Re: Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running

2006-02-06 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, David Liontooth wrote: In designing an archival system, we're trying to find data on when it pays to power or spin the drives down versus keeping them running. Is there a difference between spinning up the drives from sleep and from a reboot? Leaving out the cost imposed on

Question: read-only array

2006-02-06 Thread Chris Osicki
Hi I've just noticed that setting an array readonly doesn't really make it readonly. I have a RAID1 array and LVM on top of it. When I run /sbin/mdadm --misc --readonly /dev/md0 /proc/mdstat shows: Personalities : [raid1] md0 : active (read-only) raid1 sda[0] sdb[1] 160436096 blocks

Re: Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running

2006-02-06 Thread David Liontooth
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, David Liontooth wrote: In designing an archival system, we're trying to find data on when it pays to power or spin the drives down versus keeping them running. Hitachi claims 5 years (Surface temperature of HDA is 45°C or less) Life of the

Re: Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running

2006-02-06 Thread Francois Barre
2006/2/6, David Liontooth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, David Liontooth wrote: For their deskstar (sata/pata) drives I didn't find life time estimates beyond 5 start-stop-cycles. If components are in fact manufactured to fail simultaneously under

Re: [RFC][PATCH 000 of 3] MD Acceleration and the ADMA interface: Introduction

2006-02-06 Thread Dan Williams
On 2/5/06, Neil Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked through the patches - not exhaustively, but hopefully enough to get a general idea of what is happening. There are some things I'm not clear on and some things that I could suggest alternates too... I have a few questions to check

Re: Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running

2006-02-06 Thread Brad Dameron
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 15:42 -0800, David Liontooth wrote: In designing an archival system, we're trying to find data on when it pays to power or spin the drives down versus keeping them running. Is there a difference between spinning up the drives from sleep and from a reboot? Leaving out

Re: Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running

2006-02-06 Thread Dan Stromberg
Drives are probably going to have a lifetime that is proportionate to a variety of things, and while I'm not a physicist or mechanical engineer, nor in the hard disk business, the things that come to mind first are: 1) Thermal stress due to temperate changes - with more rapid changes being more

Raid 1 always degrades after a reboot.

2006-02-06 Thread Hans Rasmussen
Hi all. After every reboot, my brand new Raid1 array comes up degraded. It's always /dev/sdb1 that is unavailable or removed. The hardware is as follows.. 2x200MB Seagate SATA drives, in RAID 1 These are for data only, OS is on a separate IDE disk. LVM Partitions for my data on

Re: [klibc] Re: Exporting which partitions to md-configure

2006-02-06 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Neil Brown wrote: What constitutes 'a piece of data'? A bit? a byte? I would say that msdos:fd is one piece of data. The 'fd' is useless without the 'msdos'. The 'msdos' is, I guess, not completely useless with the fd. I would lean towards the composite, but I wouldn't fight a

Re: Raid5 Debian Yaird Woes

2006-02-06 Thread dean gaudet
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, Lewis Shobbrook wrote: On Saturday 04 February 2006 11:22 am, you wrote: On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Lewis Shobbrook wrote: Is there any way to avoid this requirement for input, so that the system skips the missing drive as the raid/initrd system did previously? what boot

Problems making a RAID-0 over 2 gpt partitions...

2006-02-06 Thread James Lamanna
I recently acquired a 7TB Xserve RAID. It is configured in hardware as 2 RAID 5 arrays of 3TB each. Now I'm trying to configure a RAID 0 over these 2 drives (so RAID 50 in total). I only wanted to make 1 large partition on each array, so I used parted as follows: parted /dev/sd[bc] (parted)

Re: [RFC][PATCH 000 of 3] MD Acceleration and the ADMA interface: Introduction

2006-02-06 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:25:22PM -0700, Dan Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 2/5/06, Neil Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked through the patches - not exhaustively, but hopefully enough to get a general idea of what is happening. There are some things I'm not clear on and