Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-28 Thread Rene Herman
that public domain is not so much a license, and how it becomes GPL anyway, ... Stating that code which one intends to be in the public domain has "GPL and additional rights" is a bit of a travesty though. Signed-off-by: Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rene. diff --git a/include/l

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/29/2007 12:48 AM, Alan Cox wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:00:27 +0200 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 06/28/2007 06:30 PM, Alan Cox wrote: Public domain is GPL compatible. Would you happen to have an opinion on the attached? I don't so much need it The

Re: updated sbpcd.c

2007-06-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/29/2007 04:47 AM, Surya Prabhakar N wrote: Hi emoenke, Can this patch be verified and pulled into your tree. You (and he) may not particularly care -- these old drivers are going to be removed for 2.6.23: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/21/34 Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/29/2007 11:05 PM, Bodo Eggert wrote: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed if its public domain you may have almost no rights at all depending what you were given. Once you get the source code you can do stuff but I don't have to give you that. If its public domain I can find

Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?

2007-06-29 Thread Rene Herman
Robert Hancock shaw.ca> writes: > In the case of S/PDIF output on ice1724 (and probably other cards), it > would be nice if ALSA defaulted to routing default audio to both the > S/PDIF and analog ports, as this is what most users would normally > expect.. The Windows drivers work like that,

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 06/30/2007 04:11 AM, Daniel Hazelton wrote: On Friday 29 June 2007 17:27:34 Rene Herman wrote: Arguably (no doubt, sigh...) someone could distribute the kernel in binary form but refuse to provide source for the bits marked as being in the public domain alongside it -- yes, can of worms

Re: PATA-disk named sda

2007-07-07 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/06/2007 02:30 PM, Christoph Pleger wrote: And what about hdparm (setting 32bit I/O and multi-sector mode)? Suren wrote that 32bit I/O makes no sense when using DMA. Maybe that's right, but it does not correspond with my experiences. At least, I have the "feeling" that my IDE disks work

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/28/2007 02:44 AM, José Luis Patiño Andrés wrote: Okay Rene, I activated SCSI CD-ROM support in kernel config and now all works again. It's strange, because I never used this option to get my DVD device on. Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your

Re: CFS review

2007-08-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/29/2007 05:57 PM, Keith Packard wrote: With X server 1.3, I'm getting consistent crashes with two glxgear instances running. So, if you're getting any output, it's better than my situation. Before people focuss on software rendering too much -- also with 1.3.0 (and a Matrox Millenium

Re: CFS review

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/29/2007 09:56 PM, Rene Herman wrote: Realised the BUGs may mean the kernel DRM people could want to be in CC... On 08/29/2007 05:57 PM, Keith Packard wrote: With X server 1.3, I'm getting consistent crashes with two glxgear instances running. So, if you're getting any output, it's

Re: CFS review

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 06:06 PM, Chuck Ebbert wrote: On 08/29/2007 03:56 PM, Rene Herman wrote: Before people focuss on software rendering too much -- also with 1.3.0 (and a Matrox Millenium G550 AGP, 32M) glxgears also works decidedly crummy using hardware rendering. While I can move the glxgears

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 09:31 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 28 2007 19:05, Rene Herman wrote: Sheesh. How could anyone _not_ understand you need SCSI CD-ROM support for your IDE DVD-RW drive... Welcome to the wonderful world of SCSIfying ATA. (Don't talk about ATAPI, USB/Firewire, it's

Re: Problems with IDE on linux 2.6.22.X

2007-08-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/30/2007 11:16 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: On 8/30/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well -- the world where ATA, SCSI, USB, Firewire and what have you are low-level drivers to a unifying storage layer is under non too obscure definitions sort of not non-wonderful...

