software - in Hebrew": > On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 02:43, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > http://nadav.harel.org.il/essays/chofesh/ >... > 2. One nitpick - I would avoid pitting 'commercial software' (Tochna > Misharit) againt 'free

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: >Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: > > > >>1. Pepole who are willing and able to help install Linux on other >>peoples machines. >> >>2. More ideas. >> >> > >Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: > > 1. Assaf Flato -> Machine with CDR (Windows O

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: 1. Assaf Flato -> Machine with CDR (Windows ONLY) 2. Amir Tal -> Hats/T-Shirts/Condoms witn Linux on 'em 3. Moshe Zadka -> A willing right hand 4. Moi -> birnam.bard.org.il (Deb mirror), a willing right hand,

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Yotam Rubin
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 06:30:08PM +0300, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: > > > 1. Pepole who are willing and able to help install Linux on other > > peoples machines. > > > > 2. More ideas. > > Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: > > 1. Assa

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Moshe Zadka -> A few woodies (Moshe, I prefer space cookies) Me too ;) Seriously -- this must have been a misunderstanding. I have no CDs and no access to a burner. I can only commit to bring myself and m

RE: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Sternberg
Title: RE: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO I am receiving the real IP from Netvision's DHCP server. From some reason I can not use it until I connect to VPN and receive a dummy IP that I never use.. --  -Original Message- --  From: Amir Tal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --  Sen

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: > 1. Pepole who are willing and able to help install Linux on other > peoples machines. > > 2. More ideas. Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: 1. Assaf Flato -> Machine with CDR (Windows ONLY) 2. Amir Tal -> Hats/T-Shirts/Condoms witn Linux o

RIP (Raanaa Instalation Party): Resources

2002-08-15 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Moshe Zadka: > On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you don't have the place for a mirror of the CD images, it would be > helpful to mirror the netinst CD (from lordsutch's site). The machine I am going to be carting in has, in the end, 20

RE: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Sternberg
Title: RE: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO My friend have a Linux box that connects to Netvision via cable modem. The procedure is same to described in your HOWTO with one difference - I do not need to change default route to the far end of PPP link. I'm using default gateway received

Re: [gnubies-il] The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Amir Tal wrote: > the cable companies in Israel changed the method users are connecting to them > from web-based authentication to pptp. > i have written a HOWTO explaining how to connect with the new setting. it can > be found here : > > http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?nam

The CABLES-DHCP-PPTP HOWTO

2002-08-15 Thread Amir Tal
the cable companies in Israel changed the method users are connecting to them from web-based authentication to pptp. i have written a HOWTO explaining how to connect with the new setting. it can be found here : http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=17 -- =

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Haggai
No. Testing 400MHZ Sparc CPU against P3 500MHz, it came to be deppended on the complition (cc, gcc). My application was about twice!!! faster on the Linux. Haggai. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better > performance then new P4/AMD ? >

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Thursday 15 August 2002 16:20, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better > > erformance then new P4/AMD ? depends which performance you're looking for; I/O - Ultra Sparc will be much better compiling stuff and anything related to cpu

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Just wonder, will old UNIX ( for example the UltraSparcs ) will give better performance then new P4/AMD ? Does Linux support such hardware well ? > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > Aviram, > > > > I would strongly suggest that your company will buy through eBay - TONS of > > hardware at unbelivable low

RE: netvison cable part II

2002-08-15 Thread Arie Vayner
I don't know about any changes. The normal PPTP version works. Arie -Original Message- From: Muli Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:34 PM To: Arie Vayner Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netvison cable part II On Wed, Aug 14

Apahce+Mod_SSL Dies Unexpectedly On First Form Submit

2002-08-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Whenver I restart Apache and submit an SSL form for the first time, I get the following error on the browser: <<< An error occured while loading https://localhost/seminars/admin/clubs/new/add.cgi: The process for the https://localhost protocol died unexpectedly. >>> The next time I submit the

Re: Raanaa Instalation Party

2002-08-15 Thread Eliran
> may come, or may come to help ? ;) Help with selling, or help with installing ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAI

Re: Orange/Walla down

2002-08-15 Thread Barak Kaufman
Apparently the site that i provided earlier stopped working (either only with orange or at all), it did work up to 4 days ago. sorry for the inconvenience. On Wednesday 14 August 2002 11:29, Barak Kaufman wrote: > without "+" > should be 97254234567 > > On Wednesday 14 August 2002 04:39, Alon Al

Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes

2002-08-15 Thread Eli Marmor
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Aviram, > > I would strongly suggest that your company will buy through eBay - TONS of > hardware at unbelivable low prices. I would love to do it myself. *IF* it was practical. Unfortunately, it is not practical to buy a UNIX workstation from an unknown and foreign own