Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Fabrice Gautier
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:33:03 +0200 Alessandro Suardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have trouble in finding words to describe such blatant ignorance. A Troll ? oh.. geez, this was not something on the internet... -- Fabrice Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD > > from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a > > newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... > > It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt,

RE: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread lk
> Interesting. . . > > What country is that? What is it about the computer that won't allow it to > run things other than Windows - or is the TV just mistaken (I suspect so)? You don't want to know the country. Yeap, you're right. They are all just a bunch of morons. > > > Richard Schilling >

RE: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread lk
Interesting. . . What country is that? What is it about the computer that won't allow it to run things other than Windows - or is the TV just mistaken (I suspect so)? You don't want to know the country. Yeap, you're right. They are all just a bunch of morons. Richard Schilling

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt, same

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Fabrice Gautier
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:33:03 +0200 Alessandro Suardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble in finding words to describe such blatant ignorance. A Troll ? oh.. geez, this was not something on the internet... -- Fabrice Gautier [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 11:09, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > >account of the speech didn't mention it. The Fehrenbachers give the > >old-timers' recollections a D. The evidence, the scholars say, > >"suggests that this is a case of reminiscence echoing folklore or > >fiction." I don't feel NEARLY

RE: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Schilling, Richard
Interesting. . . What country is that? What is it about the computer that won't allow it to run things other than Windows - or is the TV just mistaken (I suspect so)? Richard Schilling -Original Message- From: lk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Speaking of: > A TV station in my country

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread lk
Speaking of: A TV station in my country said that the most pirated products belong to M$ because computers cannot work wothout the GUI M$ windows provides. In my country about 75% percent of M$ software are illegal copies :) > > I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Kip Macy
It's amazing what masquerades as news. It's also noteworthy that they didn't bother to have a native speaker of English to edit the article: An executive of another affiliated company said that he felt the passion of IBM, which is determined to invest US$1 billion, this year alone, in Linux.

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > The Repubblica article was bad enough, but if you want serious kernel FUD > you should see this bit of delight on AsiaBizTech: > > http://www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/fw/133671 If anybody is interested in ressurecting

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jordan Crouse wrote: > On Tuesday 26 June 2001 06:34, Alan Cox mentioned: > > > > I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a > > > FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a > > > newspaper usually telling facts in

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Corbet
The Repubblica article was bad enough, but if you want serious kernel FUD you should see this bit of delight on AsiaBizTech: http://www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/fw/133671 For example: Also, the casual attitude of Torvald [sic], which doesn't meet the

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 4:02 PM +0100 2001-06-26, Alan Cox wrote: > > > There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the >> > time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you >>cannot fool all >> > of the people all of the time'. >> >> Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) >

[OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 8:59 AM -0600 2001-06-26, Jordan Crouse wrote: > > There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the >> time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all >> of the people all of the time'. > >Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) That's the

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> > There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the > > time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all > > of the people all of the time'. > > Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) [Digs] Indeed in 1864. - To unsubscribe from this list: send

[OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jordan Crouse
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 06:34, Alan Cox mentioned: > > I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a > > FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a > > newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... > > It is common for newspaper staff

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 01:34 PM 6/26/01 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt, same with magazine people. >Sometimes because people generally believe in a cause and are not impartial >(which I've seen both pro and anti Linux btw) and sometimes because >advertising >revenue is a good

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 02:33 PM 6/26/01 +0200, Alessandro Suardi wrote: >To top this off with complete crap, after mentioning Gracenote: > > "There may be a paradoxical situation: the [Microsoft] appeal judge > may restore the Microsoft monolith that judge Jackson wanted to > break in small pieces. And in the

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD > from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a > newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt, same with magazine people. Sometimes because

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alessandro Suardi
Luigi Genoni wrote: > > HI, > > a couple of weeks ago, in Italy, on the review Affari e Finanza, that > comes with the newspaper "La Repubblica" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > one of the biggest newspapaer in > Italy, there was an article with this title: > "Also Linux goes in Tribunal" >

When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
HI, a couple of weeks ago, in Italy, on the review Affari e Finanza, that comes with the newspaper "La Repubblica" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) one of the biggest newspapaer in Italy, there was an article with this title: "Also Linux goes in Tribunal"

When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
HI, a couple of weeks ago, in Italy, on the review Affari e Finanza, that comes with the newspaper La Repubblica ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) one of the biggest newspapaer in Italy, there was an article with this title: Also Linux goes in Tribunal

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alessandro Suardi
Luigi Genoni wrote: HI, a couple of weeks ago, in Italy, on the review Affari e Finanza, that comes with the newspaper La Repubblica ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) one of the biggest newspapaer in Italy, there was an article with this title: Also Linux goes in Tribunal

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 02:33 PM 6/26/01 +0200, Alessandro Suardi wrote: To top this off with complete crap, after mentioning Gracenote: There may be a paradoxical situation: the [Microsoft] appeal judge may restore the Microsoft monolith that judge Jackson wanted to break in small pieces. And in the

[OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jordan Crouse
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 06:34, Alan Cox mentioned: I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... It is common for newspaper staff to be

[OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 8:59 AM -0600 2001-06-26, Jordan Crouse wrote: There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time'. Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) That's the common, but

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Corbet
The Repubblica article was bad enough, but if you want serious kernel FUD you should see this bit of delight on AsiaBizTech: http://www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/fw/133671 For example: Also, the casual attitude of Torvald [sic], which doesn't meet the

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jordan Crouse wrote: On Tuesday 26 June 2001 06:34, Alan Cox mentioned: I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a newspaper usually telling facts in a correct

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jonathan Corbet wrote: The Repubblica article was bad enough, but if you want serious kernel FUD you should see this bit of delight on AsiaBizTech: http://www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/fw/133671 If anybody is interested in ressurecting

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Kip Macy
It's amazing what masquerades as news. It's also noteworthy that they didn't bother to have a native speaker of English to edit the article: An executive of another affiliated company said that he felt the passion of IBM, which is determined to invest US$1 billion, this year alone, in Linux.

RE: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Schilling, Richard
Interesting. . . What country is that? What is it about the computer that won't allow it to run things other than Windows - or is the TV just mistaken (I suspect so)? Richard Schilling -Original Message- From: lk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Speaking of: A TV station in my country

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 4:02 PM +0100 2001-06-26, Alan Cox wrote: There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time'. Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) [Digs] Indeed in

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 01:34 PM 6/26/01 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt, same with magazine people. Sometimes because people generally believe in a cause and are not impartial (which I've seen both pro and anti Linux btw) and sometimes because advertising revenue is a good

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people read of a FUD from a M$ employed, then they can guess what is going on, if it is a newspaper usually telling facts in a correct way... It is common for newspaper staff to be corrupt, same with magazine people. Sometimes because

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
There is a saying in he UK 'You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time'. Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that? :) [Digs] Indeed in 1864. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread lk
Speaking of: A TV station in my country said that the most pirated products belong to M$ because computers cannot work wothout the GUI M$ windows provides. In my country about 75% percent of M$ software are illegal copies :) I suppose they received some pression from M$, but if people

Re: [OT] Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-26 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 11:09, Jonathan Lundell wrote: account of the speech didn't mention it. The Fehrenbachers give the old-timers' recollections a D. The evidence, the scholars say, suggests that this is a case of reminiscence echoing folklore or fiction. I don't feel NEARLY so bad