Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: > Dan Hollis wrote: > > See Rowan v. United States Post Office. > Why necessarily should I care about United States Post Office > or United States in general ? I suspect canadian law has similar precedents. > > *Your* right to free speech stops at *my*

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Matt Beland wrote: > On Sunday 07 January 2001 21:24, Dan Hollis wrote: > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological > > >

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:24:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological > > > barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Beland
On Sunday 07 January 2001 21:24, Dan Hollis wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological > > barriers to a minority expressing speech that

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:24:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological > > barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the > > majority. This is not acceptable. > > See

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dmitri Pogosyan
Even not specifically disagreeing, but Dan Hollis wrote: > > See Rowan v. United States Post Office. Why necessarily should I care about United States Post Office or United States in general ? > > > *Your* right to free speech stops at *my* property. > > Under no circumstances does your right

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological > barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the > majority. This is not acceptable. See Rowan v. United States Post Office. *Your* right to free speech stops

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:30:14PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:22:28PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > I already run several sugarplum sites with teergrubes. I also use > > various blackhole lists and take other action against spammers, including > >

[OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:22:28PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > I already run several sugarplum sites with teergrubes. I also use > various blackhole lists and take other action against spammers, including > blocking entire rogue domains. If that rogue domain happens to be a two >

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:31:11PM -0700, Matt Beland wrote: > Thereby killing how many hundreds of innocent people? China doesn't much > believe in fining minor offenders, remember. > You don't like Spam? Join the club. Blacklisting any domain - ANY domain - > for spamming, unless you can

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Beland
On Sunday 07 January 2001 18:22, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > > 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other > > > numbering .com or

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other > > numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of > >

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other > numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of > protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr > or .br.

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other > numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of > protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr > or .br. I'm fully in favor of

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:03:19AM +0100, Pedro M. Rodrigues wrote: >Lucky b*st*rd! ;-) My spam is mostly from USA. Just deleted 78 > of those, and only 7 seemed to be from abroad. I wish i could block > .com ... ;-) 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other

[OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Pedro M. Rodrigues
Lucky b*st*rd! ;-) My spam is mostly from USA. Just deleted 78 of those, and only 7 seemed to be from abroad. I wish i could block .com ... ;-) Pedro On 7 Jan 2001, at 17:53, John O'Donnell wrote: > Only on my company's e-mail server. My company typically gets "zero" > emails from

[OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Pedro M. Rodrigues
Lucky b*st*rd! ;-) My spam is mostly from USA. Just deleted 78 of those, and only 7 seemed to be from abroad. I wish i could block .com ... ;-) Pedro On 7 Jan 2001, at 17:53, John O'Donnell wrote: Only on my company's e-mail server. My company typically gets "zero" emails from

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:03:19AM +0100, Pedro M. Rodrigues wrote: Lucky b*st*rd! ;-) My spam is mostly from USA. Just deleted 78 of those, and only 7 seemed to be from abroad. I wish i could block .com ... ;-) 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr or .br. I'm fully in favor of an

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr or .br. I'm

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of protestors and

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Beland
On Sunday 07 January 2001 18:22, Michael H. Warfield wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other numbering .com or .net.

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:31:11PM -0700, Matt Beland wrote: Thereby killing how many hundreds of innocent people? China doesn't much believe in fining minor offenders, remember. You don't like Spam? Join the club. Blacklisting any domain - ANY domain - for spamming, unless you can

[OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:22:28PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: I already run several sugarplum sites with teergrubes. I also use various blackhole lists and take other action against spammers, including blocking entire rogue domains. If that rogue domain happens to be a two

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:30:14PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:22:28PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: I already run several sugarplum sites with teergrubes. I also use various blackhole lists and take other action against spammers, including blocking

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the majority. This is not acceptable. See Rowan v. United States Post Office. *Your* right to free speech stops at

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dmitri Pogosyan
Even not specifically disagreeing, but Dan Hollis wrote: See Rowan v. United States Post Office. Why necessarily should I care about United States Post Office or United States in general ? *Your* right to free speech stops at *my* property. Under no circumstances does your right to

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:24:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the majority. This is not acceptable. See Rowan v.

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Beland
On Sunday 07 January 2001 21:24, Dan Hollis wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers to a minority expressing speech that is

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:24:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Matt Beland wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2001 21:24, Dan Hollis wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: Dan Hollis wrote: See Rowan v. United States Post Office. Why necessarily should I care about United States Post Office or United States in general ? I suspect canadian law has similar precedents. *Your* right to free speech stops at *my*