Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 11:16 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: On 8/30/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well -- the world where ATA, SCSI, USB, Firewire and what have you are low-level drivers to a unifying storage layer is under non too obscure definitions sort of not non-wonderful... USB /

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:16:46PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote: > USB / Firewire / FC / iSCSI are all SCSI transports and fit within the > SCSI subsystem by design. > > ie. Just like ethernet, DSL, T-1, etc can all carry IP traffic with no > conceptual conflict, many media by design carry SCSI

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/30/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 08/30/2007 09:31 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: > > >> Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support > >> for your IDE DVD-RW drive... > > > > Welcome to the wonderful world

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 09:31 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your IDE DVD-RW drive... Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA. (Don't talk about ATAPI, USB/Firewire, it's a

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:31:14PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA. (Don't talk about > ATAPI, USB/Firewire, it's a different matter.) I guess eventually all disks will appear the same, just like on BSD and many other systems (probably most other

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: >> Okay Rene, I activated SCSI CD-ROM support in kernel config and now all >> works again. It's strange, because I never used this option to get my DVD >> device on. > > Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for > your >

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: Okay Rene, I activated SCSI CD-ROM support in kernel config and now all works again. It's strange, because I never used this option to get my DVD device on. Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your IDE DVD-RW

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:31:14PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA. (Don't talk about ATAPI, USB/Firewire, it's a different matter.) I guess eventually all disks will appear the same, just like on BSD and many other systems (probably most other

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 09:31 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your IDE DVD-RW drive... Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA. (Don't talk about ATAPI, USB/Firewire, it's a

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/30/07, Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/30/2007 09:31 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your IDE DVD-RW drive... Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA.

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:16:46PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote: USB / Firewire / FC / iSCSI are all SCSI transports and fit within the SCSI subsystem by design. ie. Just like ethernet, DSL, T-1, etc can all carry IP traffic with no conceptual conflict, many media by design carry SCSI traffic.

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 11:16 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: On 8/30/07, Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well -- the world where ATA, SCSI, USB, Firewire and what have you are low-level drivers to a unifying storage layer is under non too obscure definitions sort of not non-wonderful... USB /

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/28/2007 02:44 AM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: Okay Rene, I activated SCSI CD-ROM support in kernel config and now all works again. It's strange, because I never used this option to get my DVD device on. Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/28/2007 02:44 AM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: Okay Rene, I activated SCSI CD-ROM support in kernel config and now all works again. It's strange, because I never used this option to get my DVD device on. Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-27 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
El Miércoles, 22 de Agosto de 2007 16:54, Rene Herman escribió: > José: do you have SCSI CD-ROM support compiled in? What are the ATA/SCSI > related messages in the output of "dmesg" when you compile with the > CONFIG_ATA_PIIX driver, SCSI disk and SCSI CD-ROM support (and nothing from > the old

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-27 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
El Miércoles, 22 de Agosto de 2007 16:54, Rene Herman escribió: José: do you have SCSI CD-ROM support compiled in? What are the ATA/SCSI related messages in the output of dmesg when you compile with the CONFIG_ATA_PIIX driver, SCSI disk and SCSI CD-ROM support (and nothing from the old IDE

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 06:23 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:48:52PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: He has a SATA harddrive and an IDE DVD drive. When he compiles with CONFIG_ATA_PIIX (a driver which advertises both SATA and PATA in its description) his drive works, his DVD does

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:48:52PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: > He has a SATA harddrive and an IDE DVD drive. When he compiles with > CONFIG_ATA_PIIX (a driver which advertises both SATA and PATA in its > description) his drive works, his DVD does not. Is that not the correct > driver? Does he

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 01:23 PM, Alan Cox wrote: The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue fixed. What issue ? From the report its quite simple - enable the correct CONFIG_ATA based drivers

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Alan Cox
> The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your > chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue > fixed. What issue ? >From the report its quite simple - enable the correct CONFIG_ATA based drivers and it should all work fine. - To

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Kiko Piris
On 22/08/2007 at 04:35 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: > The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your > chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue > fixed. I had the same issue when I compiled 2.6.22 on my T60 (SATA_AHCI drives my hd). I

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Kiko Piris
On 22/08/2007 at 04:35 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue fixed. I had the same issue when I compiled 2.6.22 on my T60 (SATA_AHCI drives my hd). I

