RE: download RH

2002-11-13 Thread shaun
Can someone point me to where RedHat resides on ftp.jetstreamgames.co.nz Do they have Mandrake as well? Shaun If you have full speed jetstream changing to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] will also mean that the download from ftp://ftp.jetstreamgames.co.nz will not count against your data usage. No

Re: Meeting tomorrow night - personal safety

2002-11-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:13, Tim Wright wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Ben Devine wrote: umm Bar, My mother wouldn't be too impressed if it is in a bar/tavern. It's not really a bar. It does have a bar tho, but we met in a seperate room. really

Re: download RH

2002-11-13 Thread Zane Gilmore
ftp://ftp.phys.canterbury.ac.nz/pub/ On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 04:44, Terry Cole wrote: Where can I download the latest RH. I have Jetstream at school and wish to upgrade the www server. cheers Terry Kay Cole Rotorua, New Zealand mailto:terry;cole.gen.nz mailto:kay;cole.gen.nz

RE: download RH

2002-11-13 Thread cha93
It would appear they've removed it. = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Can someone point me to where RedHat resides on ftp.jetstreamgames.co.nz Do they have Mandrake as well? Shaun If you have full speed jetstream changing to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] will also mean that the

Re: Whats hogging cpu time (without top)

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:01:15PM +1300, David A. Mann wrote: Anyway its ps is a shell hack that obtains stats from the proc tree and dosen't show cpu usage. Ho hum. Can anyone tell me whereabouts in /proc you find cpu usage? Its messy. If there is an easy way I'd love to know because

Re: Whats hogging cpu time (without top)

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:50:18PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: top -b -n1 | grep ^Cpu(s): | awk '{print $2+$4+$6}' Of course, that is *HIDEOUSLY* specific to my top. (you want this line, or its equivalent: Cpu(s): 0.4% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.5% idle, 0.0% IO-wait $1

Re: Dick Smith Linux Systems

2002-11-13 Thread Wesley Parish
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 11:38 am, you wrote: Beer is legal in Saudi Arabia. The trouble is it has no alcohol in it I expect the pig-eating Muslims of Kosovo wash their pork and ham down with a few good beers. The news I heard from Palestine just after it had been trashed by Ariel Sharon

It's Aliiiive!

2002-11-13 Thread Paul
thanks Nick for the suggestion about using the text install for RH8.0 - left Disk one chugging away when I left for work yesterday afternoon - 1130 last night I got home and changed it to disk tw0 and walked away again - this morning I have RH8 installed on my system - only required a

Re: Meeting tomorrow night - personal safety

2002-11-13 Thread Peter Cornelius
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Ben Devine wrote: umm Bar, My mother wouldn't be too impressed if it is in a bar/tavern. It's not really a bar. It does have a bar tho, but we met in a seperate room. really plush carpet and nice chairs with tables. Almost reminded me of a place you could have a jazz

Re: Meeting tomorrow night - personal safety

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Devine
Well someone was saying about a school hall. What about the university, Or a school hall I just happen to goto one with a ten megabit connection.. *ben drewls from mouth will he KICKS stupid dial-up modem* |Ben ___Get the FREE email

Did we ever decide......

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Devine
Did we (CLUG) ever decide on.. 1.) What we were going to do with the funds. 2.) If we are going to hold another Installfeszt. |Ben

Re: Whats hogging cpu time (without top)

2002-11-13 Thread Maillist
I tried top -b -n2 | grep ^CPU | tail -1 | awk '{print $3+$5+$7}' for procps 2.0.8 and it simply returned 1.4? 1.4%? 140%? What is the 1.4 ? Paul

Re: Did we ever decide......

2002-11-13 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
I think both should be directed towards some sort of 'linux expo', get businesses involved and make it high profile, business acceptance is more important than home user acceptance IMHO. From: Ben Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/11/14 Thu AM 08:17:53 GMT+13:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: rpm --rebuild

2002-11-13 Thread Lance BLACKLER
Thanks for the assistance - I found some good info here http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/rpmbuild8.html so I will try that out later (oop's meeting tonight - might be a bit later than I was thinking). I got mislead by the instructions on the Linmodem site, but it looks clearer now. ciao

Re: Whats hogging cpu time (without top)

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 08:28:02AM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: top -b -n2 | grep ^CPU | tail -1 | awk '{print $3+$5+$7}' for procps 2.0.8 and it simply returned 1.4? 1.4%? 140%? What is the 1.4 ? 1.4%, what else? you should know that you cant get 140% CPU usage. The other thing you

Re: Meeting tomorrow night - personal safety

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
well we did last time Peter. On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:03:54 +1300 Peter Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Ben Devine wrote: umm Bar, My mother wouldn't be too impressed if it is in a bar/tavern. It's not really a bar. It does have a bar tho, but we met in a

Re: Did we ever decide......

