[hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi, I am not hopeful to secure much of anything against the likes of NSA or GCHQ. However, my curiousity woke up when the latest NYT/Guardian/ProPublica pieces about NSA/GCHQ/friends compromising much of Internet encryption were accompanied by graphics like

Re: [hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2013/9/8 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org: Hi, I am not hopeful to secure much of anything against the likes of NSA or GCHQ. However, my curiousity woke up when the latest NYT/Guardian/ProPublica pieces about NSA/GCHQ/friends compromising much of Internet encryption were accompanied by

Re: [hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread Aviram Jenik
I'm only taking a wild guess here. To be clear, I have no inside knowledge and my guess is probably as good as anyone else's. But if I had to bet this is where I would put my money. Either: 1. They have a 0-day against SSH (e.g. if you have ssh running they can login to your box) 2. They are

Re: [hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2013/9/8 Aviram Jenik avi...@jenik.com: I'm only taking a wild guess here. To be clear, I have no inside knowledge and my guess is probably as good as anyone else's. But if I had to bet this is where I would put my money. Either: 1. They have a 0-day against SSH (e.g. if you have ssh

Re: [hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread ronys
The algorithm itself is the least of your worries. In modern cryptography, key management is the preferred target. With regards to ssh, this means the key negotiation phase of the protocol handshake. Using your own keys of reasonable size, and managing them properly, is your best bet for

Re: [hopefully on topic] is SSH secure in default configuration?

2013-09-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aviram Jenik avi...@jenik.com writes: The question is encryption ABC safe is nowadays a purely academic question and only academics care about them (no offense Oleg). None taken[*]. I re-read my post and I see now that I didn't emphasize that I meant OpenSSH implementation of AES when I wrote