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Alan Cox
The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue fixed. What issue ? From the report its quite simple - enable the correct CONFIG_ATA based drivers and it should all work fine. - To

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 01:23 PM, Alan Cox wrote: The old SATA driver available from the IDE menu also does not support your chip, so I don't believe there are any workarounds -- you'll need the issue fixed. What issue ? From the report its quite simple - enable the correct CONFIG_ATA based drivers

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:48:52PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: He has a SATA harddrive and an IDE DVD drive. When he compiles with CONFIG_ATA_PIIX (a driver which advertises both SATA and PATA in its description) his drive works, his DVD does not. Is that not the correct driver? Does he need

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 06:23 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:48:52PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: He has a SATA harddrive and an IDE DVD drive. When he compiles with CONFIG_ATA_PIIX (a driver which advertises both SATA and PATA in its description) his drive works, his DVD does

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 03:39 AM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: You have a SATA harddrive (Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 100GB SATA/2.5") and an IDE (also known as PATA) DVD drive (LG GMA-4082N). That is, your disk should be driven by the: "Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support" under the "Serial

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
El Miércoles, 22 de Agosto de 2007 00:08, Rene Herman escribió: > You have a SATA harddrive (Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 100GB SATA/2.5") and an > IDE (also known as PATA) DVD drive (LG GMA-4082N). That is, your disk > should be driven by the: > > "Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support" > >

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 01:00 AM, Alan Cox wrote: "Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support" Not for the newer chips. You want ATA/SATA (PIIX and possibly AHCI) support from the new drivers, SCSI disk and SCSI cd. That _is_ the *config description for the new (CONFIG_ATA_PIIX) driver (in

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Alan Cox
> "Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support" Not for the newer chips. You want ATA/SATA (PIIX and possibly AHCI) support from the new drivers, SCSI disk and SCSI cd. > where you may need to boot with a "libata.atapi_enabled=0" kernel parameter. Why deliberately disable atapi when you need

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/21/2007 09:49 PM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: Somebody tolds me that I can solve this problem unchecking the IDE_GENERIC option in the kernel configuration. It's true, but when I do this the DVD device is not recognized by the kernel. No exists. The OpenSuSE Live CD thing not booting

Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
Hi! I'm writing for you because i'm experiencing some serious problems with the IDE system on linux kernel 2.6.22 series, *I think* specifically with the module IDE_GENERIC. This is tested on all the 2.6.22 kernels (2.6.22, 2.6.22.1, 2.6.22.2, 2.6.22.3 and 2.6.22.4). Well, I'm using Debian

Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
Hi! I'm writing for you because i'm experiencing some serious problems with the IDE system on linux kernel 2.6.22 series, *I think* specifically with the module IDE_GENERIC. This is tested on all the 2.6.22 kernels (2.6.22, 2.6.22.1, 2.6.22.2, 2.6.22.3 and 2.6.22.4). Well, I'm using Debian

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/21/2007 09:49 PM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: Somebody tolds me that I can solve this problem unchecking the IDE_GENERIC option in the kernel configuration. It's true, but when I do this the DVD device is not recognized by the kernel. No exists. The OpenSuSE Live CD thing not booting

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Alan Cox
Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support Not for the newer chips. You want ATA/SATA (PIIX and possibly AHCI) support from the new drivers, SCSI disk and SCSI cd. where you may need to boot with a libata.atapi_enabled=0 kernel parameter. Why deliberately disable atapi when you need atapi

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 01:00 AM, Alan Cox wrote: Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support Not for the newer chips. You want ATA/SATA (PIIX and possibly AHCI) support from the new drivers, SCSI disk and SCSI cd. That _is_ the *config description for the new (CONFIG_ATA_PIIX) driver (in

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread José Luis Patiño Andrés
El Miércoles, 22 de Agosto de 2007 00:08, Rene Herman escribió: You have a SATA harddrive (Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 100GB SATA/2.5) and an IDE (also known as PATA) DVD drive (LG GMA-4082N). That is, your disk should be driven by the: Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support under the

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-21 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/22/2007 03:39 AM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: You have a SATA harddrive (Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 100GB SATA/2.5) and an IDE (also known as PATA) DVD drive (LG GMA-4082N). That is, your disk should be driven by the: Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support under the Serial ATA