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
What on earth are you trying to say Leo? On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:53:02 +1300 Overview Presentations [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo wrote Yes we decided about an other installfest BY DOING NOTHING or BY GOING TO SLEEP take your pick. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
Roll up roll up. Tonight, 7.30 for your edification entertainment! *General Business *Gentoo distro *Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview *Standing around peering over peoples shoulders as they show off their linux boxes. (Chris Bayley I are gonna try and get remote X going over wireless :-)

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Nick Rout wrote: Roll up roll up. Tonight, 7.30 for your edification entertainment! I should give my apology...can't make it tonight. There's a massive international DJ coming to town (Kid Loco---from Paris), and doors open at

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Yuri de Groot
*Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa! He made an OS, not a universe. sheesh - perspective :-) linux boxes. (Chris Bayley I are gonna try and get remote X going over wireless :-) Yay! This is my dream - a grunty server in the basement and a light notebook running X over wireless.

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:22:10AM +1200, Yuri de Groot wrote: *Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa! He made an OS, not a universe. sheesh - perspective :-) there is a difference? *evil grin* greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Yuri de Groot
*Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa! He made an OS, not a universe. sheesh - perspective :-) there is a difference? *evil grin* We had this thread last year IIRC. Apparently the universe is a simulation, and judging by the code fragments lying around, God programmed it using oberon.

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Mark Tomlinson
*Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa! He made an OS, not a universe. sheesh - perspective :-) And I thought he only made a kernel. I'd rate the gnu tools/compiler as being a more significant part of the OS. - Mark

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
If I wanted to listen to someone playing records, I'd go round to my dads place ;-) From: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/11/14 Thu AM 10:21:17 GMT+13:00 To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Meeting reminder I should give my apology...can't make it tonight. There's a massive

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: If I wanted to listen to someone playing records, I'd go round to my dads place ;-) aaah, but I want to listen to someone playing good records. :p (and multiple records at the same time. and scratching them up and around: deconstructing music and

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
That sounds excellent, but I don't think my wife will believe me if I say I was at a linux meeting until 4.00 am! On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:21:17 +1300 (NZDT) Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should give my apology...can't make it tonight. There's a massive international DJ coming to town

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Nick Rout wrote: That sounds excellent, but I don't think my wife will believe me if I say I was at a linux meeting until 4.00 am! 6am ;) Bring her along. (mind you, electronic music, much like Linux, is an acquired taste:) I wonder if there's some analogy we can make

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Ahhh, but whats crappier, the music or the people dumb enough to buy it? From: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/11/14 Thu AM 11:19:10 GMT+13:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Meeting reminder On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Nick Rout wrote: I wonder if there's some analogy we can make

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Thats a matter of opinion!! From: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/11/14 Thu AM 10:46:01 GMT+13:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Meeting reminder On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: aaah, but I want to listen to someone playing good records. :p (and

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Paul_Mannering
Force yourself to sit through 'Josie and the Pussycats' (out now on DVD and Video) sometime... it illustrated that point nicely (of course the babes in it were nice too). Jeremy Bertenshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14/11/2002 11:34:18 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL

Re: Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 11:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Force yourself to sit through 'Josie and the Pussycats' (out now on DVD and Video) sometime... it illustrated that point nicely (of course the babes in it were nice too). The movie is very good, so it is not much of an effort :) --

Re: CLUG meeting Linux Distro talk

2002-11-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:37, you wrote: Hi, Its a shame we have had no replys on the below request. I don't know how long Nick can speak about Gentoo! Does anyone else have anything they could talk about.? I have just had confirmation that the computer suite will be available during January

RE: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Bryce Stenberg
Hi All, I'm new to using Linux. Can someone please explain to me what is meant by a 'winmodem'? What is different about it from non-winmodems? I have a serial modem at home. It works with windows (does that make it a winmodem?) and linux. Regards, Bryce Stenberg. [ Ignorance use to

RE: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Steve Bell
My understanding is that a winmodem is more software based than hardware based, and relies on Win to make it 'go'. Serial modems are entirely hardware based. Your serial modem is fine! -Original Message- From: Bryce Stenberg [mailto:bryce;hrnz.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2002

RE: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Paul_Mannering
Hi Bryce - new user myself and I'm wrestling with winmodems at the moment - so a few thoughts from the front line. Winmodems are modems with a variety of brandnames - and based on chipsets (like PCTEL) that are designed exclusively for use with M$ windows OS's. www.linmodems.org and it's

RE: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Paul_Mannering
Or as Steve said - you have a serial modem - so you dont have a problem : -) - The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete

Re: Music choices

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, G. M. Bodnar wrote: That being said, every genre seems to have a crap layer above the good stuff. But almost every genre has a few redeeming performers. (I say almost because I have yet to hear any house or hip hop that

