RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Ronan Mullally
Thank you, Howard for some lovely corporate spin. On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, howard_sho...@dell.com wrote: Thank you very much for your comments and feedback regarding exclusive use of Dell drives. It is common practice in enterprise storage solutions to limit drive support to only those drives

Re: clearforeignconfig not clearing foreign config

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Watts
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 10:47 -0700, Stephen Dowdy wrote: Mark Watts wrote: OK, here's what I have: - Running system with a single-disk RAID-0 (disk 0:0:0) - Spare disk of same model/capacity, from another PERC5 (disk 0:0:1) I want to be able to get into a state where I can

Re: clearforeignconfig not clearing foreign config

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Watts
Irritatingly, a reboot of the server has made the foreign state go away. What's annoying is even removing/reinserting the drive didn't clear this, only a reboot did. Mark. -- Mark Watts BSc RHCE MBCS Senior Systems Engineer, Managed Services Manpower www.QinetiQ.com QinetiQ - Delivering

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Mirosław Jaworski
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 16:17 -0600, howard_sho...@dell.com wrote: Thank you very much for your comments and feedback regarding exclusive use of Dell drives. It is common practice in enterprise storage solutions to limit drive support to only those drives which have been qualified by the

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Dameon Wagner
to the list this time (sorry Eric ;-) ... On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 11:15:55PM -0600, Eric Rostetter scribbled in RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers: Quoting howard_sho...@dell.com: In the case of Dell's PERC RAID controllers, we began informing customers when a

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread s.mishima
I have PowerEdge Server with DELL certified Seagate harddisk. I bought it from DELL. The DELL certified Seagate harddisk has lock problem 1/320 probability every power-on spinup. http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931NewLang=enHilite=

RE: Missing Dependency: dell_ie_module(MPTLSI_U320)

2010-02-10 Thread Jeffrey_L_Mendoza
Error: Missing Dependency: dell_ie_module(MPTLSI_U320) is needed by package LSI2032_ven_0x1000_dev_0x0030_subven_0x1000_subdev_0x50c0-a02-1.noarch (dell-omsa-indep) Any idea where I can get dell_ie_module(MPTLSI_U320). Ah, this is for the LSI 2032 U320 SCSI controller. The update for

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Brian O'Mahony
Reminds me of my campus' IT urban folklore about the memory upgrade in an old GX360 big iron that used to run here - where IBM sold campus the upgrade and sent a team to flip the DIP switch to ENABLE it since it was already installed... this is just as predatory. Have a IBM Z890 here and

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Ronan Mullally ro...@iol.ie: Dell is no NetApp. Having used solutions from both, there's a world of a difference. You are kidding yourself if you think you're on a nearby practice ground, let alone in the same ballpark. Dell does sell enterprise storage solutions like NetApp (some

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Mirosław Jaworski m...@ikp.pl: We anxiously wait for further lock-ins. I had a slippery slope rant in my last email, but I decided to remove it before sending... See you think a bit alike... The funny thing is, when we ran DEC and SUN stuff, all Dell ever told us was why we should

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread William Warren
On 2/10/2010 12:20 PM, Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting Mirosław Jaworskim...@ikp.pl: We anxiously wait for further lock-ins. I had a slippery slope rant in my last email, but I decided to remove it before sending... See you think a bit alike... The funny thing is, when we ran DEC

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting s.mishima s.mish...@gmail.com: I have PowerEdge Server with DELL certified Seagate harddisk. I bought it from DELL. The DELL certified Seagate harddisk has lock problem 1/320 probability every power-on spinup. Yeah, I bought two of those systems too. ;) Again, thought about writing

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Jeff Boyce
Greetings I've been stewing on this topic for a while; and waiting/hoping that someone from Dell would chime in with their perspective. Now that Howard has stepped in to present the company position, it is time for me to give some feedback so that the Dell representatives following the thread

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Marti Martinez
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Bond Masuda bond.mas...@jlbond.com wrote: however, bottom line is this: Dell is trying to increase profits and they see this lock-in as a potential method to achieve that goal. if Dell customers want to see this change, you'll just need to show Dell that it

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Jeff
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Bond Masuda bond.mas...@jlbond.com wrote: however, bottom line is this: Dell is trying to increase profits and they see this lock-in as a potential method to achieve that goal. if Dell customers want to see this change, you'll just need to show Dell that it

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 09 February 2010, William Warren wrote: On 2/9/2010 5:17 PM, howard_sho...@dell.com wrote: Thank you very much for your comments and feedback regarding exclusive use of Dell drives. It is common practice in enterprise storage solutions to limit drive support to only those drives