DRM and/or X trouble (was Re: CFS review)

2007-08-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/31/2007 08:46 AM, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: On 08/29/2007 09:56 PM, Rene Herman wrote: With X server 1.3, I'm getting consistent crashes with two glxgear instances running. So, if you're getting any output, it's better than my situation. Before people focuss on software rendering too

Re: [PATCH -mm] sb16: Shut up uninitialized var build warning

2007-09-02 Thread Rene Herman
On 09/02/2007 10:15 PM, Satyam Sharma wrote: sound/isa/sb16/sb16.c: In function ‘snd_sb16_isa_probe’: Blah. Your message has: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-2022-jp This apparently is caused by a combination of GCC using groovy UTF tickmarks in its error messages when in a

Re: [PATCH -mm] es18xx: Shut up uninitialized var build warning

2007-09-02 Thread Rene Herman
On 09/02/2007 10:21 PM, Satyam Sharma wrote: sound/isa/es18xx.c: In function ‘snd_es18xx_isa_probe’: sound/isa/es18xx.c:2251: warning: ‘err’ may be used uninitialized in this function gcc is a sad, sad compiler. This warning is bogus so let's shut it up. Same situation, same comment (and

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-24 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 06:06 AM, Nick Piggin wrote: Ray Lee wrote: Anyway, my point is that I worry that tuning for an unusual and infrequent workload (which updatedb certainly is), is the wrong way to go. Well it runs every day or so for every desktop Linux user, and it has similarities with

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-24 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 07:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Rene Herman wrote: It certainly doesn't run for me ever. Always kind of a "that's not the point" comment but I just keep wondering whenever I see anyone complain about updatedb why the _hell_ they a

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 06:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could make a synthetic test by writing a memory hog that allocates 3/4 of your ram then pauses waiting for input and then randomly accesses the memory for a while (say randomly accessing 2x # of pages allocated) and then pausing again

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 09:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:30:37 +0200, Rene Herman said: Yes, but what's locate's usage scenario? I've never, ever wanted to use it. When do you know the name of something but not where it's located, other than situations which "which"

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 10:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Rene Herman wrote: Something like this? [ ... ] when the swap readahead is enabled does it make a significant difference in the time to do the random access? I don't use swap prefetch (nor -ck or -mm). If someone who

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 10:28 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote: Regardless, I'll stand by "[by disabling updatedb] the problem will for a large part be solved" as I expect approximately 94.372 percent of Linux desktop users couldn't care less about locate. i think that approach is illogical: because Linux

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 10:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't used swap prefetch either, the call was put out for what could be used to test the performance, and I was suggesting a test. if nobody else follows up on this I'll try to get some time to test it myself in a day or two. this

Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 01:34 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: and the fact is: updatedb discards a considerable portion of the cache completely unnecessarily: on a reasonably complex box no way do all the inodes and dentries fit into all of RAM, so we just trash everything. Okay, but unless I've now managed to

Re: [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 12:53 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On 7/25/07, *Rene Herman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Also note I'm not against swap prefetch or anything. I don't use it and do not believe I have a pressing need for it, but do suspect it has potential t

Re: howto get a patch merged (WAS: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23)

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 05:30 PM, Kacper Wysocki wrote: main question is _why_ the hell it helps updatedb. Is that what [ ... ] And there we go again -- off into blabber-land. Why does swap-prefetch help updatedb? Or doesn't it? And if it doesn't, why should anyone trust anything else someone who

Re: updatedb

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 09:08 AM, Bongani Hlope wrote: On Thursday 26 July 2007 08:56:59 Rene Herman wrote: Great. Now concentrate on the "swpd" column, as it's the only thing relevant here. The fact that an updatedb run fills/replaces caches is completely and utterly unsurprising and not

Re: updatedb

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 08:23 AM, Andika Triwidada wrote: On 7/26/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RAM intensive? If I run updatedb here, it never grows itself beyond 2M. Yes, two. I'm certainly willing to accept that me and my systems are possibly not the reference but assuming I'm

