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STAROFFICE FREE TO DANISH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS
Sun Microsystems has added Denmark to the list of countries in which
its StarOffice software package will be made available free for
students. Deals had already been
See:
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=159610
According to the repoter (Yuval Dror) this is indeed extra support in
StarOffice and won't be included in OpenOffice.
Anybody here with more information?
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) this is indeed extra support in
StarOffice and won't be included in OpenOffice.
Anybody here with more information?
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Subject:Re: Hebrew support for staroffice (not OO) in 2003?
I don't know if IBM will give the code to the Open Office
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Dvir,
I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really
don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in
Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as
a text,
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Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Sending CVs in other formats (was: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew)
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Dvir,
I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really
don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in
Israel
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What about RTF?
Let me repeat my question: what tools can read/write RTF (English)
under Linux? StarOffice does, and KWord doesn't, AFAIK. Anything *but*
SO?
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If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet
On 14 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
What about RTF?
Let me repeat my question: what tools can read/write RTF (English)
under Linux? StarOffice does, and KWord doesn't, AFAIK. Anything *but*
SO?
looks like more things convert to rather than from, but here's a short
list I got you
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
now search freshmeat for more :)
I wonder if this is worthwhile. You gave a rather long list of tools
that don't do what I asked. Given that latex2rtf and rtf2latex don't
work at all (last time I checked - a few months ago - their
documentation even warned
Regarding Staroffice 5.2 installation, here are the details from the
book - I did it and it worked well. Note my comments below.
[begin quote]
Installation Overview:
You'll be installing StarOffice on the server, then running a setup
file that gets installed on the server, to install
Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
- does it import Hebrew winWord?
Answer: yes!
I think IBM deserves a big Shkoyech (cheers? thanks?) for the whole
project, even without this critical feature.
And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble
opinion. Just think about the
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002, Eli Marmor wrote about Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew:
- does it import Hebrew winWord?
Answer: yes!
..
And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble
opinion. Just think about the possibilities that this feature opens...
It opens
I also got hit with this when I tried installing staroffice.
Here is a tried-and-tested way of installing staroffice on your linux
machine in
a normal, unix-like way:
1. su to root
2. run the installation with the -net option, and install in (say)
/opt/staroffice6.0
(N.B. Ignore any components
Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on
newsforge on the subject, titled We can put an end to Word
attachments.
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238mode=thread
and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently.
Dvir Volk
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:
I always get people sending me emails with these kinds of formats. I try
to convince these people that the formats they are using are formats for
*editing*, and since I don't intend to edit the stuff they send me, they
should use some sort of hardcopy
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote:
Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on
newsforge on the subject, titled We can put an end to Word
attachments.
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238mode=thread
and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord
Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently.
I never managed as much as open Word documents (English) with KWord.
If I did, I would not have bothered with StarOffice, most probably...
Incidentally, what is the best Linux tool
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It opens the possibility that now that you can finally read Hebrew Word
files, some annoying Microsoft-addict will send you a Hebrew Powerpoint,
MS-Project, or whatever kind of file that you still cannot read ;)
Or, as reported on /. recently, a ZIP
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002, Eli Marmor wrote about Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew:
- does it import Hebrew winWord?
Answer: yes!
..
And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble
opinion. Just think about the possibilities
and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents
rather decently.
interesting. it seems like anything I try to load on it (not just
Hebrew) explodes, it's not even beta grade. does it save as
word at all?
because if it saves only as kword, it's not very useful for businesses
yet
Hi Dvir,
I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really
don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in
Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as
a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department
]
Subject: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Hi Dvir,
I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic
and I really
don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real
world here in
Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying
to send my CV as
a text
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Dvir,
I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really
don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in
Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as
a text, HTML
Thanks,
Uri
http://translation.israel.net
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
What about RTF?
It generally takes more place (due to a very inefficient encoding of
hebrew. Something in the lines of quoted-printable) but it is readable by
any decent word processor (word95/7/0/xp,
IBM Israel
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To:Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM@IBMIL, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
2 more questions:
1. fonts: Do I need to have my fonts from my
Tzafrir Cohen wrote (referring to Bidi support in the word processor of
Open Office):
I see there that bidi support is part of a greater thing called CTL
(Complext Text Layout , support for any language that is more complecated
than ascii ;-)), and according to that post it will take some time
files.
Err... I thought Sun did UNIX... Apparently, as Geoff Mendelson
pointed out to me on a few occasions, Sun is a *hardware* company.
Sun bought it from StarOffice, which did not UNIX but multiplatform.
A big interest of Sun, the one that motivated the purchase, was not
UNIX per se, nor
On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 13:47, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
CTL is just a nice acronym invented in the X/Open circles to designate
several languages with special presentation requirements. As far as I
remember, it covers Arabic, Hebrew and Thai. There is not much similarity
between the
Ilya,
It's too late to put it in right now - the release deadline if I'm not
mistaken is around March (at least Sun will release it as Star Office
6.0)...
Hetz
On Friday 11 January 2002 17:57, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 13:47, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
CTL is just a
if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs.
