Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Steve Litt
Dotan Cohen said on Sun, 3 Mar 2024 19:31:12 +0200 >Debian, as an organization, has a public image that reflects the >sentiments of the people who make up that organization. Those people >have begun slandering the Jewish state. > >Debian is not conscious and can not support or oppose anything.

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
Debian, as an organization, has a public image that reflects the sentiments of the people who make up that organization. Those people have begun slandering the Jewish state. Debian is not conscious and can not support or oppose anything. The people who compose of the organization are conscious,

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi, On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 09:21:37PM +0200, borissh1...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > A bit clueless question , but are there any legal implication of using > or supporting Debian now that the Debian Project Leader shared a call > for BDS ? Debian does not support (or oppose, or whatever)

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread borissh1983
Hi, As this question had been asked twice I had uploaded a screenshot https://ibb.co/hFcPrvB[1] of that action. In order to see that on his page one need to scroll a bit down , The text start with "Israel just bombed a tent city full of #refugees[1] who fled North #Gaza[2] for #Rafah[3] on

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I've gone over his feed and have not found any calls for BDS. Do you have a direct link? Shachar On 02/03/2024 21:21, borissh1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A bit clueless question , but are there any legal

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Marc Volovic (me)
IANAL, but the Israeli law is rather inimical to BDS and its derivates. I am not even going to consider what is the drift outside Israel, aince whatever the status is now, it will likely change significantly in the coming months (and not, I suspect, in Israel's favour). What the Israeli law do

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread borissh1983
Hi, While it is nice and fun to have a political discussion on how much the debian leader is wrong, and how it hurts FOSS in general. I'm asking, if we as people who work with debian or contribute to it would have a problem now in IL , US or DE. I for example train new developers and it

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Marc Volovic (me)
i suggest not starting down the route of the "who did more to whom" measuring. This is a yardstick measurement comoetitio  that Israel will not win, by any type of measurement. The "right" response would be a protest for bringing political discourse into the technical sphere (if this is indeed

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-03 Thread Omer Zak
OOPS, my mistake. In this case, I suggest: 1. Check if any Debian Developers (Israeli or non-Israeli) were killed by the Hamas on Oct. 7th. If yes, call for impeachment of Highvoltage on grounds of his betrayal of some Debian Developers. 2 Call out Highvoltage's ignoring of the atrocities

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-02 Thread Boris Shtrasman
The person who shared that post is Highvoltage (the Debian Project Leader) , it's posteed on Debian Project Leader page (but originally written by someone else). On Sunday, 3 March 2024 9:45:24 IST Omer Zak wrote: > I looked around the links and some Debian information. > I found no indication

Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?

2024-03-02 Thread Omer Zak
I looked around the links and some Debian information. I found no indication that the guy has any leadership role in Debian. He describes himself as "pro-Palestine, pro-Black, pro-Indigenous, pro- Queer, pro-létarian". Seems to me that someone, who is so busy with those identities, would not have