Re: i386-show-unhandled-signals-v3

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 01:25 AM, Andrew Morton wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:07:56 -0700 "Masoud Sharbiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is rate limited; Do you need me to rewrite it with it being disabled by default? Yes please. Look: if there's a way in which an unprivileged user can trigger

Re: i386-show-unhandled-signals-v3

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 12:16 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:46:23 +0200 Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look: if there's a way in which an unprivileged user can trigger a printk we fix it, end of story. I'm firmly against disabling it on x86-64 by default. The printks are extremly

Re: updatedb

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 11:58 AM, Björn Steinbrink wrote: Will now go and see what happens if I play with swappiness. I in fact managed to overlook _all_ of swappiness (*) and was quite frankly under the impression that Linux would simply never swap anything out to make room for cache. Which is basic

updatedb

2007-07-25 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/25/2007 07:15 PM, Robert Deaton wrote: On 7/25/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And there we go again -- off into blabber-land. Why does swap-prefetch help updatedb? Or doesn't it? And if it doesn't, why should anyone trust anything else someone who said it does say

Re: updatedb

2007-07-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/26/2007 08:39 AM, Bongani Hlope wrote: On Thursday 26 July 2007 05:59:53 Rene Herman wrote: So what's happening? If you sit down with a copy op "top" in one terminal and updatedb in another, what does it show? Just tested that, there's a steady increase in the useage of bu

Re: updatedb

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 02:46 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: On 26/07/07, Andika Triwidada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Might be insignificant, but updatedb calls find (~2M) and sort (~26M). Definitely not RAM intensive though (RAM is 1GB). That doesn't match my box at all : [ ... ] This is a Slackware

Re: updatedb

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 09:54 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 08:00 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: The remaining issue of updatedb unnecessarily blowing away VFS caches is being discussed (*) in a few thread-branches still running. If you solve that, the swap thing dies too, they're one

Re: updatedb

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 01:48 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote: physical ram. If it really does use only free ram, that indeed sounds pretty pointless. Con's quote from a bit below that seems to confirm the "only free" nicely. I believe the users who say their apps really do get paged back in though, so

Re: updatedb

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 11:26 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 10:28 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: I still wonder what the "the swap thing" is though. People just kept saying that swap-prefetch helped which would seem to indicate their problem didnt have anything to do with upd

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 07:45 PM, Daniel Hazelton wrote: Updatedb or another process that uses the FS heavily runs on a users 256MB P3-800 (when it is idle) and the VFS caches grow, causing memory pressure that causes other applications to be swapped to disk. In the morning the user has to wait for the

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-27 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 10:28 PM, Daniel Hazelton wrote: Check the attitude at the door then re-read what I actually said: Attitude? You wanted attitude dear boy? Updatedb or another process that uses the FS heavily runs on a users 256MB P3-800 (when it is idle) and the VFS caches grow, causing

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/27/2007 09:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Rene Herman wrote: On 07/27/2007 07:45 PM, Daniel Hazelton wrote: Questions about it: Q) Does swap-prefetch help with this? A) [From all reports I've seen (*)] Yes, it does. No it does not. If updatedb filled

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 01:15 AM, Björn Steinbrink wrote: On 2007.07.27 20:16:32 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: Here's swap-prefetch's author saying the same: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/9/112 | It can't help the updatedb scenario. Updatedb leaves the ram full and | swap prefetch wants to cost as little

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 09:35 AM, Rene Herman wrote: By the way -- I'm unable to make my slocate grow substantial here but I'll try what GNU locate does. If it's really as bad as I hear then regardless of anything else it should really be either fixed or dumped... Yes. GNU locate is broken and nobody

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-28 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in at some situations swap prefetch can help becouse something that used memory freed it so there is free memory that could be filled with data (which is something that Linux does agressivly in most other situations) in some other situations

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 01:21 PM, Alan Cox wrote: It is. Prefetched pages can be dropped on the floor without additional I/O. Which is essentially free for most cases. In addition your disk access may well have been in idle time (and should be for this sort of stuff) Yes. The swap-prefetch patch

