Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Willy Tarreau
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: > > > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > > >for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that > > > >years ago bisection of a bug was a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-18 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 01:20:10PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > But a bisect takes around 7 compiles. > >... > > I don't understand that number. > > The common case are regressions in -rc1, and a bisection of > at about 7000 commits takes around 13 compiles. Worst case it would take 13. In

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Rene Herman
On 18-11-07 15:35, James Bottomley wrote: clean-cg? But failure to run "git repack -a -d" every once in a while? Actually, the best command is git gc which does a repack (into a single pack file rather than an incremenal), and then removes all the objects now in the pack. If, like me, you

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: > > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > >for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that > > >years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task > > >so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch > >

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:58 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > On 18-11-07 13:44, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: > > >> It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone > >> else. > > > > Hmmm, clean-cg is 7.7G on my machine, and yes I tried > >

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Rene Herman
On 18-11-07 13:44, Pavel Machek wrote: On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Hmmm, clean-cg is 7.7G on my machine, and yes I tried git-prune-packed. What am I doing wrong? clean-cg? But failure to run "git repack -a -d"

size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Pavel Machek
On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > >for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that > >years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task > >so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch > >approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can >

size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Pavel Machek
On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly bisect

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Rene Herman
On 18-11-07 13:44, Pavel Machek wrote: On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Hmmm, clean-cg is 7.7G on my machine, and yes I tried git-prune-packed. What am I doing wrong? clean-cg? But failure to run git repack -a -d

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:58 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: On 18-11-07 13:44, Pavel Machek wrote: On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Hmmm, clean-cg is 7.7G on my machine, and yes I tried git-prune-packed. What am

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Rene Herman
On 18-11-07 15:35, James Bottomley wrote: clean-cg? But failure to run git repack -a -d every once in a while? Actually, the best command is git gc which does a repack (into a single pack file rather than an incremenal), and then removes all the objects now in the pack. If, like me, you

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-18 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 01:20:10PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: But a bisect takes around 7 compiles. ... I don't understand that number. The common case are regressions in -rc1, and a bisection of at about 7000 commits takes around 13 compiles. Worst case it would take 13. In practice

Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-18 Thread Willy Tarreau
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:46:18PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:20:16PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > Compared to getting useful suggestions from a mailing list, especially > > before you've gotten anybody's attention? Hours or overnight isn't > > particularly

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:46:18PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:20:16PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: Compared to getting useful suggestions from a mailing list, especially before you've gotten anybody's attention? Hours or overnight isn't particularly long, and

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Theodore Tso
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:20:16PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > Compared to getting useful suggestions from a mailing list, especially > before you've gotten anybody's attention? Hours or overnight isn't > particularly long, and doesn't take up much of your time if you've got a > working

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Romano Giannetti wrote: > > (Cc: trimmed a bit). > > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:19 -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: > [...] > > > A full kernel build with everything selected can take good 30 minutes or > > > more, and that's on a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Romano Giannetti
(Cc: trimmed a bit). On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:19 -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: [...] > > A full kernel build with everything selected can take good 30 minutes or > > more, and that's on a fast dual-core machine with 4gigs of memory and > > 7200rpm

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Romano Giannetti
(Cc: trimmed a bit). On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:19 -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: [...] A full kernel build with everything selected can take good 30 minutes or more, and that's on a fast dual-core machine with 4gigs of memory and 7200rpm disk

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Romano Giannetti wrote: (Cc: trimmed a bit). On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:19 -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: [...] A full kernel build with everything selected can take good 30 minutes or more, and that's on a fast dual-core

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-16 Thread Theodore Tso
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:20:16PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: Compared to getting useful suggestions from a mailing list, especially before you've gotten anybody's attention? Hours or overnight isn't particularly long, and doesn't take up much of your time if you've got a working kernel

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:50:43PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote: > Virtual Folders. > > I use VM mode in EMACS, but I believe some other mail readers have the > same functionality. > I have a virtual folder called "nfs" which shows me all mail in my > inbox which has the string 'nfs' or 'lockd' in a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Ben Dooks
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:34:37PM +, Russell King wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:25:16PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > > Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to > > > expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs. > > > I for one wish

