Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-25 Thread Ray Lee
On 10/25/07, Bernd Petrovitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mit, 2007-10-24 at 17:35 -0700, Ray Lee wrote: [] Key-based masterlocks are easily broken with freon, and their combo locks are easily brute-forced in about ten minutes. Yet, I'll still use them to lock up my bike and garage

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-25 Thread Ray Lee
On 10/24/07, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea that poor security is worse than no security is fallacious, and not backed up by common experience. There is a ton of evidence both in computing and outside of it which shows that poor security can be very much worse than no security

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-24 Thread Ray Lee
On 10/24/07, Chris Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Casey Schaufler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: And don't give me the old LKML is a tough crowd feldercarb. Security modules have been much worse. Innovation, even in security, is a good thing and treating people harshly, even for their own