Re: gentoo distro

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 14:38, Scott McFarlane wrote: Hi there can someone please point me to a bootable gentoo disto cd Assuming you are asking for an image of a cd off the net rather than a physical CD to pop in the drive.

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea. yes, I know of one commercial linux provider who has his entire /etc directory in CVS. = One of those laws: there are two times when you can test the quality of your backup

Re: gentoo distro

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 19:12 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 14:38, Scott McFarlane wrote: Hi there can someone please point me to a bootable gentoo disto cd Assuming you are asking for an image of a cd off the net rather than a physical CD to pop in the drive.

Re: qemu Wesley

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Fisher
Perhaps the Ubuntu users who want to try Qemu would like this link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513 -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Electrical Services

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea. Which one do you recommend? yes, I know of one commercial linux provider who has his entire /etc directory in CVS. trick

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Ross Drummond
trick type=further enumerated Excellent idea Chris. I use this myself to protect important files from accidental deletion. However using the command; touch -i to create a file named -i creates an error. This is easily solved by using the double minus option. This tells the shell to interpret

Re: qemu win98 install/boot problems + cdrom

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:13, Barry wrote: I have again been put off [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc Finally installed win98 after help from Wes - thanks Wes Well I think that Windows (even the 10 year old version) installs fairly easily IMHO. But no cdrom access. What steps do I now take to access a

Re: qemu win98 install/boot problems + cdrom

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, October 13, 2005 8:13 pm, Barry said: I have again been put off [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc Finally installed win98 after help from Wes - thanks Wes But no cdrom access. What steps do I now take to access a cdrom drive? Found this page which some may find useful ...

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: yes, I know of one commercial linux provider who has his entire /etc directory in CVS. Not a bad idea. I tend to use CDR myself but I don't update anything in /etc very often. On the day I accidentally typed: rm -rf /etc/* when I

Re: qemu win98 install/boot problems + cdrom

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, October 13, 2005 10:11 pm, Robert Fisher said: On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:13, Barry wrote: I have again been put off [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc Finally installed win98 after help from Wes - thanks Wes Well I think that Windows (even the 10 year old version) installs fairly easily IMHO. But

Re: qemu win98 install/boot problems + cdrom

2005-10-13 Thread Barry
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, October 13, 2005 8:13 pm, Barry said: . Found this page which some may find useful ... http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu one other option, if network is not running use -dummy-net as the 1st option to qemu Barry qemu -cdrom /dev/hdc (plus

Re: qemu Wesley

2005-10-13 Thread Ralph Stoker
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:46, Robert Fisher wrote: Cashbook - for my business accounting. I tried Quasar but it was not really suited for NZ and I found it overly complicated. Robert, through a suggestion you kindly made some time back I started to run GNUcash for my Korfball accounting duties.

Suse 10, QEMU and Windows 3.11

2005-10-13 Thread Dale Yvonne Ogilvie
Ah nostalgia! An evening of retro fun. I find it rather amusing to have Novell DOS 7, and Win3.11 running on (Novell) Suse 10. QEMU seems to work really well! Here's a shot of me running solitaire. http://homepages./dale/snapshot1.png Hmmm. The possibilities are endless,

lilo to grub swap + midi

2005-10-13 Thread Xandros Desktop OS User
Hi folks, I'm just trialling Xandros (thx Paul S), but to keep using it easily I need to overcome an install default. Lilo wanted my MBR, and stopping it meant creating a boot floppy. I want to shift these contents to /boot and point Grub from another partition-distro-install at this /boot.

RE: Suse 10, QEMU and Windows 3.11

2005-10-13 Thread Dale Yvonne Ogilvie
Hmmm. Don't know what happened to that link. The host for that url is homepages dot maxnet dot co dot nz Should you actually want to see Windows 3.11 in action. Dale Ogilvie

qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
OK well there doesn't seem to be a big problem as far as I can tell. I have windows 2000 running on qemu, on a (gentoo) linux host. I am using user-mode networking, with qemu getting the ip address 10.0.2.15. The host machine is 192.168.1.10 on a lan with windows and linux machines. I posted

Quasar Accounting

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 13 October 2005 23:29, Ralph Stoker wrote: Also, what in your estimation was the NZ in-compatibility with Quasar? I've spent a day or two fiddling around with Quasar and came to the following conclusions:- 1) It is far too comprehensive and complex for the normal Kiwi 'One Man plus

Re: qemu Wesley

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:29, Ralph Stoker wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:46, Robert Fisher wrote: Cashbook - for my business accounting. I tried Quasar but it was not really suited for NZ and I found it overly complicated. Robert, through a suggestion you kindly made some time back I

Re: lilo to grub swap + midi

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, October 13, 2005 11:39 pm, Xandros Desktop OS User said: Hi folks, I'm just trialling Xandros (thx Paul S), but to keep using it easily I need to overcome an install default. Lilo wanted my MBR, and stopping it meant creating a boot floppy. I want to shift these contents to /boot and

