On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 16:12 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
No, It's almost certainly cheaper to consolidate the infrastructure
for all of Australasia in one place.
Doesn't this render Xtra's e-mail liable to random manipulation and
examination by Australian anti-terrorism legislation?
Vik
On 8/27/07, Vik Olliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 16:12 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
No, It's almost certainly cheaper to consolidate the infrastructure
for all of Australasia in one place.
Doesn't this render Xtra's e-mail liable to random manipulation and
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one semi-serious unplanned outage. About an hour one morning. It was
fixed pretty quickly, after I told them about it. Otherwise it's been
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On 8/27/07, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tried woosh
6 months of frustration before I gave up.
I'm only 150m from the tower and it still didn't work correctly.
Do you know why?
Stick with the copper Orcon has been ok for me.
Nah,
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one semi-serious unplanned outage. About an hour one morning. It was
fixed pretty quickly,
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 19.26 skrev yuri:
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one semi-serious unplanned outage. About an hour one
On Mon, August 27, 2007 7:26 pm, yuri wrote:
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one semi-serious unplanned outage. About an hour
On 8/27/07, yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one semi-serious unplanned outage. About an hour
On 27/08/07, Nick Rout wrote:
On Mon, August 27, 2007 7:26 pm, yuri wrote:
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had only
one
Isn't Telstra cable the fastest upload and download for the price (locally
available)?
ok Telstra Cable is somewhat more expensive than some of the ADSL
connections offered by the retailers Telecom use, but imho it's a far
superior product.
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell
On 27/08/07, Nick Rout wrote:
On Mon, August 27, 2007 7:26 pm, yuri wrote:
On 27/08/07, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 17:37:48, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
I have been with Telstra Cable since they arrived and have had
only
one semi-serious
On 27/08/07, alanw wrote:
Isn't Telstra cable the fastest upload and download for the price (locally
available)?
Yes and no.
Yes it's the fastest.
No it's not locally available (unless you are lucky enough to live
where they laid cable).
This is a sore point for me because I want to stay out
On Aug 27, 2007 19:20:23, Nick Rout wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
Sure, but where in ChCh can you get fibre to residential premises?
Anywhere, but be prepared to pay vast build costs if fibre isn't nearby
already, and expect high monthly costs compared to cable or ADSL ($2k/mo
for
On Aug 27, 2007 19:48:19, Stein Magne wrote:
Telstra Clear was down today, 10-20min I think :( And I the support is
really slow. Used 7 days to answer my mail. AND the have some proxy caching
servers that are messing up my vhost in Apache. If you have defined only
the servernames in your
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 21.43 skrev Jasper Bryant-Greene:
On Aug 27, 2007 19:48:19, Stein Magne wrote:
Telstra Clear was down today, 10-20min I think :( And I the
support is
really slow. Used 7 days to answer my mail. AND the have some
proxy caching
servers that are messing up my vhost in
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 21.38 skrev Jasper Bryant-Greene:
On Aug 27, 2007 19:20:23, Nick Rout wrote:
Fibre is infinitely superior.
Sure, but where in ChCh can you get fibre to residential premises?
Anywhere, but be prepared to pay vast build costs if fibre isn't
nearby
already, and expect
On Aug 27, 2007 21:58:11, Stein Magne wrote:
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 21.38 skrev Jasper Bryant-Greene:
Anywhere, but be prepared to pay vast build costs if fibre isn't nearby
already, and expect high monthly costs compared to cable or ADSL ($2k/mo
for 10Mbit symmetric is a reasonable cost in my
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Doesn't this render Xtra's e-mail liable to random manipulation and
examination by Australian anti-terrorism legislation?
Almost certainly, perhaps that's why it's happened.
Agreed. I just wouldn't be using Xtra unless you're happy that your
email is open to
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:14:30 +1200
Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 27, 2007 21:58:11, Stein Magne wrote:
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 21.38 skrev Jasper Bryant-Greene:
Anywhere, but be prepared to pay vast build costs if fibre isn't nearby
already, and expect high monthly
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Hybrid. Coax to big green box (not the smaller green boxes outside
your houses) then fibre from there.
Data and TV are imposed on to coax in the big plastic box that sits next
to the bit 19 rack cabinets.
Everything is sent from town on fibre. The telephone is
On Mon 27 Aug 2007 22:31:13 NZST +1200, Don Gould wrote:
Agreed. I just wouldn't be using Xtra unless you're happy that your
email is open to the whole world.
And the difference to any other ISP is? Email is unencrypted. Big
Brother America is reading every bit of it.
Volker
--
Volker
Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the NZ ISPs don't percieve a great demand for fibre to the home
just yet, so pricing-wise it's still directed strictly at businesses.
They may be right, but I suspect they will become less so over time.
Steve Holdoway wrote:
Why should
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
On Mon 27 Aug 2007 22:31:13 NZST +1200, Don Gould wrote:
Agreed. I just wouldn't be using Xtra unless you're happy that your
email is open to the whole world.
And the difference to any other ISP is? Email is unencrypted. Big
Brother America is reading every bit of
I've been with clear.net on dial-up for 10 years and haven't made the switch to
broadband yet. (I'd prefer to support wireless and detest traffic charges.)
