Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 01:38:41 Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 15, 2007, Bron Gondwana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #define Dell CFG_FAVOURITE_VENDOR A Dell desktop machine is a piece of hardware. The manufacturer has the source code (hypothetically) to the BIOS. The BIOS is required for the

Re: [patch] sched: accurate user accounting

2007-06-15 Thread malc
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Balbir Singh wrote: malc wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote: [..snip..] Now integral load matches the one obtained via the accurate method. However the report for individual cores are of by around 20% percent. I think I missed some of the context, is

Re: [RFC] TOMOYO Linux

2007-06-15 Thread Toshiharu Harada
Stephen, Thank you for your interests and comment. I'm beginning to feel that you might be misunderstanding my message. Let me explain. Stephen Smalley wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:13 +0900, Toshiharu Harada wrote: A couple of years ago, we tried to build a tool to generate SELinux policy

Re: [patch] xip sendfile removal

2007-06-15 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Jun 14 2007, Carsten Otte wrote: This patch removes xip_file_sendfile, the sendfile implementation for xip without replacement. Those customers that use xip on s390 are not using sendfile() as far as we know, and so far s390 is the only platform this could potentially be used on so

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Sean
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:24:32 -0400 Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Linus and other Linux kernels might *want* to take other people's improvements, but thanks to Richard Stallman's choices for GPLv3, they can *not* legally take other people's improvements without violating the GPLv3

Instead of GPL License - Why not LKL? (Linux Kernel License)

2007-06-15 Thread Marc Perkel
I've been somewhat following the GPL2 vs. GPL3 debate and the problem is that it leads to confusion. GPL3 is nothing like GPL2 and the GPLx leads people to believe that GPL3 is just GPL3 improved. So - just throwing out the idea that if Linus is unhappy with GPL3 that Linux lose the GPLx license

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Glauber de Oliveira Costa
As a simple matter of fact, the *only* activities covered by the GPLv2 are copying, distributing and modifying. It says so in the license itself. Unless I have explicitly installed linux myself in the box, I have received the binary from them, so it can fall in the distribution case. -- Glauber

Re: [PATCH] cdrom_sysctl_info fix

2007-06-15 Thread Dave Young
Hi, On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 07:58:47AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: Hey, no point in CC'ing me twice! [EMAIL PROTECTED] works just fine as well. I'm sorry for it , jens. Now I resend the patch after remove some checkpatch.pl warnings(line breaking trailing space). If user have many cdrom

rtc_cmos: error after first write to wakealarm

2007-06-15 Thread Tino Keitel
Hi, I have the following strange behaviour with rtc_cmos: $ echo 1181934240 /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy $ rmmod rtc_cmos $ modprobe rtc_cmos $ echo 1181934240 /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm $ echo 1181934240 /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm bash:

Re: Instead of GPL License - Why not LKL? (Linux Kernel License)

2007-06-15 Thread Glauber de Oliveira Costa
On 6/15/07, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been somewhat following the GPL2 vs. GPL3 debate and the problem is that it leads to confusion. GPL3 is nothing like GPL2 and the GPLx leads people to believe that GPL3 is just GPL3 improved. So - just throwing out the idea that if Linus is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Al Viro
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 02:16:46AM -0400, Sean wrote: There's no problem with people voicing honest disagreement with the v3, but please lighten up a bit on FSF bashing and the Greek tragedy talk. wry Would you prefer a reference to Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui? /wry - To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RFC] TOMOYO Linux

2007-06-15 Thread Toshiharu Harada
Stephen Smalley wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 23:22 +0900, Toshiharu Harada wrote: 2007/6/13, Stephen Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:13 +0900, Toshiharu Harada wrote: Here are examples: /bin/bash process invoked from mingetty: /sbin/mingetty /bin/bash /bin/bash process

Re: coding style

2007-06-15 Thread dave young
Hi, The Documentation/CodingStyle says: Outside of comments, documentation and except in Kconfig, spaces are never used for indentation, and the above example is deliberately broken. Regards dave 2007/6/15, Kok, Auke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Willy Tarreau wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:48:36PM

Re: Instead of GPL License - Why not LKL? (Linux Kernel License)