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu > > users that does a real "git bisect". Git is really good at being scripted > > by fancy GUIs. It should be

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Theodore Tso
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu > users that does a real "git bisect". Git is really good at being scripted > by fancy GUIs. It should be easy enough to have a drop down with all of > the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Theodore Tso
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu users that does a real git bisect. Git is really good at being scripted by fancy GUIs. It should be easy enough to have a drop down with all of the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote: I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu users that does a real git bisect. Git is really good at being scripted by fancy GUIs. It should be easy

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Ben Dooks
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:34:37PM +, Russell King wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:25:16PM +, Alan Cox wrote: Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs. I for one wish I'd never

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:50:43PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote: Virtual Folders. I use VM mode in EMACS, but I believe some other mail readers have the same functionality. I have a virtual folder called nfs which shows me all mail in my inbox which has the string 'nfs' or 'lockd' in a To, Cc,

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > So even at 100% dirty limits, it won't let you dirty more than 1GB on the > default 32-bit setup. Side note: all of these are obviously still just heuristics. If you really *do* run on a 32-bit kernel, and you want to have the pain, I'm sure you

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > So we've already been running those settings for a while. They didn't > help. Ok, so something else is up. If the mmap file is 2G, and you have 6G of RAM, you shouldn't be hitting the dirty limits with those setups. Of course, it may still be

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 08:24:53PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > > > And congratulations to him for that. We almost entirely dropped 2.6.16, > > but there's a regression some time since then that makes large MMAPed > > files a major pain

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:56:01PM +0100, Christian Kujau wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: >> There are a number of process things we _could_ do. Like >> - have bugfix-only kernel releases > > Adrian Bunk does (did?) this with 2.6.16.x, although it always seemed to me > like an

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > And congratulations to him for that. We almost entirely dropped 2.6.16, > but there's a regression some time since then that makes large MMAPed > files a major pain (specifically the dcc database clean takes about 5 > minutes on 2.6.16 and about 12

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Neil Brown
On Tuesday November 13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 07:08, Mark Lord wrote: > > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > .. > > > > > This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, > > > it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for > > >

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Neil Brown
On Wednesday November 14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > so please stop this "too busy and too noisy" nonsense already. It was > > > nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: > There are two parts to this. One is a Ubuntu development kernel which > we can give to large numbers of people to expand our testing pool. > But if we don't do a better job of responding to bug reports that > would be generated by expanded testing this

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Heikki Orsila wrote: > > See > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9321 > > for more information. That's a pretty unhelpful thing. It doesn't describe the breakage at all, so there is hardly much "more info". You've also apparently made all the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Heikki Orsila
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:54:16AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even > if it *can* be "fixed for release". If there isn't a fix available within > a day or two, it should get reverted. > ... > Also, please notice the latter

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Gabriel C
Denys Vlasenko wrote: > hi Matthew, > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 06:35, Hannes Reinecke wrote: >> Matthew Wilcox wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their git tree. I did that and sent

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Denys Vlasenko
hi Matthew, On Wednesday 14 November 2007 06:35, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > >> Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their > >> git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:37:37 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-) No, I don't intend to carry on this discussion, but I appreciate the smiley. --- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread david
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote: Dumping even more crap on lkml is not the answer. that "crap" that i'd like to see dumped upon lkml would be netdev traffic mainly - most of the other kernel development lists (and i'm subscribed to many of them) are low-traffic. netdev is the main

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* James Bottomley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote: > > From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 > > > > > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev > > > some of those bugs

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 > > > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev > > some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all > > on lkml we'd

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed > > it. > > I didn't miss your claim. ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-) Ingo - To

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it. I didn't miss your claim. --- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > * Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds > > > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 > > > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev > > some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all > >

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:24:48PM +, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel > > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 > > > Kernel: 2.6.23 > > > This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM > > > > No response from developers > >

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev > some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all > on lkml we'd all be aware of it. That's a rediculious argument.