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Preston Hagar
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Peter Kjellstrom c...@nsc.liu.se wrote: On Tuesday 09 February 2010, William Warren wrote: On 2/9/2010 5:17 PM, howard_sho...@dell.com wrote: Thank you very much for your comments and feedback regarding exclusive use of Dell drives. It is common practice in

PE2950 Memory confusion

2010-02-10 Thread John Lister
Hi, One of my PE2950 (iii) servers is complaining of ecc correctable errors so i'd like to swap the memory before they become non-correctable.. Unfortunately the server is at our remote site so i'd like to get the staff there to do the swap (it doesn't have dell memory in mainly to the

RE: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread J. Epperson
On Wed, February 10, 2010 12:27, Joe Gooch wrote: -Original Message- From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge- boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of J. Epperson Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:37 AM To: Seriously, some of us used to re-flash some of the older LSI

Re: Linux-PowerEdge Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Dupuy
John Heim writes: I hope this is not too far off topic (maybe its considered on topic [I hope]). Makes a nice change from the third-party drives thread :-) I think we can get a machine with a quad core, 32 Gb of RAM, and 300 Gb disk for under $6000. But I'm confused about disk. I would

Re: help configuring a db server

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting John G. Heim jh...@math.wisc.edu: to go) and mysql. We have databases for spamassassin bayesian rules, drupal, moodle, imp (webmail), and our own private data. Our private data is pretty small with the biggest table containing under 10,000 records. We do have a table with about 4,00

Re: help configuring a db server

2010-02-10 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:35:06PM -0600, Eric Rostetter wrote: for under $6000. But I'm confused about disk. I would think disk pspeed would be fairly important. How can I configure a machine with a fast disk? What are my options from Dell in that regard? Get the fastest RAID controller

Re: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary? (was: Linux-PowerEdge Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35)

2010-02-10 Thread Adam Nielsen
This is perhaps off-topic too, but I have always wondered... You might also want to look at getting a hardware RAID card or daughterboard like the PERC-6i - these will allow you to set up a RAID-10/50/60 that will stripe all data between two drives, giving you another twofold speed

Dell OMSA on CentOS 5.4 x86_64 - No Controllers found error - ** fixed **

2010-02-10 Thread Robin Bowes
Some of you may be interested to read this: http://yo61.com/dell-omsa-on-centos-5-4-x86_64-no-controllers-found-error.html Let me know if it works for you. R. ___ Linux-PowerEdge mailing list Linux-PowerEdge@dell.com

RE: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary? (was: Linux-PowerEdge Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35)

2010-02-10 Thread Mann, Andrew
If the power fails to the system, or the kernel crashes, the OS level cache will never be written to disk and data may be lost. In the event of a power failure, the battery backed RAID cache will be written to disk when power is restored. This allows processes that like to

RE: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary? (was: Linux-PowerEdge Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35)

2010-02-10 Thread Ryan Miller
It's about write caching. Fsync() can't return (and thus, e.g., your sql transaction can't return committed) until the data is on durable storage (that's what the D in ACID means). Battery-backed cache on the controller counts, because if you pull the plug, the data will still get to disk.

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Please, email your Dell customer rep and complain about this! I did. I contacted my Dell customer rep and he forwarded my complain to the product support group. He said they may re-evaluate things if lots of people complain. (I can hope...) We don't have the Dell R710's, and I still

Re: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary? (was: Linux-PowerEdge Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35)

2010-02-10 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Adam Nielsen wrote: This is perhaps off-topic too, but I have always wondered... You might also want to look at getting a hardware RAID card or daughterboard like the PERC-6i - these will allow you to set up a RAID-10/50/60 that will stripe all data between two

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jason Edgecombe wrote: Please, email your Dell customer rep and complain about this! I did. I contacted my Dell customer rep and he forwarded my complain to the product support group. He said they may re-evaluate things if lots of people complain. (I can hope...)

Re: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary?

2010-02-10 Thread Adam Nielsen
If the power fails to the system, or the kernel crashes, the OS level cache will never be written to disk and data may be lost. In the event of a power failure, the battery backed RAID cache will be written to disk when power is restored. This allows processes that like to confirm their data

Re: RAID battery-backed cache - necessary?

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Adam Nielsen adam.niel...@uq.edu.au: Ahh, okay, so it's not there for pure write speed as such, it's there so that software can be told yes, the data you just wrote is now on disk no matter what even though the actual disk write may happen at a later time. Yes, all true. But it is

Re: Third-party drives not permitted on Gen 11 servers

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Wednesday 10 February 2010, John Oliver wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:36:54AM -0500, J. Epperson wrote: And UPSs!  We must ensure that we have appropriately proprietarily conditioned power for our proprietary servers.  And no third party replacement batteries either.  Lord only knows