On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 03:54:10PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
Huh, interesting.
I was imagining that each of a server's peers (capability holders)
would have a fresh struct file, but maybe this wouldn't be needed at
On 04/15/2015 04:22 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Rik van Riel r...@redhat.com wrote:
On 04/15/2015 07:06 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
that anyone here does either. In the many years I've
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:05:01AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
So definitely +1 from me for this discussion to happen, being it
either LPC (which I will unfortunately probably have to miss due to
personal reaons this year) or KS. It might help people like me, who
have trouble understanding why
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote:
We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable
person, if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you put it into
the
kernel? Said person is on the record as having no problem
On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 08:54 +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net
wrote:
We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously
honorable
person, if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you
put it
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 18:36:28 schrieb Andy Lutomirski:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk
wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:18:46AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 18:36:28 schrieb Andy Lutomirski:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk
wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:14:34PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
Greg == Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
Greg On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:57:22AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:05:01AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Steven Rostedt wrote:
I believe that Linux Plumbers is still accepting MicroConferences. I
wonder if this would be a good one to have. Try to get everyone face to
face and talk about how exactly kdbus
Am 15.04.2015 um 10:48 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:54:07AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote:
We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable
person, if you didn't
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:52:37AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2015, 10:32:19 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:18:46AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 18:36:28 schrieb Andy Lutomirski:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:54:41AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
If you have a technical reason for why this code shouldn't be merged,
great, please let me know and we can work to address that. Andy and Al
have spent time reviewing and giving
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have
busybox
as userland. That's a fact.
Is that a problem?
I'm amazed that
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:36:28PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
If you have a technical reason for why this code shouldn't be merged,
great, please let me know and we can work to address that. Andy and Al
have spent time reviewing and giving us comments, and that's wonderful
and valuable and is why I
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:00:50AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 15.04.2015 um 10:48 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:54:07AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net
wrote:
We had been there before.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I don't understand. You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
the X11 model),
I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 model and the
protocol lead to al the
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:53:36PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:48:04PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
It's not going to stop anything from working, it's just going to stop
some programs from being able to do things they really want to do (see
the first email
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:33:30AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
Yes, it's an unfortunate design, but one that we are all stuck with
(think of it as having to implement code for horrid hardware that you
have to get to work properly.)
Greg,
Am 15.04.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have
busybox
as userland. That's a fact.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:39:22 +0200 (CEST)
Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I don't understand. You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
the X11 model),
I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 model and the
protocol
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:44:40AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
If you really don't like userspace using features the kernel provides
you, well, there's nothing I can say that will change that odd feeling,
sorry.
Are you even reading what people are saying?
I don't like the mandatory(!)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27:13AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have
busybox
as
Am 15.04.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:30:52AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 15.04.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:54:07AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote:
We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable
person, if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you put it
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2015, 10:32:19 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:18:46AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 18:36:28 schrieb Andy Lutomirski:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk
wrote:
On Mon, Apr
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have
busybox
as userland. That's a fact.
Is that a problem?
I'm amazed that you're really actually asking that question :-(
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2015, 11:02:12 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
And yes, I think its good not to force just about any userspace
idea
into the kernel.
Do you have any technical objections to the patch as proposed?
If I had, I would have written it. I explained
Am 15.04.2015 um 11:20 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:00:50AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 15.04.2015 um 10:48 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:54:07AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:30:52AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 15.04.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to use cgroups,
To quote the email that he wrote:
The reason is that dbus views the world in a stateful way
assuming that connections, and name ownership, can be tracked
reliably. This is different from say http, and it's one reason
that people used to Internet-oriented protocols
Look, us kernel developers only work on one huge, multithreaded, global
state binary. Our experience in multi-application interactions with
shared state and permission requirements is usually quite limited. If
you don't trust the developers of those programs outside the kernel,
don't use
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:44:11AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27:13AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
We're all forced to
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:35:07AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:44:40AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
If you really don't like userspace using features the kernel provides
you, well, there's nothing I can say that will change that odd feeling,
sorry.
Are
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> > I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
>> > meta-data.
>>
>> You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
>> an option
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> I don't understand. You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
> the X11 model),
I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 "model" and the
protocol lead to al the efforts to reimplement this properly ... in
userspace (for
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> Yes, it's an unfortunate design, but one that we are all stuck with
> (think of it as having to implement code for horrid hardware that you
> have to get to work properly.)
Greg, I personally consider this a rather defunct analogy. Broken
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> I believe that Linux Plumbers is still accepting MicroConferences. I
> wonder if this would be a good one to have. Try to get everyone face to
> face and talk about how exactly kdbus should be implemented in the
> kernel.
I personally would even
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:14:34PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
>
> So I think that's the steps people need to take, give concrete example
> of how DBUS is better than anything else out there and won't cause
> more problems down the line.