2007-06-15 Thread Kevin Bowling
On 6/14/07, Glauber de Oliveira Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been somewhat following the GPL2 vs. GPL3 debate and the problem is that it leads to confusion. GPL3 is nothing like GPL2 and the GPLx leads people to believe that GPL3 is

Re: coding style

2007-06-15 Thread debian developer
On 6/15/07, dave young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The Documentation/CodingStyle says: Outside of comments, documentation and except in Kconfig, spaces are never used for indentation, and the above example is deliberately broken. Regards dave 2007/6/15, Kok, Auke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Willy

Re: Instead of GPL License - Why not LKL? (Linux Kernel License)

2007-06-15 Thread debian developer
On 6/15/07, Kevin Bowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/14/07, Glauber de Oliveira Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been somewhat following the GPL2 vs. GPL3 debate and the problem is that it leads to confusion. GPL3 is nothing like GPL2

Re: coding style

2007-06-15 Thread dave young
Hi, 2007/6/15, debian developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And *Please* do not top-post! I know gmail directly goes to the top while replying, but think of other mail clients out there. Yes, it go to the top directly, and tabs of pasted code will be converted to white spaces, so I need use mutt to

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 02:29:32 Glauber de Oliveira Costa wrote: As a simple matter of fact, the *only* activities covered by the GPLv2 are copying, distributing and modifying. It says so in the license itself. Unless I have explicitly installed linux myself in the box, I have received

UML - Compilation problem on 2.6.22-rc4

2007-06-15 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hello, I ran into some compilations problems with UML on the 2.6.22-rc4 kernel. The problem turns up because paravirt.h is included in a couple of headers in asm-i386 without being protected by a #ifdef CONFIG_PARAVIRT. I've attached a patch to fix this (i.e. UML compiles and runs fine for me

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Jesper Juhl
On 15/06/07, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't you understand that the GPL v2 is a *software* license, it doesn't cover hardware at all. The GPLv2 is a copyright license not a software licence, indeed there is no such thing as a 'software licence'. It deals with the circumstances

Re: rtc_cmos: error after first write to wakealarm

2007-06-15 Thread Tino Keitel
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 15:59:04 +0900, Yoichi Yuasa wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:33:08 +0200 Tino Keitel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the following strange behaviour with rtc_cmos: $ echo 1181934240 /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm bash: echo: write error: Device or

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Jesper Juhl
On 15/06/07, Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2007, Daniel Hazelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Faulty logic. The hardware doesn't *restrict* you from *MODIFYING* any fscking thing. Ok, lemme try again: case 2'': tivo provides source, end user tries to improve it, realizes

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 02:59:31 Jesper Juhl wrote: snip All quite valid reasons in my opinion. and all wrong. Look up the owning and controlling interests in Tivo and you'll find the correct reason - stopping you doing evil things like keeping movies you've recorded or uploading

Re: [TOMOYO 5/9] Memory and pathname management functions.

2007-06-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Christoph Hellwig writes: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:36:09PM +0900, Kentaro Takeda wrote: We limit the maximum length of any string data (such as domainname and pathnames) to TOMOYO_MAX_PATHNAME_LEN (which is 4000) bytes to fit within a single page. Userland programs can obtain the amount of

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 14 June 2007 22:25:57 Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 14, 2007, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandre Oliva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: And since the specific implementation involves creating a derived work of the GPLed kernel (the signature, or the signed image, or

Re: [patch 4/6] SM501 MFD driver updates

2007-06-15 Thread Mariusz Kozlowski
Hello, +static int sm501_check_clocks(struct sm501_devdata *sm) +{ + unsigned long pwrmode = readl(sm-regs + SM501_CURRENT_CLOCK); + unsigned long msrc = (pwrmode SM501_POWERMODE_M_SRC); + unsigned long m1src = (pwrmode SM501_POWERMODE_M1_SRC); + + return ((msrc == 0

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 02:38:41AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 15, 2007, Bron Gondwana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #define Dell CFG_FAVOURITE_VENDOR A Dell desktop machine is a piece of hardware. The manufacturer has the source code (hypothetically) to the BIOS. The BIOS is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Michael Gerdau
Because GPLv2 doesn't enforce limitations on the hardware a GPL'd work can be put on. It doesn't make artificial distinctions between Commercial, Industrial and User. What it does is *ATTEMPT* to ensure that nobody receiving a copy of a GPL'd work has the same rights as any other person

