From: Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:55:36 +0200 (CEST)
>
> On Sep 27 2007 07:51, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >
> >You need every socket to close and all routes to go away including the
> >routes through loopback device, and still there probably are control
>
From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:54:23 +0200
> Wouldn't it be enough to down all the interfaces and close all the sockets?
> No need to bring down every app.
And there are routes, and neighbour cache entries, and all sorts
of external references to the stack.
On Sep 27 2007 07:51, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
>You need every socket to close and all routes to go away including the
>routes through loopback device, and still there probably are control
>sockets buried inside ipv6 that hold ref count.
>
>IMHO the kernel should just admit that IPV6 can't be
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:54:23 +0200
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
> > Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >>
> > No, network devices
Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
No, network devices don't do reference counting.
Could you explain why, please?
After `udevd` on boot loads lots of
Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
No, network devices don't do reference counting.
Could you explain why, please?
After `udevd` on boot loads lots of
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:54:23 +0200
Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
No, network devices don't do reference
On Sep 27 2007 07:51, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
You need every socket to close and all routes to go away including the
routes through loopback device, and still there probably are control
sockets buried inside ipv6 that hold ref count.
IMHO the kernel should just admit that IPV6 can't be
From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:54:23 +0200
Wouldn't it be enough to down all the interfaces and close all the sockets?
No need to bring down every app.
And there are routes, and neighbour cache entries, and all sorts
of external references to the stack. For
From: Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:55:36 +0200 (CEST)
On Sep 27 2007 07:51, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
You need every socket to close and all routes to go away including the
routes through loopback device, and still there probably are control
sockets buried
From: Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:33:30 -0700
> ipv6 is not a network driver, it is a protocol. You might be able to
> remove it if you zap all the routes and applications, ...
It is purposefully set to have a permanent elevated reference
count because it is
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No, network devices don't do reference counting.
> >>
> >> Could you explain why, please?
> >>
> >> After `udevd` on boot loads lots of unused
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> >
>> > No, network devices don't do reference counting.
>>
>> Could you explain why, please?
>>
>> After `udevd` on boot loads lots of unused crap, i surrendered, and use
>> $(rmmod `lsmod | just first column`). Networing bravely wipes away. OK,
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:06:53 +0200
Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:37:05 -0700
> * Organization: Linux Foundation
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:53:27 +0100
> > "Jan Beulich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Otherwise 'modprobe -r' on a module having a dependency
* Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:37:05 -0700
* Organization: Linux Foundation
>
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:53:27 +0100
> "Jan Beulich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Otherwise 'modprobe -r' on a module having a dependency on bridge will
>> implicitly unload bridge, bringing down all connectivity that was
>>
* Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:37:05 -0700
* Organization: Linux Foundation
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:53:27 +0100
Jan Beulich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise 'modprobe -r' on a module having a dependency on bridge will
implicitly unload bridge, bringing down all connectivity that was
using bridges.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:06:53 +0200
Oleg Verych [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:37:05 -0700
* Organization: Linux Foundation
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:53:27 +0100
Jan Beulich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise 'modprobe -r' on a module having a dependency on bridge will
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
No, network devices don't do reference counting.
Could you explain why, please?
After `udevd` on boot loads lots of unused crap, i surrendered, and use
$(rmmod `lsmod | just first column`). Networing bravely wipes away. OK,
there are lots
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 14:06, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
No, network devices don't do reference counting.
Could you explain why, please?
After `udevd` on boot loads lots of unused crap, i surrendered, and
From: Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:33:30 -0700
ipv6 is not a network driver, it is a protocol. You might be able to
remove it if you zap all the routes and applications, ...
It is purposefully set to have a permanent elevated reference
count because it is not
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