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: > > Not if you said their regression causing patches will get reverted unless it > can be fixed for release. Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even if it *can* be "fixed for release". If there isn't a fix available

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:07:06AM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 + > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > By doing so you've just said

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Kok, Auke
Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> You missed the following in my email: >> "we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any >> reaction." >> >> The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy >> things like

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > so please stop this "too busy and too noisy" nonsense already. It was > > nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense today. In 10 years the kernel > > grew from a 1 million

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds > > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the > > > separate netdev list is a bad idea -

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Jan Evert van Grootheest
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo->ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Larry Finger
Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's >>> not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you >>> do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the >>> linux-2.6

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's >> not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you >> do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the >> linux-2.6 directory. > .. > > Ah, I

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Fabio Comolli
FWIW, I see the same problem with another HP notebook, DV4378EA with radeon X700 video card. It does not happen frequently but I can say that since I disabled the tickless feature I can't reproduce the problem anymore. On Nov 14, 2007 2:24 PM, Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > >

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the > > separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should > > be discussed and fixed on lkml, like

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 > > Kernel: 2.6.23 > > This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM > > No response from developers Maybe I'm optimistic, but I expected Ingo/Thomas to look after nohz problems.

Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > > On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), > > David Miller wrote: > >> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) > >> > >>> The fact that it farts

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: >> Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their >> git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then. >> >> And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything >> complex, it mostly

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their > git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then. > > And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything > complex, it mostly moves code around, removes

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > > HID > > > > Kernel NULL pointer dereference at :usbhid:hiddev_ioctl+0x2f/0xabc > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9216 > > Kernel: 2.6.23.1 > > Looks like this is a

Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote: At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), David Miller wrote: From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. See? I got another one and I have received

Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), David Miller wrote: > > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) > > > The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. > > See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the >

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 + > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate > someone having a different opinion from your

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800 > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:27:00PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger > lists. Considering how many

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:27:00PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger lists. Considering how many times those

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 + On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate someone having a different opinion from your own. I

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800 On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a

Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote: At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), David Miller wrote: From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. See? I got another one and I have received at

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: HID Kernel NULL pointer dereference at :usbhid:hiddev_ioctl+0x2f/0xabc http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9216 Kernel: 2.6.23.1 Looks like this is a regression No

Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), David Miller wrote: From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the following over

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then. And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything complex, it mostly moves code around, removes

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Matthew Wilcox wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then. And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything complex, it mostly moves code

Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)

2007-11-14 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote: At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST), David Miller wrote: From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 Kernel: 2.6.23 This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM No response from developers Maybe I'm optimistic, but I expected Ingo/Thomas to look after nohz problems. nohz=off

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Fabio Comolli
FWIW, I see the same problem with another HP notebook, DV4378EA with radeon X700 video card. It does not happen frequently but I can say that since I disabled the tickless feature I can't reproduce the problem anymore. On Nov 14, 2007 2:24 PM, Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi!

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the linux-2.6 directory. .. Ah, I wondered why

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should be discussed and fixed on lkml, like most other

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Larry Finger
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the linux-2.6 directory. ..

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Jan Evert van Grootheest
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo-ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: * Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: so please stop this too busy and too noisy nonsense already. It was nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense today. In 10 years the kernel grew from a 1 million lines

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Kok, Auke
Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote: You missed the following in my email: we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any reaction. The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy things like compile errors

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:07:06AM -0800, David Miller wrote: From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 + On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote: I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: Not if you said their regression causing patches will get reverted unless it can be fixed for release. Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even if it *can* be fixed for release. If there isn't a fix available within a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all on lkml we'd all be aware of it. That's a rediculious argument. One

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:24:48PM +, Pavel Machek wrote: Hi! Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 Kernel: 2.6.23 This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM No response from developers Maybe I'm optimistic,

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote: From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all on lkml we'd

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: * Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it. I didn't miss your claim. --- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it. I didn't miss your claim. ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-) Ingo - To unsubscribe

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all on lkml we'd all be aware

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* James Bottomley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote: From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev some of those bugs were already

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