Re: rtc_cmos: error after first write to wakealarm

2007-06-15 Thread Yoichi Yuasa
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:33:08 +0200 Tino Keitel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the following strange behaviour with rtc_cmos: $ echo 1181934240 /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy $ rmmod rtc_cmos $ modprobe rtc_cmos $ echo 1181934240

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Friday 15 June 2007 01:08, Rob Landley wrote: On Thursday 14 June 2007 07:27:59 Bernd Paysan wrote: Where is the boundary between hard- and software? Software's the bit that's infinitely replicable at zero cost. Hardware tends not to be. There's no zero cost for software replication,

Re: spurious completions during NCQ?

2007-06-15 Thread Massimiliano Hofer
On Friday 8 June 2007, Alan Cox wrote: Model Number: HITACHI HTS541680J9SA00 Serial Number: SB**I57L4A This one is already blacklisted in the windows drivers. I have the same problem with this drive (shipped with a Thinkpad Z61m): Model Number: HITACHI

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Michael Poole wrote: If the DRM signature and program executable are coupled such that they are not useful when separated, the implication to me is that they form one work that is based on the original Program. This is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Friday 15 June 2007 04:19, Linus Torvalds wrote: I will state one more time: I think that what Tivo did was and is:  (a) perfectly legal wrt the GPLv2 (and I have shown multiple times why      your arguments don't hold logical water - if you actually followed      them yourself, you

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Thursday 14 June 2007 19:20, Paulo Marques wrote: Watching the output of the first grep without wc -l shows that, although it is not 100% accurate, it is still ok just to get a rough estimate. So yes, ~6300 files are definitely more than a couple ;) Most of them don't say anything, so

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 21:44 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote: Agreed. I said I wasn't going to argue about it because there *ARE* distinctions that the law makes and the GPL ignores. You can't have it both ways. If the module is distributed *with* the kernel *SOURCE* then it doesn't matter if

Re: [RFC] TOMOYO Linux

2007-06-15 Thread Tetsuo Handa
Hello. I just now made demo movies how TOMOYO Linux looks like. http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/data/CentOS5-install.avi is a movie that demonstrates how to install TOMOYO Linux 1.4.1 on CentOS 5. http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/data/CentOS5-learning.avi is a movie that demonstrates how the TOMOYO

[RFC] LinuxPPS syscalls support

2007-06-15 Thread Rodolfo Giometti
Hello, here my first proposal for LinuxPPS implemented with new specific syscalls. I'd like some comments before sending a definitive patch. :) Rodolfo -- GNU/Linux Solutions e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Device Driver [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: drm: fix radeon setparam on 32/64 bit systems.

2007-06-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 01:59 +, Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote: Gitweb: http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9b01bd5b284bbf519b726b39f1352023cb5e9e69 Commit: 9b01bd5b284bbf519b726b39f1352023cb5e9e69 Parent:

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Thursday 14 June 2007 20:55, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: It does not matter. GPL v2 and later can be reduced to v2 by recepient. And expanded by the next recipient to GPLv2 or later, as long as the first recipient does not make a substantial modification (substantial is a copyright term - there

Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 13 2007 12:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general we think, that also for Linux it is a good thing to have documentation for the most important kernel/driver messages. Even kernel hackers not always are aware of the meaning of kernel messages for components, which they don't know in

RE: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
David Schwartz wrote : The GPL is about having the legal right to modify the software and being able to put other people's distributed improvements back into the original code base. It does not guarantee that you will actually be able to modify the software and get it to work on some

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 19:37 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 14, 2007, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] For many juridisctions loading from disk into memory is copying and in some from memory to CPU cache a second copy. This is one reason as I understand it GPLv3 talks about

Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 13 2007 12:04, Joe Perches wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 20:18 +0200, holzheu wrote: But they unfortunately do not solve our problem. We need an identifier for a documented message in order to find the right description for a message. I believe it better to simply add __FILE__ __LINE__