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 11:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: many -mm users use it anyway? He himself said he's not convinced of usefulness having not seen it help for him (and notice that most developers are also users), turned it off due to it annoying him at some point and hasn't seen a serious

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 01:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now you do it again :-) There is no conclusion -- just the inescapable observation that swap-prefetch was (or may have been) masking the problem of GNU locate being a program that noone in their right mind should be using. isn't your

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 03:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote: What are the tradeoffs here? What wants small chunks? Also, as far as I'm aware Linux does not do things like up the granularity when it notices it's swapping in heavily? That sounds sort of promising... Small chunks means you get better efficiency of

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 04:58 PM, Ray Lee wrote: On 7/29/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 07/29/2007 03:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote: More radically if anyone wants to do real researchy type work - how about log structured swap with a cleaner ? Right over my head. Why does log-str

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 05:20 PM, Ray Lee wrote: I understand what log structure is generally, but how does it help swapin? Look at the swap out case first. Right now, when swapping out the kernel places whatever it can wherever it can inside the swap space. The closer you are to filling your swap

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 06:04 PM, Ray Lee wrote: I am very aware of the costs of seeks (on current magnetic media). Then perhaps you can just take it on faith -- log structured layouts are designed to help minimize seeks, read and write. I am particularly bad at faith. Let's take that stupid program

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 07:19 PM, Ray Lee wrote: The program is not a real-world issue and if you do not consider it a useful boundary condition either (okay I guess), how would log structured swap help if I just assume I have plenty of free swap to begin with? Is that generally the case on your

Re: RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23]

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/29/2007 07:52 PM, Ray Lee wrote: Well, that doesn't match my systems. My laptop has 400MB in swap: Which in your case is slightly more than 1/3 of available swap space. Quite a lot for a desktop indeed. And if it's more than a few percent fragmented, please fix current swapout

Re: [PATCH] fs: Add romfs version 2

2007-07-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/30/2007 08:12 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: Lindsay Roberts wrote: * Increases romfs partition size limit from 2GB to 4GB. * Adds new derivative of romfs filesystem (rom2fs) with block aligned regular file data to bring performance parity with ext2/3. This is about 225% of the read speed of

Re: TLB sizes among x86 CPUs?

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/31/2007 08:06 AM, dean gaudet wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Rene Herman wrote: Would anyone happen to have a list of TLB sizes for some selected x86{,-64} CPUs? I know it goes from a few entries on a 386 to a lot on Opteron but I have a real hard time finding specific data. http

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/30/2007 10:25 PM, <::.. Teresa_II ..::> wrote: first of all i am not sure if its scheduler issue. But i didn't found anything about that in google related to something else. So i tried 2.6.22.1 kernel with new cfs scheduler v19.1 from Ingo page. Previous i used 2.6.22-ck1. After 24

Re: [Patch 02/16] Remove unnecessary kmalloc casts from the mips arch.

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/31/2007 02:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - desc_base = (u32)kmalloc(entries * sizeof(au1x_ddma_desc_t), + desc_base = kmalloc(entries * sizeof(au1x_ddma_desc_t), The unnessary bit in kmalloc casts is due to void pointers being assignment compatible to other pointer types

Re: Documentation files in html format?

2007-08-09 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/09/2007 05:26 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: In my experience it tends to be challenging to actually find all the packages needed for that. And then it's incredibly slow -- seems to be much slower than gcc which is somewhat of an archivement. And at least for LinuxDoc TeX usually can't even

Re: Documentation files in html format?

2007-08-09 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/10/2007 12:27 AM, Francois Romieu wrote: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : [...] I don't think that is used by Linuxdoc. Try a make pdfdocs and see for yourself. It reminds me of an old PII but it does not really make clear how html to pdf conversion would improve the situation.

Re: Partition information lost on reboot.

