Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Tim Southerwood
Hi Steve,

Steve Fairbairn wrote:

snip

 Is anyone using an array with disks on PCI interface cards?

Almost, I have a Sil3132 PCI-E card (2 port SATA-300) mixed with 6 on
board ports (on Asus M2N-E mobo). No problems there, I quite pleased
with it.

 Is there an issue with mixing motherboard interfaces and PCI card based
 ones?

Not fundamentally. Speed issues may depend on whether the PCI bus to the
sockets is shared with the on board SATA chip, or if they are off
different busses.

 Does anyone recommend any inexpensive (probably SATA-II) PCI interface
 cards?

Unfortunately, the SiL3132 doesn't have an obvious PCI sibling.

You might consider a SiL3124 based card:

http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?id=27

example card here:

http://www.satacard.com/

Price isn't so cheap though. If you can drop to SATA-150 (SATA I) then
you get the SiL3114 chips which are much more common (=cheap).

I can't vouch personally for those other chips, but I remember seeing
favourable reviews when I was searching for for SATA controllers.


Sorry I can't be of more help - just chucking some ideas back...

Cheers

Tim
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Bill Davidsen

Steve Fairbairn wrote:

Can anyone see any issues with what I'm trying to do?
  


No.


Are there any known issues with IT8212 cards (They worked as straight
disks on linux fine)?
  


No idea, don't have that card.


Is anyone using an array with disks on PCI interface cards?
  


Works. I've mixed PATA, SATA, onboard, PCI, and firewire (lack of 
controllers is the mother of invention). As long as the device under the 
raid works, the raid should work.



Is there an issue with mixing motherboard interfaces and PCI card based
ones?
  


Not that I've found.


Does anyone recommend any inexpensive (probably SATA-II) PCI interface
cards?
  


Not I. Large drives have have cured me of FrankenRAID setups recently, 
other than to build little arrays out of USB devices for backup.


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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Iustin Pop
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:54:55AM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:
 The promise tx4 pci works great and supports sata/300+ncq/etc $60-$70.

Wait, I have used tx4 pci up until ~2.6.22 and it didn't support AFAIK
ncq. Are you sure that current driver supports NCQ? I might then revive
that card :)

thanks,
iustin
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Iustin Pop wrote:


On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:54:55AM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:

The promise tx4 pci works great and supports sata/300+ncq/etc $60-$70.


Wait, I have used tx4 pci up until ~2.6.22 and it didn't support AFAIK
ncq. Are you sure that current driver supports NCQ? I might then revive
that card :)

thanks,
iustin



Whoa nice catch, I meant the Promise 300 TX4 which now retails for $59.99 
w/free ship.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816102062

Justin.
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Iustin Pop
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:24:15PM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:


 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Iustin Pop wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:54:55AM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:
 The promise tx4 pci works great and supports sata/300+ncq/etc $60-$70.

 Wait, I have used tx4 pci up until ~2.6.22 and it didn't support AFAIK
 ncq. Are you sure that current driver supports NCQ? I might then revive
 that card :)

 thanks,
 iustin


 Whoa nice catch, I meant the Promise 300 TX4 which now retails for $59.99 
 w/free ship.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816102062

:)

Actually, I exactly meant Promise 300 TX4 (the board is in my hand: chip
says PDC40718). The HW supports NCQ, but the linux sata_promise driver
didn't support NCQ when I tested it. Can someone confirm it does today
(2.6.24) NCQ?

iustin
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Iustin Pop wrote:


On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:24:15PM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:



On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Iustin Pop wrote:


On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:54:55AM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote:

The promise tx4 pci works great and supports sata/300+ncq/etc $60-$70.


Wait, I have used tx4 pci up until ~2.6.22 and it didn't support AFAIK
ncq. Are you sure that current driver supports NCQ? I might then revive
that card :)

thanks,
iustin



Whoa nice catch, I meant the Promise 300 TX4 which now retails for $59.99
w/free ship.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816102062


:)

Actually, I exactly meant Promise 300 TX4 (the board is in my hand: chip
says PDC40718). The HW supports NCQ, but the linux sata_promise driver
didn't support NCQ when I tested it. Can someone confirm it does today
(2.6.24) NCQ?

iustin



I used the board with a Seagate 400GiB/NCQ drive and I recall seeing Port 
Up 3.0Gbps/NCQ (31/32) within the scrolling text upon boot--

but it was awhile ago.

Justin.
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote:


Steve Fairbairn wrote:

Can anyone see any issues with what I'm trying to do?



No.


Are there any known issues with IT8212 cards (They worked as straight
disks on linux fine)?



No idea, don't have that card.


Is anyone using an array with disks on PCI interface cards?



Works. I've mixed PATA, SATA, onboard, PCI, and firewire (lack of controllers 
is the mother of invention). As long as the device under the raid works, the 
raid should work.



Is there an issue with mixing motherboard interfaces and PCI card based
ones?



Not that I've found.


Does anyone recommend any inexpensive (probably SATA-II) PCI interface
cards?



Not I. Large drives have have cured me of FrankenRAID setups recently, other 
than to build little arrays out of USB devices for backup.


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Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still
be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark 


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The promise tx4 pci works great and supports sata/300+ncq/etc $60-$70.

Justin.
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Does anyone recommend any inexpensive (probably SATA-II) PCI interface
cards?

See this message and surrounding thread from November 2007 on
the linux-ide list.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg12726.html
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