I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org
Schlomo
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From: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Is there an Israeli mirror
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs.
I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org
is anyone concerned with legalities of their actions in this country
anymore?
http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/starofficenow/index.html
Please note
Ira Abramov wrote:
anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it
in December?
What December? The following? I believe they will meet this promise.
But you should wait 11 months before being sure...
;-)
[you know; software business... All of us have difficulties in
Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office):
anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it
in December?
The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed
on time and has been made available for testing internally to IBM
employees. The
, we can interrogate Mati in the
meantime :)
- is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice?
- does it import Hebrew winWord?
- is the support only for the wordproc or also for the presentation and
other tools?
- is it for editing AND interface (menus) or can I mix and match
I am not sure what I am allowed to say before the legal patrol comes to
arrest me. Anyway, as long as it (or I) last...
Ira Abramov asked:
- is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice?
Answer: OpenOffice
- does it import Hebrew winWord?
Answer: yes!
- is the support only
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
StarOffice users of Israel, please tell me what have I screwed up?
At the risk of increasing noise with an evident addition - I didn't
find anything useful in the docs.
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If it ain't broken, it has not got
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Never mind, I downloaded SO5.2 from www.sun.com, and ran the
setup (as root) on a RH7.1.
The setup prompted me for a directory to install StarOffice
components in, so I chose /usr/local/lib/office52 which seemed
appropriate to me. The installation proceeded
Adi Stav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It needs to be run as the same user who installed it and who owns its
files.
Err... I thought Sun did UNIX... Apparently, as Geoff Mendelson
pointed out to me on a few occasions, Sun is a *hardware* company.
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If it
2 more questions:
1. fonts: Do I need to have my fonts from my Windows partition or does IBM
contributes some fonts?
2. which Hebrew word files does it imports currently? Office 97, 2K and XP?
are there any known problems in the filters?
Thanks,
Hetz
Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root
and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there
was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root
install.
It was /net up
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office):
anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it
in December?
The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed
on time and has been made available
On 10 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root
and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there
was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
BTW: I saw some good reviews of recent OpenOffice builds.
well, I got and installed it today. indeed it lets only the installer
run it, obviously some serious design flaw. as for the binaries bunched
Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice?
Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found
an Italian RPM at
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html
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awhile in thought.
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice?
Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found
an Italian RPM at
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html
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Hi
Did any of you check on the freeware version, on www.openoffice.org, and
decided that it's not enough?
I havn't looked there myself (yet), but I was under the impression that
they released as freeware all of the latest closed-source (5.2?) version.
BTW, I
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:
Hi List,
Does anyone have a StarOffice 5.2 CD? I have downloaded SO5.2, but it
doesn't include the Schedule server, which is only on the CD.
Ordering the CD
Hi List,
Does anyone have a StarOffice 5.2 CD? I have downloaded SO5.2, but it
doesn't include the Schedule server, which is only on the CD.
Ordering the CD and paying $50 + $25 for shipping sounds like a waste of
money...
If anyone can lend me the CD or make a copy, I'd be grateful.
Thanks
That sort of ilegal this is not a warez list..
even if it's linux related...
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:
| Hi List,
|
| Does anyone have a StarOffice 5.2 CD? I have downloaded SO5.2, but it
| doesn't include
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From: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gavrie Philipson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 CD?
That sort of ilegal this is not a warez list..
even if it's linux related...
Illegal? How come
have a StarOffice 5.2 CD? I have downloaded SO5.2, but it
doesn't include the Schedule server, which is only on the CD.
Ordering the CD and paying $50 + $25 for shipping sounds like a waste of
money...
If anyone can lend me the CD or make a copy, I'd be grateful.
Thanks,
Gavrie
than Star, since
they are smaller.
interesting conclusion, I can't see how it was derivied. the size of the
code (which you don't know, because you didn't download for StarOffice
yet) has nothing to do with the complexity or extendability of the
wordprocessor's rendering engine's code
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 10:07:11AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i think the problem is not only adding bidi support,
but also adding/modifing the input filters so it can import hebrew
documents ( it will be a lot better if it could read MsWord format ... )
AbiWord opened hebrew Word
wrote:
Hi,
I have found a link on /. to the following article on ZDNet:
http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2604174,00.html
It seems, Sun will release StarOffice under the GNU Public license
"later this summer" (Sun's words). I wonder how easy or hard will it
be to hac
I think that we all together will code the hebrew support for office, it
will be not so hard..
all we need to do is to understand the engine (the hard part) and write the
addins for enjine that will support hebrew (the wasiest part, we can take
dov's algorythms for this)
Pavel Bibergal
.
And probably any of them is easier to add bidi support than Star, since
they are smaller.
interesting conclusion, I can't see how it was derivied. the size of the
code (which you don't know, because you didn't download for StarOffice
yet) has nothing to do with the complexity
Hi,
I have found a link on /. to the following article on ZDNet:
http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2604174,00.html
It seems, Sun will release StarOffice under the GNU Public license
"later this summer" (Sun's words). I wonder how easy or hard will it
be to hack the op
I heard that there was beta that supported hebrew.
