Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-10 Thread Kurt Garloff
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:21:56PM +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote: > [...] > > On the other hand, Alpha systems and SPARC systems have IOMMU hardware, > > and we do support that (to some extent), but 32-bit intel world doesn't > >

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-10 Thread Kurt Garloff
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:21:56PM +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote: [...] On the other hand, Alpha systems and SPARC systems have IOMMU hardware, and we do support that (to some extent), but 32-bit intel world doesn't have

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: > > you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, > but > > it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, > since > > they're inexpensive and fairly common now. For instance, the Qlogic

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:35:02PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > > > Problem is that it needs a driver interface change and cooperation from > > the > > drivers. > [Venkatesh Ramamurthy] Atleast the spec for this new interface, > that the driver has to support be prepared? Once

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
> Problem is that it needs a driver interface change and cooperation from > the > drivers. [Venkatesh Ramamurthy] Atleast the spec for this new interface, that the driver has to support be prepared? Once this is done we can port driver by driver to this new standard. > -Andi - To

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Tim Wright
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 05:44:46PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: > > you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, but > > it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, since > > they're

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: > you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, but > it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, since > they're inexpensive and fairly common now. For instance, the Qlogic ISP SCSI >

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Tim Wright
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:21:56PM +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote: [...] > > For IO on usual systems you have 32 bit address space PCI busmasters, > so those can access only the lowest 4GB of address space, and to have > a block of data in upper area, it needs to be "bounced", that is, CPU >

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:15:34AM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > > Any memory over 1GB is bounce-buffered, but we don't use that memory > > for anything other than process data pages or file cache, so only > > swapping and disk IO to regular files gets the extra copy. In > > particular,

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
> Any memory over 1GB is bounce-buffered, but we don't use that memory > for anything other than process data pages or file cache, so only > swapping and disk IO to regular files gets the extra copy. In > particular, things like network buffers are still all kept in the low > 1GB so never need

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > > > Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness > accessing RAM over 4 GB > * with 32 bit machines ?) > Imore than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance > penalty as the

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:46:04PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Max. file size: 1 TB(?) > > Max. file system size: 2 TB(?) > > Again, maybe on i386 with ext2. Actually, the 2TB limit affects all architectures, as we assume that block indexes

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > > > Max. RAM size: 64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB > > with 32 bit machines ?) > more than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance > penalty as the

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: Max. RAM size: 64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB with 32 bit machines ?) more than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance penalty as the data

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB * with 32 bit machines ?) Imore than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance penalty as the data

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:15:34AM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: Any memory over 1GB is bounce-buffered, but we don't use that memory for anything other than process data pages or file cache, so only swapping and disk IO to regular files gets the extra copy. In particular, things

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Tim Wright
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:21:56PM +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote: [...] For IO on usual systems you have 32 bit address space PCI busmasters, so those can access only the lowest 4GB of address space, and to have a block of data in upper area, it needs to be "bounced", that is, CPU must

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, but it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, since they're inexpensive and fairly common now. For instance, the Qlogic ISP SCSI cards

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Tim Wright
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 05:44:46PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, but it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, since they're inexpensive

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
Problem is that it needs a driver interface change and cooperation from the drivers. [Venkatesh Ramamurthy] Atleast the spec for this new interface, that the driver has to support be prepared? Once this is done we can port driver by driver to this new standard. -Andi - To

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:35:02PM -0500, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: Problem is that it needs a driver interface change and cooperation from the drivers. [Venkatesh Ramamurthy] Atleast the spec for this new interface, that the driver has to support be prepared? Once this is

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-09 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:27:49AM -0800, Tim Wright wrote: you are correct in saying that ia32 systems don't have IOMMU hardware, but it's unfortunate that we don't support 64-bit PCI bus master cards, since they're inexpensive and fairly common now. For instance, the Qlogic ISP SCSI

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-08 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
> Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB * with 32 bit machines ?) Imore than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance penalty as the data have to be copied into the 4GB RAM area - To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-08 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > Hi, I would like to know whether following limits are right for kernel > 2.4.x: > > Max. N. of CPU: 32 (SMP) > Max. CPU speed: > 2 Ghz (up to ?) > Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB >

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-08 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Hi, I would like to know whether following limits are right for kernel 2.4.x: Max. N. of CPU: 32 (SMP) Max. CPU speed:2 Ghz (up to ?) Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB

RE: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-08 Thread Venkatesh Ramamurthy
Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB * with 32 bit machines ?) Imore than 4GB in RAM is bounce buffered, so there is performance penalty as the data have to be copied into the 4GB RAM area - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-04 Thread Anton Blanchard
> Hi, I would like to know whether following limits are right for kernel > 2.4.x: > > Max. N. of CPU: 32 (SMP) Max CPUs is 64 on 64 bit architectures (well you have to change NR_CPUS). I am told larger than 32 cpu ultrasparcs have booted linux already. Anton - To

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, A.D.F. wrote: > Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB >with 32 bit machines ?) realistic benchmarks (unixbench) will show about 3%-6% performance degradation with use of PAE. Note that this

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, A.D.F. wrote: Max. RAM size:64 GB (any slowness accessing RAM over 4 GB with 32 bit machines ?) realistic benchmarks (unixbench) will show about 3%-6% performance degradation with use of PAE. Note that this is

Re: Confirmation request about new 2.4.x. kernel limits

2001-01-04 Thread Anton Blanchard
Hi, I would like to know whether following limits are right for kernel 2.4.x: Max. N. of CPU: 32 (SMP) Max CPUs is 64 on 64 bit architectures (well you have to change NR_CPUS). I am told larger than 32 cpu ultrasparcs have booted linux already. Anton - To