Re: [2.6.22-rc4] kexec failed: invalid argument

2007-06-15 Thread S.Çağlar Onur
15 Haz 2007 Cum tarihinde, Eric W. Biederman şunları yazmıştı: Sight unseen I'm guessing that you have a kexec aware distro that is doing something in the runlevel change scripts and thus unloading the kernel. What do: /sys/kernel/kexec_loaded and /sys/kernel/kexec_crash_loaded say? Not sure,

[PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Vasily Tarasov
From: Vasily Tarasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenVZ Linux kernel team has discovered the problem with 32bit quota tools working on 64bit architectures. In 2.6.10 kernel sys32_quotactl() function was replaced by sys_quotactl() with the comment sys_quotactl seems to be 32/64bit clean, enable it for

[PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Vasily Tarasov
From: Vasily Tarasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenVZ Linux kernel team has discovered the problem with 32bit quota tools working on 64bit architectures. In 2.6.10 kernel sys32_quotactl() function was replaced by sys_quotactl() with the comment sys_quotactl seems to be 32/64bit clean, enable it for

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Friday 15 June 2007 00:36, Daniel Hazelton wrote: A hundred or so messages back someone stated that the parport driver in Linux is GPLv1.1 Probably a misinterpretation - there are comments in the parport driver mentioning the GFDL version 1.1. If you just grep through, you might think it's

Re: coding style

2007-06-15 Thread Krzysztof Halasa
Kok, Auke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the current checkpatch.pl script rejects this notion and requires that you use tabs whenever you can (you can still align code within the length of one tab). Tool deficiency. -- Krzysztof Halasa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: [PATCH] atmel_lcdfb: Fix wrong line_length calculation

2007-06-15 Thread Nicolas Ferre
Haavard Skinnemoen : As Jan Altenberg pointed out, line_length will always be 0 if bits_per_pixel 8. Fix this and also make sure that we round up to the nearest byte. Signed-off-by: Haavard Skinnemoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I haven't tested this with any real program that uses the frame buffer,

[PATCH] atmel_lcdfb: Fix STN LCD support

2007-06-15 Thread Nicolas Ferre
From: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fixes STN LCD support for the atmel_lcdfb framebuffer driver. Signed-off-by: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This patch is the result of a work from Jan Altenberg and has been tested on a Hitachi SP06Q002 on at91sam9261ek. It adds a Kconfig switch

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 04:25:24 David Woodhouse wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 21:44 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote: Agreed. I said I wasn't going to argue about it because there *ARE* distinctions that the law makes and the GPL ignores. You can't have it both ways. If the module is distributed

Re: Instead of GPL License - Why not LKL? (Linux Kernel License)

2007-06-15 Thread Jarek Poplawski
On 15-06-2007 08:52, debian developer wrote: ... Even if it's just a name change, it will be a different license and requires the agreement of all authors. It's much easier( not that we want to) to go to GPLv3 than go to LKL. Doing bad things is usually much easier than good things. After

Re: drm: fix radeon setparam on 32/64 bit systems.

2007-06-15 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 09:44 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 01:59 +, Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote: Gitweb: http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9b01bd5b284bbf519b726b39f1352023cb5e9e69 Commit:

Re: /dev/loop* devices not appearing in /dev (at least since 2.6.22-rc3*)

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 14 2007 18:32, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: markus reichelt wrote: PS: Just wondering: Who came up with this on-demand hype? I don't remember the names, but i remember the root causes. Here we go: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/3/22/86 Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: /dev/loop* devices not appearing in /dev (at least since 2.6.22-rc3*)

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 14 2007 14:52, markus reichelt wrote: * Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read that now loop devices are being created on demand, which obviously (still) not works yes, someone thought this was a good idea :( It *is* a good idea. MD works that way too. Jan -- - To

[RFC] AT91: atmel_lcdfb: at91sam9261ek support for STN b/w display

2007-06-15 Thread Nicolas Ferre
From: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adds STN LCD support on at91sam9261ek. Uses a black and white screen from Hitachi : SP06Q002. Signed-off-by: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Submitted in linux-fbdev for a RFC but will make its way through the AT91 maintainer. Relies on the

Re: [patch 00/14] Page cache cleanup in anticipation of Large Blocksize support

2007-06-15 Thread David Chinner
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:23:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course there is. The seeks are reduced since there are an factor of 16 less metadata blocks. fsck does not read files. It just reads