Re: CLUG meeting Linux Distro talk

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Elder
On Thursday 14 Nov 2002 2:01 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:37, you wrote: Hi, Its a shame we have had no replys on the below request. I don't know how long Nick can speak about Gentoo! Does anyone else have anything they could talk about.? I have just had

Re: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
hold on a winmodem still looks like a serial modem to the system (with the windows driver installed). Mine looks to windows as if its on com4. On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:42:26 +1300 Steve Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is that a winmodem is more software based than hardware based,

Re: CLUG meeting Linux Distro talk

2002-11-13 Thread Paul_Mannering
yeah - anything involving linux training for the masses - is worth listening to. Nick Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14/11/2002 14:56:20 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: CLUG meeting Linux Distro

Re: Music choices

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Tim Wright wrote: House: hmm, don't know much about house. Mr Fingers (aka Larry Heads) does damn spell checkers. Try Larry Heard. tim http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

RE: Modem Reccomendation

2002-11-13 Thread Yuri de Groot
A technical run-down in laymans terms: A better label than winmodem/non-winmodem would be hardware modem vs software modem. A hardware modem has the physical circuitry to modulate the communication signals down the telephone line. A software modem lacks some of the specialised hardware, and

Re: Music choices

2002-11-13 Thread G. M. Bodnar
Tim Wright is on permanent record as saying: :-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- :Hash: SHA1 : :Tim's reccomended listning guide (because he's done *two* history of :electronic music shows on RDU this year): : :Hip Hop: try Jurassic 5 or A Tribe Called Quest. Michael Franti for very :funky

Re: Music choices

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
I have two Spearhead cd's (starring the said Mr Franti).They are superb - as you say political funky. Pretty good for old conservative lawyer fella? On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:53:55 +1300 (NZDT) Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Franti for very funky political stuff (he's very good,

Re: Music choices

2002-11-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
This stuff, while interesting to a few, is _totally_ Off Topic. Its presence on the Lunux Users list is because the mis-configured mail-list server munges around with the Reply-To: header line. Please could folks please take care to ensure that private mail does not get onto the list by mistake

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Hellyar
*Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa! He made an OS, not a universe. sheesh - perspective :-) That was a bit of a stretch, I'll give you that... linux boxes. (Chris Bayley I are gonna try and get remote X going over wireless :-) Yay! This is my dream - a grunty server in the basement

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Paul_Mannering
just toss in some bikini clad beach babes who can compile kernel ooohyea. Chris Hellyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14/11/2002 15:48:46 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Meeting reminder *Linus Torvalds (aka god) BBC interview Whoa!

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Wright
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just toss in some bikini clad beach babes who can compile kernel ooohyea. h no. insert string of expletives here :( i havn't the energy to be rude this afternoon --- can someone do it for me. :) tim

Re: Whats hogging cpu time (without top)

2002-11-13 Thread David A. Mann
Michael Beattie wrote: Believe it or not, Load average is a better indicator of CPU usage, but in linux it sucks.. snip For the load average you can look at /proc/loadavg. First 3 numbers are the 1/5/10 minute averages, the next two numbers (separated with a forward slash just to make

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread David A. Mann
Yuri de Groot wrote: Yay! This is my dream - a grunty server in the basement and a light notebook running X over wireless. Setting on the veranda with a cold beer, doing my work from a deck chair. Now I just gotta find a job where I can telecommute. My dream is lying in a hammock outside

URGENT open Office slideshow help!

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Rout
Once I am running tonight's slide show, i don't seem to be able to switch to another program, as the slideshow stays in front. can anyone help with this problem??

Re: URGENT open Office slideshow help!

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Devine
Couldn't You just put them in different Shells You know ctrl+alt+f7. Ben <-Original Message-> ---Once I am running tonight's slide show, i don't seem to be able to ---switch to another program, as the slideshow stays in front. --- ---can anyone help with this problem?? ---. ---

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:48:46PM +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote: linux boxes. (Chris Bayley I are gonna try and get remote X going over wireless :-) Yay! This is my dream - a grunty server in the basement and a light notebook running X over wireless. Setting on the veranda with a cold beer,

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Vik Olliver
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 17:48, David A. Mann wrote: Yuri de Groot wrote: Yay! This is my dream - a grunty server in the basement and a light notebook running X over wireless. Setting on the veranda with a cold beer, doing my work from a deck chair. Now I just gotta find a job where I can

Re: URGENT open Office slideshow help!

2002-11-13 Thread Vik Olliver
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 18:03, Ben Devine wrote: Couldn't You just put them in different Shells You know ctrl+alt+f7. No. And you know what? I can't make it play an MPEG either. GIFs don't have sound! Vik :v)

Re: Meeting reminder

2002-11-13 Thread Vik Olliver
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 19:59, Michael Beattie wrote: Hmm. I have all of that except the porch oh, and the server isnt really that grunty. I'll go one better... my servers are in a rack in the basement (garage really). In fact, I've currently got a digital camera on loan from the shop next