Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > On 4/22/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think we won't be able to make the transition in independent way >> due to unspecified meaning of the torques. >> > > With phantom it still seems doable - if I understand correctly ther is > one point of containct

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On 4/22/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/19/07, Dmitry Torokhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > > > If we are interested in using FF API we need to come up with a way > > > to express this effect

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Hi Jiri, On 4/23/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > For devices that require tailored application (for example that glove > - I am not sure how a generic application could control it) old > phantom way of controlling via ioctl will suffice. The device may >

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Hi Jiri, On 4/23/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): For devices that require tailored application (for example that glove - I am not sure how a generic application could control it) old phantom way of controlling via ioctl will suffice. The device may still

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On 4/22/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/07, Dmitry Torokhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): If we are interested in using FF API we need to come up with a way to express this effect without exposing

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-26 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): On 4/22/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we won't be able to make the transition in independent way due to unspecified meaning of the torques. With phantom it still seems doable - if I understand correctly ther is one point of containct and one

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-23 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > For devices that require tailored application (for example that glove > - I am not sure how a generic application could control it) old > phantom way of controlling via ioctl will suffice. The device may > still use input layer to report back coordinates. And how

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-23 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): For devices that require tailored application (for example that glove - I am not sure how a generic application could control it) old phantom way of controlling via ioctl will suffice. The device may still use input layer to report back coordinates. And how about

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-22 Thread Jiri Slaby
On 4/19/07, Dmitry Torokhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > > If we are interested in using FF API we need to come up with a way > > to express this effect without exposing implementation details of > > one particular

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-22 Thread Jiri Slaby
On 4/19/07, Dmitry Torokhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): If we are interested in using FF API we need to come up with a way to express this effect without exposing implementation details of one particular device.

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-19 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > I have been thinking about this and I don't think that exporting motor > data is a good idea, at least not in case of Phantom driver. The fact > that there are 3 motors is a hardware implementation detail and it > is

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-19 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): > I have been thinking about this and I don't think that exporting motor > data is a good idea, at least not in case of Phantom driver. The fact > that there are 3 motors is a hardware implementation detail and it > is not interesting for general application. Ok, so

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-19 Thread Jiri Slaby
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): I have been thinking about this and I don't think that exporting motor data is a good idea, at least not in case of Phantom driver. The fact that there are 3 motors is a hardware implementation detail and it is not interesting for general application. Ok, so what

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-19 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On 4/19/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a): I have been thinking about this and I don't think that exporting motor data is a good idea, at least not in case of Phantom driver. The fact that there are 3 motors is a hardware implementation detail and it is not

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Hi, On Thursday 19 April 2007 00:25, johann deneux wrote: > On 4/18/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > johann deneux napsal(a): > > > Jiri, > > > > > > Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we > > > last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread johann deneux
On 4/18/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: johann deneux napsal(a): > Jiri, > > Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we > last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then > combine several effects to achieve complex effects. I think you

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread Jiri Slaby
johann deneux napsal(a): > Jiri, > > Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we > last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then > combine several effects to achieve complex effects. I think you mean motor instead of axis, because I don't push

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread johann deneux
Jiri, Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then combine several effects to achieve complex effects. The implementation would specify the axis using the upper bits of the effect type. The patches you

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread johann deneux
Jiri, Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then combine several effects to achieve complex effects. The implementation would specify the axis using the upper bits of the effect type. The patches you

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread Jiri Slaby
johann deneux napsal(a): Jiri, Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then combine several effects to achieve complex effects. I think you mean motor instead of axis, because I don't push real

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread johann deneux
On 4/18/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: johann deneux napsal(a): Jiri, Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then combine several effects to achieve complex effects. I think you mean

Re: [RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-18 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Hi, On Thursday 19 April 2007 00:25, johann deneux wrote: On 4/18/07, Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: johann deneux napsal(a): Jiri, Which solution did you chose to implement? From what I remember, we last discussed Dmitry's idea of specifying an axis for an effect, then

[RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-17 Thread Jiri Slaby
So fellows, what about these ones? -- ff, add FF_RAW effect Add new FF_RAW effect for devices such Phantom. The new model has up to 6DOF torque force feedback independent on any 3d-or-so value. Signed-off-by: Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- commit 759e7f172031959f49e5d3a7282379e7d73621b3

[RFC 1/2] Input: ff, add FF_RAW effect

2007-04-17 Thread Jiri Slaby
So fellows, what about these ones? -- ff, add FF_RAW effect Add new FF_RAW effect for devices such Phantom. The new model has up to 6DOF torque force feedback independent on any 3d-or-so value. Signed-off-by: Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- commit 759e7f172031959f49e5d3a7282379e7d73621b3