I got a clear account bundled with the computer I bought, and that was alright
with me because Telecom's phone service sucked. (I switched
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 23.15 skrev alanw:
I've been with clear.net on dial-up for 10 years and haven't made
the switch to broadband yet. (I'd prefer to support wireless and
detest traffic charges.)
I got a clear account bundled with the computer I bought, and that
was alright with me
On 8/27/07, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
On Mon 27 Aug 2007 22:31:13 NZST +1200, Don Gould wrote:
Agreed. I just wouldn't be using Xtra unless you're happy that your
email is open to the whole world.
And the difference to any other ISP is? Email is
Hi there
In my time working for islug, we found that if you are to close to
the transmitter it overloads the signal, some limited succes came
from removing the diah
Scott
At 11:53 PM 8/26/2007, you wrote:
Tried woosh
6 months of frustration before I gave up.
I'm only 150m from the
On Monday 27 August 2007 11:15 pm, alanw wrote:
But I'd be interested to know how anyone on this list rates TelstraClear's
broadband, either paradise.net or clear.net.
Helpdesk response is slow - IMHO
On Monday 27 August 2007 11:29 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
AFAIK Orcon is effectivly just a retailer for Telecom
From the Orcon home page
Orcon is New Zealand's largest 100% Kiwi-owned and fastest growing Internet
Service Provider
I have been with them for about 5 years and the only
Had Clear broadband for 9 months before breaking my 12 month contract
because there phone support sucked ! Xnet is cheaper ,no contract and
has much better support.
On 27/08/07 23:25:12, Stein Magne wrote:
Den 27. aug. 2007 kl. 23.15 skrev alanw:
I've been with clear.net on dial-up for
Robert Fisher wrote:
On Monday 27 August 2007 11:15 pm, alanw wrote:
But I'd be interested to know how anyone on this list rates TelstraClear's
broadband, either paradise.net or clear.net.
Helpdesk response is slow - IMHO
I've been with Paradise (TCL) for years - nothing humble
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:39 +1200
Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
about such service. My answer lies in using my own domain and addresses
though I'm not convinced I can get better reliability via this route, at
least I would no longer be tied to a particular ISP. It is cost
On Aug 27, 2007 23:29:01, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On 8/27/07, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
On Mon 27 Aug 2007 22:31:13 NZST +1200, Don Gould wrote:
Agreed. I just wouldn't be using Xtra unless you're happy that your
email is open to the whole world.
On Aug 28, 2007 09:30:42, Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:39 +1200
Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
about such service. My answer lies in using my own domain and addresses
though I'm not convinced I can get better reliability via this route, at
least I would
Aidan's got his new PC, and has decided to go with Debian. Being limited
to dial-up, the plan is to do a base install from disk, retrieve the
repository indices from the 'net, generate a download script for the
desired packages, and do the actual download off-site.
Does this sound workable?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:56:06 +1200
Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Postfix - in my experience faster and easier to configure, with a better
security track record.
B*ll*cks. The only reason that sendmail could be less secure is because the
configurer didn't know what they were
On 28/08/2007, Gauland, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which CD do we need for the base install? The Debian site has about 20
images for the current release, as well as a net install disk. The latter
sounds promising, but does it require a network connection during
installation?
Yes, a
On 8/28/07, Gauland, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aidan's got his new PC, and has decided to go with Debian. Being limited
to dial-up, the plan is to do a base install from disk, retrieve the
repository indices from the 'net, generate a download script for the
desired packages, and do the
On Aug 28, 2007 10:38:52, Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:56:06 +1200
Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Postfix - in my experience faster and easier to configure, with a better
security track record.
B*ll*cks. The only reason that sendmail could be less secure is
On Tue, August 28, 2007 11:29 am, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
On Aug 28, 2007 10:38:52, Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:56:06 +1200
Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Postfix - in my experience faster and easier to configure, with a
better
security track record.
At 2007-08-28T10:38:52+1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
B*ll*cks. The only reason that sendmail could be less secure is because
the configurer didn't know what they were doing. Same as all the bad press
that php gets. Blame the workman, not the tools.
That, and the terrible track record for
Hi all,
I'm watching this thread with interest. I used to have Telstra Cable, and
it was great! A few problems of course, but not many in the 4 years I was
a customer. I got Xtra for my mum because Telstra didn't have cables on
her street, plus of course the phone line comes from Telecom, so
Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:39 +1200
Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
about such service. My answer lies in using my own domain and addresses
though I'm not convinced I can get better reliability via this route, at
least I would no longer be tied to a
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:17:59 +1200
Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 2007-08-28T10:38:52+1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
B*ll*cks. The only reason that sendmail could be less secure is because
the configurer didn't know what they were doing. Same as all the bad press
that php gets.
At 2007-08-28T12:39:43+1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
Not for sendmail, that's for sure.
No, definitely for sendmail. I forgot to trim the PHP bit. PHP has had
some problems, but mostly it gets a bad rap due to the popular but terrible
(wrt security) applications built with it.
sendmail has a
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
AFAIK Orcon is effectivly just a retailer for Telecom and I'm quite
certain that if the NSA wanted some particular traffic on 'our'
Telecom network monitored and forwarded to them it would just happen.
Sovereignty be damned.
Are our telecommunications laws so lax
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