I believe that Linux Plumbers is still accepting
> "Greg" == Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
Greg> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:57:22AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 21:48:04 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:40:04PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:48:04PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> It's not going to stop anything from working, it's just going to stop
> some programs from being able to do things they really want to do (see
> the first email for examples.)
Until it is made "mandatory" as Al said earlier.
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:40:04PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > You might not like
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:35:33PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>
> > > I agree. You've sent a pull request for an unfortunate design. I
> > > don't think that unfortunate design belongs in the kernel. If it says
> > > in
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
> > > don't
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > I agree. You've sent a pull request for an unfortunate design. I
> > don't think that unfortunate design belongs in the kernel. If it says
> > in userspace, then user programmers could potentially fix it some day.
>
> You
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
> > don't refuse to support hardware that is designed badly.
>
> Yeah except the small
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
> don't refuse to support hardware that is designed badly.
Yeah except the small difference that unlike this, we can't change
hardware.
--
Regards/Gruss,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:57:22AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 07:19:49PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
>
> > Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
> >
> >> The following changes since commit
> >> 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
> >>
> >> Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> >> wrote:
> >> > The following changes
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 07:19:49PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
The following changes since commit
9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:14:34PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
So I think that's the steps people need to take, give concrete example
of how DBUS is better than anything else out there and won't cause
more problems down the line.
I believe that Linux Plumbers is still accepting
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
don't refuse to support hardware that is designed badly.
Yeah except the small difference that unlike this, we can't change
hardware.
--
Regards/Gruss,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:57:22AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:35:33PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I agree. You've sent a pull request for an unfortunate design. I
don't think that unfortunate design belongs in the kernel. If it says
in userspace, then user
Greg == Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
Greg On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:57:22AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
don't refuse to support hardware that is designed badly.
Yeah except the small difference
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I agree. You've sent a pull request for an unfortunate design. I
don't think that unfortunate design belongs in the kernel. If it says
in userspace, then user programmers could potentially fix it some day.
You might
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
You might not like the design, but it is a valid design. Again, we
don't refuse to
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:40:04PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
You might not like the design,
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2015, 21:48:04 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:40:04PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:24:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:48:04PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
It's not going to stop anything from working, it's just going to stop
some programs from being able to do things they really want to do (see
the first email for examples.)
Until it is made mandatory as Al said earlier.
Yes,
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I don't understand. You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
the X11 model),
I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 model and the
protocol lead to al the efforts to reimplement this properly ... in
userspace (for example
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Steven Rostedt wrote:
I believe that Linux Plumbers is still accepting MicroConferences. I
wonder if this would be a good one to have. Try to get everyone face to
face and talk about how exactly kdbus should be implemented in the
kernel.
I personally would even put
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
Yes, it's an unfortunate design, but one that we are all stuck with
(think of it as having to implement code for horrid hardware that you
have to get to work properly.)
Greg, I personally consider this a rather defunct analogy. Broken
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Eric W. Biederman
wrote:
> ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
>
>> Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
>>
>>> The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
>>>
>>> Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
>>>
>>> are
ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
> Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
>
>> The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
>>
>> Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
>>
>> are available in the git repository at:
>>
>>
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
>> wrote:
>> > The following changes since commit
>> > 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
>> >
>> >
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> wrote:
> > The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
> >
> > Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
> >
> > are available in the git
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:22:33PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
> > > meta-data.
> >
> > You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
>
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
> > meta-data.
>
> You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
> an option :)
OK, _that_ argument needs to be stomped out. It had
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
wrote:
> The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
>
> Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
>
> are available in the git repository at:
>
>
Am 13.04.2015 um 22:03 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>
>> Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>
> Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> >> wrote:
> I remain opposed to this
Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
>> wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
>>>
>>> You don't have
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> wrote:
> >> I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
> >> meta-data.
> >
> > You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
wrote:
>> I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
>> meta-data.
>
> You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
> an option :)
Wasn't this also an argument for CONFIG_CGROUPS?
Now we're
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:29:35PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
>
> > The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
> >
> > Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
> >
> > are available in the git repository at:
> >
> >
Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
> The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
>
> Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
>
> are available in the git repository at:
>
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/char-misc.git/
> tags/kdbus-4.1-rc1
>
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
are available in the git repository at:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want
Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
I remain
Am 13.04.2015 um 22:03 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
are available in the git repository at:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/char-misc.git/
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:29:35PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
are available in the git repository at:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
an option :)
Wasn't this also an argument for
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:22:33PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
an option
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
The following changes since commit
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
meta-data.
You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
an option :)
OK, _that_ argument needs to be stomped out. It had been
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
are available
ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08 16:09:09 -0700)
are available in the git repository at:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Eric W. Biederman
ebied...@xmission.com wrote:
ebied...@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@linuxfoundation.org writes:
The following changes since commit 9eccca0843205f87c00404b663188b88eb248051:
Linux 4.0-rc3 (2015-03-08
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