Is it true ?
the 5.2 is the result of that beta ?
In the site i can only see other language supports and I assume that
there is some patch or the rumor is wrong.
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From my knowledge, it can read Hebrew office documents - but show them
in reverse (and there is no right-to-left support)
I checked with some people in Sun - no Star Office in hebrew is planned
unfortunately.
Ofcourse, Sun has stated that they will release the source code under
their SCSL -
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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Hebrew Support StarOffice 5.1
as fae as I know SO can't open hebrew word files cause they are totally
diffrent with added BIDI support
did they change it?
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
Have you considered Hebrew Lyx? You want have to write/read your Hebrew
writing in reverse and you will not have to search for the way to add page
numbers.
Although my experience with it is not good, mainly because I have to install
more fonts so that
People, does anybody know how to add a Hebrew TrueType fonts into
StarOffice5.1?
Pavel
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wrote:
| People, does anybody know how to add a Hebrew TrueType fonts into
| StarOffice5.1?
| Pavel
|
| StarOffice needs font metrics to work with fonts,
| since X protocol doesn't provide enough info about
| the font to do precise layouting.
|
| StarOffice can install and generate font
Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
| On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 12:31:43PM +0300, Pavel Bibergal wrote:
| People, does anybody know how to add a Hebrew TrueType fonts into
| StarOffice5.1?
| Pavel
|
| StarOffice needs
how to add a Hebrew TrueType fonts into
| StarOffice5.1?
| Pavel
|
| StarOffice needs font metrics to work with fonts,
| since X protocol doesn't provide enough info about
| the font to do precise layouting.
|
| StarOffice can install and generate font metrics for
| Type1
I'm installing the StarOffice RPM and got a message saying that the
package needs jre-old. Does anyone know what that is or if it's safe
to **ignore** the dependency?
My system is Mandrake 7.0.
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I'm installing the StarOffice RPM and got a message saying that the
package needs jre-old. Does anyone know what that is or if it's safe
to **ignore** the dependency?
My system is Mandrake 7.0.
//
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Shlomo Solomon wrote:
I'm installing the StarOffice RPM and got a message saying that the
package needs jre-old. Does anyone know what that is or if it's safe
to **ignore** the dependency?
My system is Mandrake 7.0.
//
Shlomo Solomon
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Hi,
Does anyone have the Linux version StarOffice 5.1a on CD? I have
downloaded StarOffice from the Sun website, but it doesn't include the
StarSchedule version -- that is only on the official CD.
If anyone has the CD, and can burn a copy for me, I'd appreciate it very
much.
Thanks,
Gavrie
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Does anyone in the Raanana area have a RedHat 6.1 disk and/or
StarOffice that I could borrow and/or burn ?
got RH6.1, or better yet, I have Mandrake too. want to bring a blank
media to the friday meeting? I'll be able to burn you a copy
Does anyone in the Raanana area have a RedHat 6.1 disk and/or
StarOffice that I could borrow and/or burn ?
TIA
//
Shlomo Solomon
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-Subject: sun staroffice and word documents
-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:29:57 +0200 (GMT+0200)
-
-I know that staroffice doesn't support hebrew yet, but does anyone
- know if
-it will load english documents writen with the hebrew
I know that staroffice doesn't support hebrew yet, but does anyone know if
it will load english documents writen with the hebrew version of word?
(I don't have word so I can't check it myself)
thanx
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hi guys and girls(are there any in this group???)
first of all sana-tova.
i've read all your replays to my original msg'.
but my question remains un-answered.
is there anyone that might make a copy of the disk for me (i'll send him an
empty cd).
looking for your answers,
alon kadury
with
microsoft documents. That the documents can be transfered across
platforms, And I heard that they are planning on developing hebrew support
soon, but I can't vouch on that.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote:
Don't you mean StarDivision's StarOffice?
Alon Kadury wrote:
hi
across
platforms, And I heard that they are planning on developing hebrew support
soon, but I can't vouch on that.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote:
Don't you mean StarDivision's StarOffice?
Alon Kadury wrote:
hi
does any one have sun's StarOffice for linux on CD
two problems:
1. It's not Open Source -- that means we won't be able, for example, to
help with Hebrew support unless we sell our soul to sun. Somebody please
correct me if this isn't true.
2. Sun is planning to take StarOffice apart and turn it into a
"thin-client" system. *This
(last one from me about this subject)
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Don't you mean StarDivision's StarOffice?
Alon Kadury wrote:
hi
does any one have sun's StarOffice for linux on CD, and is willing to make
me a copy (i'll send him a cd of course).
thanks,
alon kadury
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That's the same now. Like Compaq Altavista and AOL ICQ.
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mean StarDivision's StarOffice?
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does any one have sun's StarOffice for linux on CD, and is willing to make
me a copy (i'll send him a cd of course).
thanks,
alon kadury
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does any one have sun's StarOffice for linux on CD, and is willing to make
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Does someone know about Israeli mirror ?
I have the version for M.S. Windows if you like to get rid of the common
excuse "I must have the options to edit it in windows also".
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