Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-05 Thread Vik Olliver
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 08:47, Michael Pearce wrote: The only other thing you may want to re-install is open-office, as it to is the german version. I installed 3.3EN on a friend's PC yesterday and it had the English version of OpenOffice. Vik :v) -- This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-05 Thread Vik Olliver
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:15, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are installed? dpkg -l will tell you what you have - look for lines starting with ii for packages that are really

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Gareth Williams
My point here is, restricted as I was, how was I supposed to have obtained the knowledge, possibly through gui help or cli info/man, on adjusting the screen resolution and on readjusting the mouse drivers. Both are configured in your XF86Config file. Had you not always relied on a gui to set

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Pearce
So in the end I just decided to get a Knoppix iso, and I'll hook it to apt after it is installed. One hint after installing knoppix.. if you are non german speaker / typer then do the following After the first boot switch to a console, login as root rm -R --force /home/knoppix/*

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:38:05AM +1300, Brad Beveridge wrote: from my work windows box) so I'll get an iso. Wait, there's 10 isos here - which one do I need to get? The first one, the first 3? Will it break if I only get the first one? Etc. No, the first would have been more than

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:29 PM To: CLUG Subject: RE: Getting Debian I've just now re-looked at the knoppix page, the install instructions for that appear to be far nicer than the Debian instructions, so I think I'll just use Knoppix as an installer. The debian installer

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
To continue (sort of), I've now managed to install Debian via Knoppix. How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are installed? Cheers Brad

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are installed? dpkg -l will tell you what you have - look for lines starting with ii for packages that are really installed. apt-cache policy package will tell you where a

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:15, Jim Cheetham wrote: apt-cache search string will look for packages called, or mentioning, string. i.e. apt-cache search game will show most games. I use a memorable TLA as a function for this in bash ... wtf () { apt-cache search $* | less } [EMAIL

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Rout
stop being so bloody helpful! :-) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:15:25 +1300 Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are installed? dpkg -l will tell you what you have - look for

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, Nick Rout wrote: stop being so bloody helpful! Sorry, I should be working I guess ... Anyway, I only learned Debian's stuff over the last few months ... so I'm still enthuiastic about sharing knowledge :-) -jim

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
Message- From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:08 PM To: canterbury linux users group Subject: Re: Getting Debian On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, Nick Rout wrote: stop being so bloody helpful! Sorry, I should be working I guess ... Anyway, I only

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
Scratch that - the knoppix source.list file doesn't match the NZ mirror layout. -Original Message- From: Brad Beveridge Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Getting Debian OK, one more (I promise) What do I set my etc/apt/source.list

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:08:26 +1300 Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, Nick Rout wrote: stop being so bloody helpful! Sorry, I should be working I guess ... Anyway, I only learned Debian's stuff over the last few months ... so I'm still enthuiastic about

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Andrew Errington
www.debian.org is your friend. You will find a clear answer to this question. If you are wanting to *use* Debian I suggest stable (Woody). You only need the first CD to get the system up, then apt-get the rest. If you are wanting to *play* with Debian I suggest Knoppix, which is a

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Brad Beveridge
www.debian.org is your friend. You will find a clear answer to this question. Hmm, indeed it is - although until right this second I hadn't been able to find the cleverly hidden link to this page http://www.debian.org/releases/ ;) I've just now re-looked at the knoppix page, the install

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 09:37, Brad Beveridge wrote: 1) Stable - Older packages, very solid - Code name Currently called woody. 2) Testing - Newer packages, still quite stable, not bleeding edge - Code name??? Currently called sarge 3) Unstable - Bleeding edge Yes, but stable

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Nick Rout
Thank you Jim, that is the clearest description of debian releases I have seen in a long time, if not ever! On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 09:53:08 +1300 Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 09:37, Brad Beveridge wrote: 1) Stable - Older packages, very solid - Code

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Brad Beveridge
I agree - thanks Jim. Very helpful. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting Debian Thank you Jim, that is the clearest description of debian releases I have seen

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Paul William
My recommendation is that if you want to play/experiment with debian use woody. If you want a VERY stable/boring desktop use woody and if you are like me and can't wait for the latest and greatest software then use unstable. I have had few problems with unstable, less problems that a couple of

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Paul William
I've just now re-looked at the knoppix page, the install instructions for that appear to be far nicer than the Debian instructions, so I think I'll just use Knoppix as an installer. The debian installer is pretty simple. Cheers Brad If you are wanting to *use* Debian I suggest

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Adrian Robertson
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:35 +1300 Paul William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The debian installer is pretty simple. Not for people that can only point and click :) Lots of people equate no gui as hard :\

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread Paul William
Its a GUI install just not a X11 install. On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 17:53, Adrian Robertson wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:35 +1300 Paul William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The debian installer is pretty simple. Not for people that can only point and click :) Lots of people equate no gui as

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-03 Thread pmw57
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 06:53, Adrian Robertson wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:35 +1300 Paul William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The debian installer is pretty simple. Not for people that can only point and click :) Lots of people equate no gui as hard :\ It's not that it's hard. It's