2007-08-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/10/2007 02:30 PM, Michal Piotrowski wrote: [Adding linux-scsi and Adaptec support to CC] On 10/08/07, Jegadeesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have a scsi disk on Adaptec ASC-29320 U320. I have created a linux partition and ext3 filesystem over it. Now the problem is, whenever the

Re: Noatime vs relatime

2007-08-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/10/2007 05:10 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 07:26:46AM -0700, Vlad wrote: ... "Warning: Atime will be disabled by default in future kernel versions, but you will still be able to turn it on when configuring the kernel." This should give a heads-up to the 0.001% of

Re: Documentation files in html format?

2007-08-10 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/10/2007 10:12 PM, Sam Ravnborg wrote: What primary requirements does in-tree Linux kernel documentation have to fulfill in general? Skipping the obvious ones such as correct, up-to-date etc. o Readable as-is o Grepable o buildable as structured documents or almost like a single book o

Re: Documentation files in html format?

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/11/2007 08:31 AM, Stefan Richter wrote: Rene Herman wrote: On 08/10/2007 10:12 PM, Sam Ravnborg wrote: What primary requirements does in-tree Linux kernel documentation have to fulfill in general? Skipping the obvious ones such as correct, up-to-date etc. o Readable as-is o Grepable o

Re: Are we properly prepared to handle 3 Socket setups?

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 03:08 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I think it's interresting enough to warrent a single mail. I just saw a news article (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41610) about a 3 Socket Opteron motherboard and couldn't help but wonder if we are prepared

[PATCH] Re: cciss: warning: right shift count >= width of type

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 02:56 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: (whoops, forgot to add maintainer to Cc - now added) Ehm... too late... On 12/08/07, Jesper Juhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've been building some randconfig kernels lately and I've noticed this in a few builds : drivers/block/cciss.c:2614:

[PATCH] Re: cciss: warning: right shift count >= width of type

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 02:28 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: I've been building some randconfig kernels lately and I've noticed this in a few builds : drivers/block/cciss.c:2614: warning: right shift count >= width of type drivers/block/cciss.c:2615: warning: right shift count >= width of type

Re: [PATCH] Re: cciss: warning: right shift count >= width of type

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 03:25 AM, Rene Herman wrote: On 08/12/2007 02:56 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: (whoops, forgot to add maintainer to Cc - now added) Ehm... too late... Useless followup though -- hp.com rejects me as it feels the SPF neutral results gmail sends due to me not using the gmail SMTP

Re: Are we properly prepared to handle 3 Socket setups?

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 03:52 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: On 12/08/07, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 08/12/2007 03:08 AM, Jesper Juhl wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I think it's interresting enough to warrent a single mail. I just saw a news article (http://www.theinquir

Re: Are we properly prepared to handle 3 Socket setups?

2007-08-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 05:29 AM, Roland Dreier wrote: > /* > * Maximum threshold is 125 > */ > threshold = min(125, threshold); > > as either the comment or the code is wrong and it seems it's the > code. What's the problem? That line sets threshold to the

Re: [PATCH] Re: cciss: warning: right shift count >= width of type

2007-08-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 08:58 AM, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: + c->Request.CDB[2]= ((u64)start_blk >> 56) & 0xff; //MSB + c->Request.CDB[3]= ((u64)start_blk >> 48) & 0xff;

Re: Are we properly prepared to handle 3 Socket setups?