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-15 Thread David Chinner
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 01:58:20PM +1000, Neil Brown wrote: Certainly. But the raid doesn't need to be tightly integrated into the filesystem to achieve this. The filesystem need only know the geometry of the RAID and when it comes to write, it tries to write full stripes at a time. XFS

Re: [PATCH] atmel_lcdfb: Fix STN LCD support

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Altenberg
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 10:50 +0200, Nicolas Ferre wrote: From: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fixes STN LCD support for the atmel_lcdfb framebuffer driver. Signed-off-by: Nicolas Ferre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acked-by: Jan Altenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: coding style

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Cyrill wrote: err = foo(arg_a, arg_b, arg_c, arg_d); 1234 (note: monospace font needed) Dave wrote: The Documentation/CodingStyle says: Outside of comments, documentation and except in Kconfig, spaces are never used for indentation, and the above

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Alan Cox
2) I don't know how the FSF is approaching the Linux developers, but what I've been personally trying to do in this infinite thread was mainly to set the record straight that v3 did not change the spirit of the license, like some have claimed. The FSF have certainly tried to talk to me a bit

Re: Mailing style (was Re: coding style)

2007-06-15 Thread debian developer
On 6/15/07, Bernd Petrovitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Says the one without real name who is full quoting including even the mailing list footers. hmm. including footers was a mistake. sigh! but i really dont understand why the real name is needed unless im submitting some patches! What's in

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 04:58 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote: If the module is distributed 'as a separate work', _then_ what you say is true: the only reason you'd have a right to the source is if the module is considered a 'derivative work'. But when you distribute the same module as part

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 02:24:37 Michael Gerdau wrote: Because GPLv2 doesn't enforce limitations on the hardware a GPL'd work can be put on. It doesn't make artificial distinctions between Commercial, Industrial and User. What it does is *ATTEMPT* to ensure that nobody receiving a copy of a

Re: [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP

2007-06-15 Thread Carsten Otte
Jared Hulbert wrote: An alternative approach, which does not need to have struct page at hand, would be to use the nopfn vm operations struct. That one would have to rely on get_xip_pfn. Of course! Okay now I'm begining to understand. Sorry, but I think I was educated yesterday that -fault()

Re: [Patch 09/18] fs/logfs/gc.c

2007-06-15 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 08:46:04PM +0200, Jörn Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: --- /dev/null 2007-03-13 19:15:28.862769062 +0100 +++ linux-2.6.21logfs/fs/logfs/gc.c 2007-06-03 19:18:57.0 +0200 Number of bugs in case of error looks quite sad... -- Evgeniy Polyakov - To

Mailing style (was Re: coding style)

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:17 +0530, debian developer wrote: [...] And *Please* do not top-post! Says the one without real name who is full quoting including even the mailing list footers. SCNR, Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Alan Cox
A Tivo box is a collection of literary works protected by copyright, designs protected by design patents and copyright, names and logos protected by trademarks, functionalities protected by patents and many more things. These are the things that restrict what I may do with it and how

Re: [kvm-devel] [BUG] Oops with KVM-27

2007-06-15 Thread Avi Kivity
Luca wrote: Got it! The emulator skips the writeback if the old value is unchanged, so the apic doesn't see the write. Forcing the writeback: - if ((d Mov) || (dst.orig_val != dst.val)) { - if ((d Mov) || (dst.orig_val != dst.val) || isxchg) { seems to fix the issue :D I'm

Re: [patch 0/3] no MAX_ARG_PAGES -v2

2007-06-15 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 13:58 -0700, Ollie Wild wrote: A good heuristic, though, might be to limit argument size to a percentage (say 25%) of maximum stack size and validate this inside copy_strings(). This seems to do: Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- fs/exec.c | 17

Re: drm: fix radeon setparam on 32/64 bit systems.

