Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-28 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Wright) writes: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:23:43PM +, Paul Jakma wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: > > > > > The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, > > > > in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, > > maybe 30 to 50MB/s.

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-28 Thread Tim Wright
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:23:43PM +, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: > > > The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, > > in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, > maybe 30 to 50MB/s. And you won't get sustained RAID performance > >

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-28 Thread Tim Wright
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:23:43PM +, Paul Jakma wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, maybe 30 to 50MB/s. And you won't get sustained RAID performance sustained PCI

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-28 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Wright) writes: On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:23:43PM +, Paul Jakma wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, maybe 30 to 50MB/s. And you won't

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread safemode
Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > > On IDE, you don't. IDE never supports hot-swap, RAID or no. If you want > that, use SCSI. That's not necessarily true. There is work in linux to support Tri-stating the ide devices with the help of a custom card that will allow one to cut power to a specific ide

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: > The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, maybe 30 to 50MB/s. And you won't get sustained RAID performance > sustained PCI performance. > Anyway, in clarification, Rik mentioned that two

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread Ruth Ivimey-Cook
At 11:29 PM 12/25/00, you wrote: >To verify that this is not an issue of the Promise controller, I started >two instances of my test tool at the same time, one working on hde, the >other on hdg (the two channels). Both yielded approximately 25 meg/sec, >so it does not appear to be a hardware or

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread Ruth Ivimey-Cook
At 11:29 PM 12/25/00, you wrote: To verify that this is not an issue of the Promise controller, I started two instances of my test tool at the same time, one working on hde, the other on hdg (the two channels). Both yielded approximately 25 meg/sec, so it does not appear to be a hardware or

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ian Stirling wrote: The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, in bursts yes, but sustained data bandwidth of PCI is a lot lower, maybe 30 to 50MB/s. And you won't get sustained RAID performance sustained PCI performance. Anyway, in clarification, Rik mentioned that two

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-27 Thread safemode
Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: On IDE, you don't. IDE never supports hot-swap, RAID or no. If you want that, use SCSI. That's not necessarily true. There is work in linux to support Tri-stating the ide devices with the help of a custom card that will allow one to cut power to a specific ide

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Ian Stirling wrote: > Where are you getting 100MB/s? > The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, but RAM is lots faster. I'll clarify your clarification further. :) Your typical PC has 33MHz 32-bit PCI. Increasing it to 66MHz or 64-bit can double the transfer rate, and doing both can quadruple it.

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Ian Stirling
> > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: > > Thus spake Rik van Riel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either > > > > one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering > > > > that the Promise controller

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: > Thus spake Rik van Riel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either > > > one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering > > > that the Promise controller claims to do

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: > Thus spake Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Here is the result of my test program on the strip set: > > # rb < /dev/md/0 > > 30.3 meg/sec > > # > > One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either > one of

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: Thus spake Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here is the result of my test program on the strip set: # rb /dev/md/0 30.3 meg/sec # One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either one of the disk or

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: Thus spake Rik van Riel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering that the Promise controller claims to do UDMA.

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Ian Stirling
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: Thus spake Rik van Riel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering that the Promise controller claims to do UDMA.

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-26 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Ian Stirling wrote: Where are you getting 100MB/s? The PCI bus can move around 130MB/sec, but RAM is lots faster. I'll clarify your clarification further. :) Your typical PC has 33MHz 32-bit PCI. Increasing it to 66MHz or 64-bit can double the transfer rate, and doing both can quadruple it.

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-25 Thread Andreas Dilger
Felix von Leitner writes: > I bought 4 ATA-100 Maxtor drives and put them on a Promise Ultra100 > controller to make a single striping RAID of them to increase > throughput. > > I wrote a small test program that simply reads stdin linearly and > displays the throughput. Here are the results of

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-25 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Here is the result of my test program on the strip set: > # rb < /dev/md/0 > 30.3 meg/sec > # One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering

Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-25 Thread Felix von Leitner
Hi, I bought 4 ATA-100 Maxtor drives and put them on a Promise Ultra100 controller to make a single striping RAID of them to increase throughput. I wrote a small test program that simply reads stdin linearly and displays the throughput. The block size is 100k. This is the result: # cat

Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-25 Thread Felix von Leitner
Hi, I bought 4 ATA-100 Maxtor drives and put them on a Promise Ultra100 controller to make a single striping RAID of them to increase throughput. I wrote a small test program that simply reads stdin linearly and displays the throughput. The block size is 100k. This is the result: # cat

Re: Abysmal RAID 0 performance on 2.4.0-test10 for IDE?

2000-12-25 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here is the result of my test program on the strip set: # rb /dev/md/0 30.3 meg/sec # One more detail: top says the CPU is 50% system when reading from either one of the disk or raid devices. That seems awfully high considering that