Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you considered switching to SpamAssassin, SpamBayes, bogofilter or whatever? I'm using SpamAssassin, with some custom tweaks of the scores, etc. and I'm very happy with it. Those are activated upstream from me. I filter what get through. Yes, but all such legitimate E-mails sent to the mailing list are ham according to the distinguishing factor between spam and ham. There's no reason to try and filter their messages according to the spam filters. By all means all such messages are not unsolicited bulk E-mail. I never said they were. I still filter them. One man's spam is another's reduced signal-to-noise ratio. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
On Monday 07 November 2005 22:52, Orna Agmon wrote: DEAR SHLOMI, MY NAME IS MS ORNA AGMON. I wanted to inform you that the Nigerian scam already has a special folder in my spam folder, and that my spam filter claims that you got your text a bit wrong. What is your spam filter if I may be prudent enough to ask? Why don't you whitelist mail from mailing list which you know that are subscribers-only? You are cross posting in order to publically ask the public to create a fraud of the bank? This is not a fraud. I was trying to get a private loan. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is your spam filter if I may be prudent enough to ask? I don't see how it is prudent, I think it is rather impudent. FWIW, mine, in addition to what the ISP, the aliasing services, and the server where my main accounts are hosted provide, is a proprietary set of rather complicated rules coded in lisp, plus a set of simpler procmail rules, plus the gnus' extensive scoring facility. Is that of any help? By the way, apparently they ate your original post quite successfully. Why don't you whitelist mail from mailing list which you know that are subscribers-only? Why should anyone treat every subscriber to a mailing list the same? Some are irritating flamers, some tend to post off-topic nonsense, some provide a wealth of interesting information - all on the same mailing list. Now, I am reading this on Linux-IL, and this is the only reason I care to reply to it, since I am not subscribed to the other lists in Cc. Can anyone enlighten me regarding how exactly this topic is related to the technical side of Linux? Whoever cares to continue this thread - please don't cross-post to Linux-IL - thank you. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
This is not a fraud. I was trying to get a private loan. On a public mailing list. Now don't get me wrong, I have no problem with your way of reaching your friends... but generally asking for money, and especially when it's for a private endevour, is better done more discreetly. I doubt you had much success? I had a personal problem with your post because on one hand, I wanted to turn into the flamer in me and teach you a lesson and on the other, hey, why should I care about one post to the list from a regular member which is private and self-serving? You stated it is and I may send a private email here as well one day. Your choice of sending it here is questionable at best and might have best gone without comment, instead, people humoured you and tried to help by offering alternatives. You should expect at least some back-lash for taking on a 419-er look, whatever the true intention is. It was stupid, imo, but I wish you all the best. Let us ALL stop discussing it now. Gadi. -- My blog: http://blogs.securiteam.com/?author=6 The third principle of sentient life is the capacity for self-sacrifice --- the conscious ability to override evolution and self-preservation for a cause, a friend, a loved one. -- Draal, A Voice in the Wilderness, Babylon 5. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Israel.pm] Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
I don't understand why we're giving Shlomi here a hard time. This is to benefit all of us. Good. Some (most?) of us can't help with the money, but that doesn't mean we can be rude. -mike = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 17:12, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is your spam filter if I may be prudent enough to ask? I don't see how it is prudent, I think it is rather impudent. FWIW, mine, in addition to what the ISP, the aliasing services, and the server where my main accounts are hosted provide, is a proprietary set of rather complicated rules coded in lisp, plus a set of simpler procmail rules, plus the gnus' extensive scoring facility. Is that of any help? By the way, apparently they ate your original post quite successfully. I see. %-) Have you considered switching to SpamAssassin, SpamBayes, bogofilter or whatever? I'm using SpamAssassin, with some custom tweaks of the scores, etc. and I'm very happy with it. Why don't you whitelist mail from mailing list which you know that are subscribers-only? Why should anyone treat every subscriber to a mailing list the same? Some are irritating flamers, some tend to post off-topic nonsense, some provide a wealth of interesting information - all on the same mailing list. Yes, but all such legitimate E-mails sent to the mailing list are ham according to the distinguishing factor between spam and ham. There's no reason to try and filter their messages according to the spam filters. By all means all such messages are not unsolicited bulk E-mail. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005, Orna Agmon wrote about Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations: DEAR SHLOMI, MY NAME IS MS ORNA AGMON. I wanted to inform you that the Nigerian scam already has a special folder in my spam folder, and that my spam filter claims that you got your text a bit wrong. Indeed. I suggest you go to the next Annual Nigerian Email Conference to learn how to make your mails more convincing. The previous conference, which you can see in http://j-walk.com/other/conf/, discussed such enlightening issues as The effectiveness of using all UPPERCASE characters. :-) But seriously now, please see the *serious* reply I sent you in hackers-il on how you can actually do what you want in a more reasonable way. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Nov 8 2005, 6 Heshvan 5766 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |ech`echo xiun|tr nu oc|sed http://nadav.harel.org.il |'sx\([sx]\)\([xoi]\)xo un\2\1 is xg'`ol = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