2007-06-15 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Friday 15 June 2007, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Only on i386. I think you just broke ppc32-on-ppc64. Indeed... I'm pretty sure the 64 bits quantity will be naturally aligned on ppc32 (and possibly others). Ok, I'll bite. I've been telling people for ages what the right solution

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Friday 15 June 2007 01:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you cannot modify the software that runs on your Tivo hardware you haven't tried very hard. Yes, but the GPLv2 clearly says that you don't have to try very hard. The preferred form of modification has to be distributed. I can run a

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Thursday 14 June 2007 22:47, David Schwartz wrote: The GPL does not require it to be easy in fact to modify the piece of software. Yes it does, section 3: The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. It then even lists that you need to

[PATCH] block: always requeue !fs requests at the front

2007-06-15 Thread Tejun Heo
SCSI marks internal commands with REQ_PREEMPT and push it at the front of the request queue using blk_execute_rq(). When entering suspended or frozen state, SCSI devices are quiesced using scsi_device_quiesce(). In quiesced state, only REQ_PREEMPT requests are processed. This is how SCSI blocks

[GIT PULL] KVM fix for 2.6.22

2007-06-15 Thread Avi Kivity
Linus, Please pull from the repository and branch at git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/avi/kvm.git for-linus to get a fix for a fairly critical bug which allows, under certain conditions, guest fpu state to find its way into the host fpu. Avi Kivity (1): KVM: Prevent guest

Re: [PATCH] Introduce compat_u64 and compat_s64 types

2007-06-15 Thread David Miller
From: Arnd Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:31:37 +0200 One common problem with 32 bit system call and ioctl emulation is the different alignment rules between i386 and 64 bit machines. A number of drivers work around this by marking the compat structures as

[PATCH] Introduce compat_u64 and compat_s64 types

2007-06-15 Thread Arnd Bergmann
One common problem with 32 bit system call and ioctl emulation is the different alignment rules between i386 and 64 bit machines. A number of drivers work around this by marking the compat structures as 'attribute((packed))', which is not the right solution because it breaks all the non-x86

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 05:30:09 Bernd Paysan wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007 01:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you cannot modify the software that runs on your Tivo hardware you haven't tried very hard. Yes, but the GPLv2 clearly says that you don't have to try very hard. The preferred form

Re: USB remote control missing keycodes

2007-06-15 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote: I have met such devices already, we are fixing their report descriptors on the fly before they enter the HID parser. I will prepare a patch for you to test (probably tomorrow, sorry). Islam, please try the patch below (against 2.6.22-rc4) and send me

Re: [PATCH] trim memory not covered by WB MTRRs

2007-06-15 Thread Pim Zandbergen
Justin Piszcz wrote: That's strange, I guess different chipsets 'chew' up different amounts of memory OR you have your DVT(?) (video-card memory/aperature) set to 256MB? I have mine set to 128MB, in top: Mem: 8039576k total, 6187304k used, 1852272k free, 696k buffers Me: Mem:

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread David Greaves
Daniel Hazelton wrote: Now for a different PoV: Do I think Tivoisation is bad for the community ? Of course I think it is but your mileage may vary. And I happen to agree with you. What I disagree with is taking steps to make bad == illegal. I also have a problem with doing things that force

Re: [PATCH] trim memory not covered by WB MTRRs

2007-06-15 Thread Pim Zandbergen
Jesse Barnes wrote: Thanks for testing, Pim. Glad it works for you. The pleasure was all on my side. Keep an eye out for BIOS upgrades, the next version might fix it. What, are you going to report this to GigaByte? Thanks, Pim - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

ZFS vs ext3/NTFS/Veritas Storage Foundation

2007-06-15 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Nice three documents with many numbers: http://blogs.sun.com/ontherecord/entry/now_available_three_new_solaris kloczek -- --- *Ludzie nie mają problemów, tylko sobie sami je stwarzają*

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 05:17:44 David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 04:58 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote: If the module is distributed 'as a separate work', _then_ what you say is true: the only reason you'd have a right to the source is if the module is considered a 'derivative

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Bernd Paysan
On Friday 15 June 2007 07:24, Theodore Tso wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:20:19PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: So, you see, your statement above, about wanting to be able to use other people's improvements, cannot be taken without qualification. No. Linus and other Linux kernels might

[no subject]

2007-06-15 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
by your argument, the user has some right to modify the software, on that piece of hardware it bought which had free software on it, correct? Yes. This means the hardware distributor who put the software in there must not place roadblocks that impede the user to get where she wants with

Re: [PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Mikael Pettersson
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:01:48 +0400, Vasily Tarasov wrote: OpenVZ Linux kernel team has discovered the problem with 32bit quota tools working on 64bit architectures. In 2.6.10 kernel sys32_quotactl() function was replaced by sys_quotactl() with the comment sys_quotactl seems to be 32/64bit

Re: 2.6.22-rc4-git5 reiserfs: null ptr deref.