2007-08-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 10:35 AM, Andrew Morton wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:17:10 +0200 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The line just below where it does that _does_ seem to have a problem: /* * Maximum threshold is 125 */ threshold = min(125, thr

Re: [PATCH] Re: cciss: warning: right shift count >= width of type

2007-08-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 10:32 PM, James Bottomley wrote: On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 07:58 +0100, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: @@ -2609,13 +2609,13 @@ static void do_cciss_request(request_queue_t *q) } else { c

Re: [BUGFIX] NULL pointer dereference in __vm_enough_memory()

2007-08-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/12/2007 05:17 PM, Alan Cox wrote: Try this (it compiles but isnt tested). Its a weekend here, the sun is shining, the beach is a short walk, and I have more interesting things to do right now 8) Oh come on, you have a beard. You can't go to the beach. Rene. - To unsubscribe from this

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-13 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/13/2007 09:16 AM, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 10:49:34PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote: I grew weary of looking up the appropriate maintainer email address(es) to CC: for a patch. Does the acronym GAFL ring any bells? It's not that idea is worthless - it sure as hell is a useful

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-13 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/13/2007 07:42 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 19:33 +0200, Mariusz Kozlowski wrote: Hello, I don't recall discusion about this so here are my 3 cents: I like the idea. I don't actually. It shows a central MAINTAINERS file is the wrong approach; just that

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-13 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 03:19 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 16:37 -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 10:42 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: The maintainer info should be in the source file itself! That's the only reasonable way to keep it updated; now I'm all for

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-13 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 03:51 AM, Rene Herman wrote: MODULE_MAINTAINER() was discussed a while ago but embedding information into the binary has the problem you can't ever change deployed systems, meaning it lags by design. If a maintainer changes, people would still be using the information from

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 11:20 AM, Alan Cox wrote: MODULE_MAINTAINER() was discussed a while ago but embedding information into the binary has the problem you can't ever change deployed systems, meaning it lags by design. If a maintainer changes, people would still be using the information from their

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 07:00 PM, Joe Perches wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 17:53 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: It isn't about MODULE_FOO() tags, it is about tagging /source/ files to help with putting CCs on patch submissals. If we want to link source file foo.c and the MAINTAINERS information, we have 3

Re: [PATCH] [443/2many] MAINTAINERS - HIBERNATION (aka Software Suspend, aka swsusp):

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 08:15 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: Quite frankly, I think the MAINTAINERS file gets a whole lot uglier this way. There's also a rather fundamental issue: this will likely make people touch the MAINTAINERS file *more*, and from a maintenance standpoint, that is exactly the wrong

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 08:28 PM, Joe Perches wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 20:03 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: "git info --maintainer drivers/ide/ide-cd.c" or some such would say "Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". Perhaps maintainer(s), approver(s), listener(s)? I think something

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/14/2007 09:33 PM, Al Viro wrote: FWIW, I suspect that we are looking at that from the wrong POV. If that's about "who ought to be Cc'd on the issues dealing with ", why does it have to be tied to "who is maintainer for "? I'm not suggesting something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 07:25 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote: Joe Perches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rene Herman had an idea about using some git metadata that might be useful. The completely external data approach suggested by Al Viro might be OK too in that it wouldn't tie listeners to git req

Re: kfree(0) - ok?

2007-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 09:28 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 14 2007 16:21, Jason Uhlenkott wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 15:55:48 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: NULL is not 0 though. It is. Its representation isn't guaranteed to be all-bits-zero, C guarantees that. C guarantees what? If

Re: kfree(0) - ok?

2007-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 11:20 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 15 2007 10:37, Rene Herman wrote: On 08/15/2007 09:28 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 14 2007 16:21, Jason Uhlenkott wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 15:55:48 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: NULL is not 0 though. It is. Its

Re: kfree(0) - ok?