Try using http://www.litrom.com/ They let you ask for donations payable by Israeli credit cards, and with no deposit. Alon On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi good people! Throughout the years I have created (and still am creating) many useful and free-as-in-speech digital resources: open source software, a home site with many resources, presentations about various topics (including Perl for Perl Newbies), essays, articles and fictitious stories. I placed them all on the web for anyone to enjoy and learn from, without asking for anything in return. I enjoy doing that and plan to continue doing that. However, I also would like to start seeing some monetary benefit. For this, I decided to add a PayPal donation button to my sites, so people can donate money for me in exchange for benefiting from the fruits of my labour. In order to accept credit cards donations PayPal requires two things: 1. An international credit card. 2. An account in a U.S. bank. I recently opened an account at FIBI and they told me that in order to get an international credit card I need to reserve 15,000 NIS. I don't have this kind of money at the moment, and since I need a PayPal account to collect it, I have a chicken and egg problem. But I figured out a way to resolve it. If you feel that you know me well and that my work is worthy, please consider giving me a personal loan of several 1,000's NIS. I will use it to set up my PayPal account and to eventually gather enough money to pay it back. (Possibly with some interest). Thanks in advance, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/saFolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 GPG public key at http://8ln.org/pubkey.txt Key fingerprint = A670 6C81 19D3 3773 3627 DE14 B44A 50A3 FE06 7F24 -- -=[ Random Fortune ]=- Time is the most valuable thing a man can spend. -- Theophrastus = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
DEAR SHLOMI, MY NAME IS MS ORNA AGMON. I wanted to inform you that the Nigerian scam already has a special folder in my spam folder, and that my spam filter claims that you got your text a bit wrong. You are cross posting in order to publically ask the public to create a fraud of the bank? This is a new record. Orna. On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Shlomi Fish wrote: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:30:15 +0200 From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-IL linux-il@linux.org.il, Hackers-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perl in Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations Hi good people! Throughout the years I have created (and still am creating) many useful and free-as-in-speech digital resources: open source software, a home site with many resources, presentations about various topics (including Perl for Perl Newbies), essays, articles and fictitious stories. I placed them all on the web for anyone to enjoy and learn from, without asking for anything in return. I enjoy doing that and plan to continue doing that. However, I also would like to start seeing some monetary benefit. For this, I decided to add a PayPal donation button to my sites, so people can donate money for me in exchange for benefiting from the fruits of my labour. In order to accept credit cards donations PayPal requires two things: 1. An international credit card. 2. An account in a U.S. bank. I recently opened an account at FIBI and they told me that in order to get an international credit card I need to reserve 15,000 NIS. I don't have this kind of money at the moment, and since I need a PayPal account to collect it, I have a chicken and egg problem. But I figured out a way to resolve it. If you feel that you know me well and that my work is worthy, please consider giving me a personal loan of several 1,000's NIS. I will use it to set up my PayPal account and to eventually gather enough money to pay it back. (Possibly with some interest). Thanks in advance, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/saFolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Orna. -- Orna Agmon http://ladypine.org/ http://haifux.org/~ladypine/ ICQ: 348759096 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 22:52 +0200, Orna Agmon wrote: DEAR SHLOMI, MY NAME IS MS ORNA AGMON. [snip] Orna. Dear Mz. Agmon, What a horrid and nasty post you made. You absolutely lack ANY sense of humour, human and human feelings as well as even an inkling of the rediculous. Can you not get it in your head that Shlomi, is promoting the cause of free-range chickens, defending their poor brethren rights, protesting their distreatment with the heANDS OF NASTI AND HORRIBLE PEOPL WHO RAIZE CHIKINS IN REAL SMALL CAGES WHERE MY FATHER WHO WAS THE MINISTER OF OIL PRODUCTION IN OUR GLORIOUS CUNTRY WAS MURDERED BY THE DEPRAVED MERCERNAIES IMPORETED FROM IZREAL BY THE FASCUITIC PRES. SESESCLUCK. HOW EVER MY FATHER HAS SEKVESTRED $16,750,962.23 (SIXTEEN MILLION, SEVEN HUNDRT, NEIN HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO US DOLARS AND TWENTY-THREE CENTS) IN AN UNNUMBERED ACCOUNT IN THE BANK OF OUR CUNTRY. I LIKE TO SHARE THA STASH WITH YOU IF YOU ONLY SEND ME A BIG BOX MADE OF EGG CONTAINERS AND A SMALL TICKET TO BORA-BORA, BUISNES CLASS, PLEZ. From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] would like to start seeing some monetary benefit. For this, I decided to add a PayPal donation button to my sites, so people can [snip] I have a chicken and egg problem. But I figured out a way to resolve it. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hackers-il] Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations
Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi good people! Throughout the years I have created (and still am creating) many useful and free-as-in-speech digital resources: open source software, a home site with many resources, presentations about various topics (including Perl for Perl Newbies), essays, articles and fictitious stories. I placed them all on the web for anyone to enjoy and learn from, without asking for anything in return. I enjoy doing that and plan to continue doing that. However, I also would like to start seeing some monetary benefit. For this, I decided to add a PayPal donation button to my sites, so people can donate money for me in exchange for benefiting from the fruits of my labour. In order to accept credit cards donations PayPal requires two things: 1. An international credit card. 2. An account in a U.S. bank. I recently opened an account at FIBI and they told me that in order to get an international credit card I need to reserve 15,000 NIS. I don't have this kind of money at the moment, and since I need a PayPal account to collect it, I have a chicken and egg problem. But I figured out a way to resolve it. If you feel that you know me well and that my work is worthy, please consider giving me a personal loan of several 1,000's NIS. I will use it to set up my PayPal account and to eventually gather enough money to pay it back. (Possibly with some interest). Is this a phishing email? Gadi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]