2007-06-15 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:40:56 +0300 Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Hello Randy Dunlap wrote: while running fsx-linux on x86_64 system: thanks, I will take a look. Is it reproducible? If yes, would you please try on some earlier kernel? I ran the test 8 more

Re: [PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Vasily Tarasov
You can find a half-year back discussions of this patch: First attempt: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/10/19/123 Second attempt: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/10/25/57 I think they will answer your questions. Thank you, Vasily On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:03 +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun

Re: [Patch 07/18] fs/logfs/dir.c

2007-06-15 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 08:44:29PM +0200, Jörn Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: --- /dev/null 2007-03-13 19:15:28.862769062 +0100 +++ linux-2.6.21logfs/fs/logfs/dir.c 2007-06-03 19:54:55.0 +0200 ... +static int __logfs_dir_walk(struct inode *dir, struct dentry *dentry, +

Re: LogFS take four

2007-06-15 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 08:38:46PM +0200, Jörn Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This round the patch is split into file-sized hunks. There actually seem to be kernel developers not manly enough to digest 6000+ lines of code at once. An I thought I was the only wimp around. Again, anyone

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 06:18:59 David Greaves wrote: Daniel Hazelton wrote: Now for a different PoV: Do I think Tivoisation is bad for the community ? Of course I think it is but your mileage may vary. And I happen to agree with you. What I disagree with is taking steps to make bad ==

Re: [PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Friday 15 June 2007, Mikael Pettersson wrote: --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-fixed/fs/quota.c.orig2007-06-14 15:55:26.0 +0400 +++ linux-2.6.22-rc4-fixed/fs/quota.c 2007-06-14 19:50:13.0 +0400 ... +#if defined(CONFIG_X86_64) || defined(CONFIG_IA64) +/* + * This code works

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 06:03 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote: In other words, it applies to *SECTIONS* of the code, not to individual object code files. This is why kernel modules can have their own, separate license from the kernel. It isn't until the code is shipped as a *standard* part of

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Jesper Juhl
On 15/06/07, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by your argument, the user has some right to modify the software, on that piece of hardware it bought which had free software on it, correct? Yes. This means the hardware distributor who put the software in there must not place

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Friday 15 June 2007 06:02:11 Bernd Paysan wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007 07:24, Theodore Tso wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:20:19PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: So, you see, your statement above, about wanting to be able to use other people's improvements, cannot be taken without

Re: [PATCH] diskquota: 32bit quota tools on 64bit architectures

2007-06-15 Thread Vasily Tarasov
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:43 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007, Mikael Pettersson wrote: --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-fixed/fs/quota.c.orig2007-06-14 15:55:26.0 +0400 +++ linux-2.6.22-rc4-fixed/fs/quota.c 2007-06-14 19:50:13.0 +0400 ... +#if

Re: [PATCH] move the kernel to 16MB for NUMA-Q

2007-06-15 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jun 11 2007 13:51, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Jan Engelhardt wrote: (yay, 3.09 bogomips and a totally incapable processor :p) Have not tried more recent kernels yet though. Too bad I don't still have access to the 0.59 bogomips double sigma 386 machine that had the dubious honor of being the

[PATCH] block: always requeue !fs requests at the front

2007-06-15 Thread Tejun Heo
SCSI marks internal commands with REQ_PREEMPT and push it at the front of the request queue using blk_execute_rq(). When entering suspended or frozen state, SCSI devices are quiesced using scsi_device_quiesce(). In quiesced state, only REQ_PREEMPT requests are processed. This is how SCSI blocks

Re: /dev/loop* devices not appearing in /dev (at least since 2.6.22-rc3*)

2007-06-15 Thread Simon Arlott
On Fri, June 15, 2007 10:01, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Jun 14 2007 14:52, markus reichelt wrote: * Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read that now loop devices are being created on demand, which obviously (still) not works yes, someone thought this was a good idea :( It *is* a good idea.

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