2007-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 12:20 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Aug 15 2007 11:58, Rene Herman wrote: NULL is not 0 though. It is. Its representation isn't guaranteed to be all-bits-zero, He said the null _pointer_ isn't guaranteed to be all-bits zero. And it isn't. Read the standard or the faq. 0

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 11:39 AM, Stefan Richter wrote: Note, maintainer contacts - should be available to patch submitters and - must be available to *problem reporters* without having to have git and a .git repo. That "must" seems rather strong. But those few non-developer users that could care

Re: [PATCH] [1/2many] - FInd the maintainer(s) for a patch - scripts/get_maintainer.pl

2007-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/15/2007 03:33 PM, Satyam Sharma wrote: [ git info --maintainer ] I'd really _love_ a tool that does all that what you've proposed above! But why does it have to be "git-info" or anything in the git(7) suite for that matter? This sounds like a job for a different specialised tool, along

Re: Reboot hang

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/31/2007 10:28 PM, kriko wrote: I experience hangs on reboot. Precisely hang occurs when I reboot from linux. Does it matter at all if you add "reboot=b" (other options w, c, h) as a comand line parameter? Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: Reboot hang

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/31/2007 11:27 PM, kriko wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:38:32 +0200, Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does it matter at all if you add "reboot=b" (other options w, c, h) as a comand line parameter? None of that parameters worked for me. It seems they do ha

Re: Reboot hang

2007-07-31 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/31/2007 11:48 PM, kriko wrote: "Summary screen" will do, but yes, I understood. Perhaps your BIOS isn't fond of the state the Linux drivers leaves your DVD-ROM at. Judging by your "nv_pata", you are probebly usiing the pata (pata_amd) driver, not the old IDE driver? Does it boot

Re: Reboot hang FIXED

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 01:35 AM, kriko wrote: Machine hangs at summary screen where it would be trying a boot from DVD normally on cold boot, or reboot from Windows. reboot=b doesn't help. Sorted out, built 2 kernels, one with old driver, other with only new driver. The one with old driver hangs (it

Re: Reboot hang FIXED

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 10:37 AM, kriko wrote: using only new drivers works fine. ... oh well. I suppose it's not really worth it to try and debug that. Cheers. I just want to add that my DVD drive is not detected when using new driver. So back to old one You shouldn't have dropped Alan from

Re: Reboot hang FIXED

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 11:37 AM, kriko wrote: I just want to add that my DVD drive is not detected when using new driver. So back to old one You shouldn't have dropped Alan from CC then... pata_amd, right? Rene. Sorry, yes its pata_amd. IBM drive is on Primary master (detected as /dev/sdc)

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 01:31 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: another reaction below in this thread reported kbd problems in vanilla 2.6.22.1 as well. What is the X versions, etc.? Does the problem go away if the X kbd driver selection is tweaked to a simpler model, say:

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 02:34 PM, Indan Zupancic wrote: On Wed, August 1, 2007 13:01, Rene Herman wrote: Teresa was already using 2.6.22.1, with CFS (v19.1) patched in, so reverting that would be a matter of patching it out again. She said she wasn't seeing trouble on other kernels though. I

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 03:07 PM, Indan Zupancic wrote: On Wed, August 1, 2007 14:50, Rene Herman wrote: On 08/01/2007 02:34 PM, Indan Zupancic wrote: On Wed, August 1, 2007 13:01, Rene Herman wrote: Teresa was already using 2.6.22.1, with CFS (v19.1) patched in, so reverting that would be a matter

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 03:33 PM, <:::.. TeresaII ..:::> wrote: Problem is, that i can't reproduce it after last reboot. Can this be different on each reboot ? Any idea ? About another kernel: i only had -ck kernels since last year or more, i can remember i had same behavier atleast 6 month ago, or

Re: Search for x86_64 documentation.

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 03:27 PM, Francis Moreau wrote: I'm used to hack Linux on a ARM based board and would like to be involved in x86_64 architecture but I don't know where I should start... Could anyone point out some nice documentations/books describing this architecture ? First and foremost the

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 05:09 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Indan Zupancic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could have independent problems with more or less the same symptoms, at least Teresa's problem seems much worse than ours, and if you and Ingo only experience a stuck delete key, it might be something

Re: Linux Kernel cfs scheduler and xorg kbd

2007-08-01 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/01/2007 05:20 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 08/01/2007 05:09 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Indan Zupancic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could have independent problems with more or less the same symptoms, at least Teresa's problem seem

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