Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: Hi people, Today I had a meeting with people at a software company. We talked about Linux, and they said that today there are versions of Linux which are not Free Software. That is true. The moment Linux means A Linux distribution, there is nothing stopping you from

Re: Fedora core 5 burn problems.

2006-07-27 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 10:58, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: --0-2014809872-1153900712=:56848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I am trying to set up fedora core 5. i have downloaded the images from two different sources, burned them on two

Re: Fedora core 5 burn problems.

2006-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:39:13AM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: I had very similiar problems - couldn't manage to burn CDs that would pass the CD test. I finally gave up and risked using the CDs anyway. I had no problems with the installations using the disks which failed the tests.

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:24:28AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Uri Even-Chen wrote: Hi people, Today I had a meeting with people at a software company. We talked about Linux, and they said that today there are versions of Linux which are not Free Software. That is true. The moment

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Thu, 27 Jul: They said that you buy a license for each computer, and it's not legal to use it without a license. They referred specifically to Red Hat. Actually, RedHat are free, last time I checked. Either the company or its local subsidiery (I

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Thu, 27 Jul: I talked to a rep a few months ago, and he told me I can't e.g. purchase a license (or subscription, or whatever it's called) for one year, install a machine with it, then continue using it for more than one year, because of this

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: I talked to a rep a few months ago, and he told me I can't e.g. purchase a license (or subscription, or whatever it's called) for one year, install a machine with it, then continue using it for more than one year, because of this trademark thing. That's false, and

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:52:20AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: One substance. He wants to make money. That's for sure. :-) Every indication I have (and i did consult a lawyer) shows that they cannot stop you from writing Derived from RedHat Linux, however, assuming it is true. You cannot

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:25:50AM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: And this very definition might be quite significant regarding what you can or can't do with the software. Isn't it? I talked to a rep a few months ago, and he told me I can't e.g. purchase a license (or subscription, or

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Thank you, all, for your reply. that's an effective PR machine that spreads misinformation and FUD. even the people here on the list get confused. It's embarrasing to admit that until 5 minutes ago, I had no idea what FUD is. So I checked at [http://www.answers.com/FUD]. Here's what I got

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 7/27/06, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're confusing free as in the GPL and free as in beer. The GPL does not restrict people from charging for their products, it requires that if you release the source code for them. But is it or is it not legal to install the binary

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: On 7/27/06, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're confusing free as in the GPL and free as in beer. The GPL does not restrict people from charging for their products, it requires that if you release the source code for them. But is it or is it not legal

OLS 2006 recordings

2006-07-27 Thread Michael Vasiliev
Hello all, I believe these might interest some of you. OLS 2006 recordings, courtesy of Shawn Starr. http://christian-leber.de/~ijuz/ols2006.torrent -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev This door is baroquen, please wiggle Handel. (If I wiggle Handel, will it wiggle Bach?) --

Re: OLS 2006 recordings

2006-07-27 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:36:22PM +0300, Michael Vasiliev wrote: Hello all, I believe these might interest some of you. OLS 2006 recordings, courtesy of Shawn Starr. http://christian-leber.de/~ijuz/ols2006.torrent Since you mentioned it, proceedings are at

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:51:20AM +0300, Uri Even-Chen wrote: On 7/27/06, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But is it or is it not legal to install the binary (compiled) version on more computers without a license? GPL should be free, also when using the binary form of the

Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:14:50PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: They cannot, in actuality. First of all, it is a GPL violation to modify the kernel in such a way. Section 6: Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a

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2006-07-27 Thread Dukhan, Meir
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Re: Are there non-free versions of Linux?

2006-07-27 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 7/27/06, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uri Even-Chen wrote: They may also include technical means to prevent people from installing it without a license (such as activation in Windows XP). They cannot, in actuality. First of all, it is a GPL violation to modify the kernel

Re: OLS 2006 recordings

2006-07-27 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On Thursday July 27 2006 12:50, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Since you mentioned it, proceedings are at http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/proceedings.php. The organizers also asked the presenters to send their slides, so those should show up on the site sometime too. I check them on daily basis.

websphere and Fedora core 5.

2006-07-27 Thread Nzer Zaidenberg
Hello I am trying to set up the latest version of WAS trail on FC5. I have downloaded WAS from IBM few days ago. it's version 6.1 WAS has a web-based installer. When i click on the Launch wesphere application server trail link nothing happens. copying the shortcut reveals its a link to

Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages

2006-07-27 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 24 July 2006 15:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: even FSF has a list of software packages (at http://directory.fsf.org/). Except I was never able to figure out what is this a list OF. It has only 4,300 enteries, so it cannot possibly presume to be complete. On the

Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages

2006-07-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shlomi Fish wrote: 1. It is edited by a few editors (possibly even one) with some submissions from the public. 2. Sometimes the editors find a package themselves and add it there, after sending an email to the creator with clarifications. Which doesn't explain how rsyncrypto made it there.

Re: SpamAssassin eating up my CPU

2006-07-27 Thread Henry Ficher
--Boundary_(ID_xwPbwSwhBJ/mhXVGHevZ3A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ideas to get the load lower? dspam any good? I think I asked that before, but everything I implemented is still not helping much. I'll feel really annoyed if I

xorg.conf he brew question

2006-07-27 Thread Gil Freund
Hi, I have the following in xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us,il

Re: xorg.conf he brew question

2006-07-27 Thread Meir Kriheli
Gil Freund wrote: Hi, I have the following in xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option

Re: xorg.conf he brew question

2006-07-27 Thread Gil Freund
On 7/27/06, Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Freund wrote: Hi, I have the following in xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86

Re: xorg.conf he brew question

2006-07-27 Thread ik
On 7/27/06, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/27/06, Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Freund wrote: Hi, I have the following in xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard

Re: xorg.conf he brew question

2006-07-27 Thread Gil Freund
On 7/27/06, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/27/06, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/27/06, Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Freund wrote: Hi, I have the following in xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver