Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-04 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:30:14PM -0700, Mike Castle wrote: > Some patches, such as the RAID patches, sets up EXTRAVERSION to a specific > value. - If you apply such a patch first, and after that you edit EXTRAVERSION, your value will be used - no problem. - If you edit EXTRAVERSION before app

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Ben Ford
J . A . Magallon wrote: > On 04.03 Ben Ford wrote: > >> J . A . Magallon wrote: >> >>> If this has not been done for System.map, that is a much more important >>> info for debug and oops, and the de facto standard is to put it aside >>> kernel with some standadr naming, lets use the same method

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:18PM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote: > Just like the Alan Cox for 2.4 or Andrea Arcangeli for 2.2. Lets say you > have 2.4.2-ac27. For each of your compiles, set EXTRAVERSION to -ac27-bf1, > -ac27-bf2, etc. Your files will be: Some patches, such as the RAID patches, s

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
> That would be great and all, but can you tell me how to do it when I > have 3 or 4 different compiles of the same kernel version? Each compile you do already gets assigned a version #, if thats not enough then add your own id string - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe l

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 04.03 Ben Ford wrote: > J . A . Magallon wrote: > > > > If this has not been done for System.map, that is a much more important > > info for debug and oops, and the de facto standard is to put it aside > > kernel with some standadr naming, lets use the same method for config. > > > That woul

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Ben Ford
J . A . Magallon wrote: > On 04.03 David Lang wrote: > >> if the distro/sysadmin _always_ installs the kernel the 'right way' then >> the difference isn't nessasarily that large, but if you want reliability >> on any system it may be worth loosing a page or so of memory (hasn't >> someone said t

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
> method) have these dependencies checked by insmod? It would be simply > smashing to have it all inherently bullet proof. (i know never say never, but > lower maintenance then or simpler for users or something) The goal of modversions is to do this. It isnt perfect. Keith Owens was talking abou

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 04.03 David Lang wrote: > > if the distro/sysadmin _always_ installs the kernel the 'right way' then > the difference isn't nessasarily that large, but if you want reliability > on any system it may be worth loosing a page or so of memory (hasn't > someone said that the data can be compressed

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Alan Cox wrote: > > a module for 2.4.3 will work for any 2.4.3 kernel that supports modules > > at all (except for the SMP vs UP issue) so it's not the same thing as > > trying to figure out which if the 2.4.3 kernels matches what you are > > running. > > Nope. The 2.4 kernel ABI depends upon a m

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
> a module for 2.4.3 will work for any 2.4.3 kernel that supports modules > at all (except for the SMP vs UP issue) so it's not the same thing as > trying to figure out which if the 2.4.3 kernels matches what you are > running. Nope. The 2.4 kernel ABI depends upon a mixture of config options inc

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Olaf Titz
> a module for 2.4.3 will work for any 2.4.3 kernel that supports modules > at all (except for the SMP vs UP issue) so it's not the same thing as No, no, no. This is absolutely and dangerously wrong. A module depends on the kernel configuration, because it may access internal data structures of

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 05:39:19PM -0700, David Lang wrote: > > if the distro/sysadmin _always_ installs the kernel the 'right way' then > the difference isn't nessasarily that large, but if you want reliability > on any system it may be worth loosing a page or so of memory (hasn't > someone said

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread David Lang
, 02 Apr 2001 20:49:09 -0400 > From: Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jeremy Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Ian Soboroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: /proc/config idea > > Jeremy Jackson wrote: > > If you have a lot of kernels

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeremy Jackson wrote: > If you have a lot of kernels around, which Config-2.4.3 applies to kernel 2.4.3 > given 5 to choose from...the idea (same for System.map) is that it being in the > same > file they can't be confused. Kinda like forks under Mac (but let's not go there > now) The same appli

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread David Lang
g On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:23:28 -0400 > From: Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jeremy Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Ian Soboroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: /proc/config idea >

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Jeff Garzik wrote: > Jeremy Jackson wrote: > > Yes, I like this. I do this manually, it allows reproducability, and > > incremental > > modifications, tracing how that kernel on that problem system was made... > > > > I think the ultimate would be to put all of .config (gzipped?) in a new ELF >

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeremy Jackson wrote: > Yes, I like this. I do this manually, it allows reproducability, and > incremental > modifications, tracing how that kernel on that problem system was made... > > I think the ultimate would be to put all of .config (gzipped?) in a new ELF > section without the Loadable at

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Bart Trojanowski
I see benefit in having the .config file in the kernel. It being a non loadable elf section would be a plus. However I also see merit to having it available as a proc entry. Say that we decide to go with /proc/config. In that case I think that Jeremy is right on with the compressing of the in

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Brian Gerst
Jeremy Jackson wrote: > > Ian Soboroff wrote: > > > [sorry this doesn't have proper References: headers, i read the list > > off the hypermail archive.] > > > > there was some discussion of whether the kernel should emit a > > /proc/config or some such for purposes of bug reporting, but that > >

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Ian Soboroff wrote: > [sorry this doesn't have proper References: headers, i read the list > off the hypermail archive.] > > there was some discussion of whether the kernel should emit a > /proc/config or some such for purposes of bug reporting, but that > seems to be a lot of bloat. > > instead,

/proc/config idea

2001-04-02 Thread Ian Soboroff
[sorry this doesn't have proper References: headers, i read the list off the hypermail archive.] there was some discussion of whether the kernel should emit a /proc/config or some such for purposes of bug reporting, but that seems to be a lot of bloat. instead, why not try to point to a canonic