RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-17 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] 2) Enforceability - while legal action against junk fax spammers is enforceable due to the way POTS networks are build, it is not so in the chaos of All Internet. Spammers get nailed mostly due to their

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread linux_il
From: Arik Baratz I beg to differ. Robbers know that what they are doing is not When was the last time you got a spam from the true address? Why would they do that unless they wanted to try to cover their tracks. They would then proceed to claim that the police force is an organized group

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
Regarding spam, One has the right for privacy, including his e-mail address. One who gains an e-mail address against the will, or without the knowing, of the owner is breaking the law. (I'm not a lawyer, I just felt like putting it out that way :) On Monday 16 June 2003 17:15, you wrote:

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:32 PM [snip] Regarding spam, One has the right for privacy, including his e-mail address. One who gains an e-mail address against the will, or without the knowing, of the

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Arik Baratz, from the post of Mon, 16 Jun: I again beg to differ. please stop splitting infinitives and stop this silly thread. it's very off topic. -- Smiting fools with clue-by-four since 1817 Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 05:32:56PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote: Regarding spam, One has the right for privacy, including his e-mail address. One who gains an e-mail address against the will, or without the knowing, of the owner is breaking the law. (I'm not a lawyer, I just felt

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] I beg to differ. Spammers know EXACTLY what they are doing. Spammers are perfectly aware that what they're doing is not legit. Spammers do have conferences and training, spammers employ more or less

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Mix Sella
On Monday 16 June 2003 17:48, Arik Baratz wrote: -Original Message- From: Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:32 PM [snip] Regarding spam, One has the right for privacy, including his e-mail address. One who gains an e-mail address

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Mix Sella
On Monday 16 June 2003 18:02, Arik Baratz wrote: -Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] I beg to differ. Spammers know EXACTLY what they are doing. Spammers are perfectly aware that what they're doing is not legit. Spammers do have conferences

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Let's try the real-world example of you posting your address on a buletin board for, say, giving private lessons. Bad analogy. A local bulletin board is not the vast searchable space of All Internet.

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] It does. Spamming is fraud, theft and trespassing (NANAE rule #0: Spam is theft). That it's not outlawed doesn't make it any less fraud, theft and trespassing. Spammers know people don't want them to do it

Re: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread Mix Sella
On Monday 16 June 2003 19:00, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Mix Sella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [deletia] Should read: an ONLINE buletin board What's not fine is someone taking this address (which you put in the public domain) You don't. Email address is not a