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trick type=geriatric unix hacker's putting an empty file named -i in a directory will save your sanity, and the possible amputation of your rh thumb, if you, by mistake, issue the command rm * .o ^ note the erroneous space

Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Fisher
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:01, Nick Rout wrote: OK well there doesn't seem to be a big problem as far as I can tell. I have windows 2000 running on qemu, on a (gentoo) linux host. I'll see you and raise you to WinXP Pro In win2k in qemu, I start explorer (windows exp not internet exp) and can

Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Fisher
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:26, Robert Fisher wrote: No need. I believe you. And I can add that I have a 1280x1024 Qemu WinXP display and the delays and intermittent nature of Win98 semm to not be present with WinXP -- Regards, Robert

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 07:36, Carl Cerecke wrote: On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trick type=geriatric unix hacker's putting an empty file named -i in a directory will save your sanity, and the possible amputation of your rh thumb, if you, by mistake, issue the

Re: 64-bit Linux

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Jamie Dobbs wrote: Having just built myself a new AMD64 3200+ machine I've been playing around with Gentoo for AMD 64 and must say that I am pretty impressed with the overall speed, but a little concerned about the lack of applications that have been ported to 64bit (no Openoffice yet for

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, October 14, 2005 7:36 am, Carl Cerecke wrote: On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trick type=geriatric unix hacker's putting an empty file named -i in a directory will save your sanity, and the possible amputation of your rh thumb, if you, by mistake, issue the

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 09:00, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, October 14, 2005 7:36 am, Carl Cerecke wrote: On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trick type=geriatric unix hacker's putting an empty file named -i in a directory will save your sanity, and the possible

Re: 64-bit Linux

2005-10-13 Thread Lee Begg
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:04, Robert Himmelmann wrote: I have Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and SuSE (not yet SUSE) on my laptop. Debian does work but there have been no updates for almost half a year, so I do not recommend it. Debian-amd64 moved servers about 6 months ago. There is now a good

Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Joshua Collins
Sorry I missed the meeting and for the most part haven't been following the thread. I have a rescue disk with Win ME ('cos no-one wil buy me) on it. Would I be able to install windows using qemu from that? --Slosh

Re: qemu Wesley

2005-10-13 Thread Roy Britten
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 17:32 +1300, Ross Drummond wrote: Progress report Downloaded and compiled qemu. I could not get qemu to compile. I managed to install win2k and get it to boot but it hangs during boot complaing that that a dll is missing. The installation is very CPU memory and

Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 09:34, Joshua Collins wrote: Sorry I missed the meeting and for the most part haven't been following the thread. I have a rescue disk with Win ME ('cos no-one wil buy me) on it. Would I be able to install windows using qemu from that? Possibly, but remember that

Re: 64-bit Linux

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Lee Begg wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:04, Robert Himmelmann wrote: I have Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and SuSE (not yet SUSE) on my laptop. Debian does work but there have been no updates for almost half a year, so I do not recommend it. Debian-amd64 moved servers about 6 months

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Himmelmann
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea. Which one do you recommend? pdumpfs. It uses hardlinks for multiple backups.

[OT] Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread Joshua Collins
On 10/14/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 09:34, Joshua Collins wrote: Sorry I missed the meeting and for the most part haven't been following the thread.I have a rescue disk with Win ME ('cos no-one wil buy me) on it. Would I be able to install windows

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 10:56, Robert Himmelmann wrote: pdumpfs. It uses hardlinks for multiple backups. Hey, that looks really good. Many thanks! -- CS

SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Got a box yesterday. It's got 1 printed manual in it, and 6 disks: installation CD 1-5 for x86, and a dual-layer installation DVD for x86 and AMD64/EMT64. The sources DVD is missing, probably to do with the fact that the cost of the box is now less than half. The disks in the box contain various

RE: SCSI tape changers

2005-10-13 Thread Craig FALCONER
As a follow up - mtx seems to do everything needed for changers. And the exabyte has a barcode reader ?! Seems that you barcode your tapes :) -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 10 October 2005 5:56 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz

Re: 64-bit Linux

2005-10-13 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 23:55 +0200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: I am actually not sure where some of my applications are running and wheter they are 32 or 64bit. cosc4110:~$ file /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea. Which one do you recommend? In most cases, both :-)

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 11:18, Carl Cerecke wrote: On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea.

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Hadley Rich
On Friday 14 October 2005 11:29, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 11:18, Carl Cerecke wrote: On 13/10/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote:

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:32 +1300, Hadley Rich wrote: Subversion to rule them all. I looked at a number of free version-control systems early this year and came to the conclusion that Subversion was the best of the commonly available (free) systems. -- Michael JasonSmith

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:48 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:32 +1300, Hadley Rich wrote: Subversion to rule them all. I looked at a number of free version-control systems early this year and came to the conclusion that Subversion was the best of the commonly

RE: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Dale Yvonne Ogilvie
I've had mine installed at home for a couple of days. I was up and running pretty quickly - no install issues, as expected these days. I was a little disappointed they didn't refresh the look from 10RC1, IMHO Suse 9.3 looks nicer coming up. Basic blue is just that - basic. The box is

Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-13 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 12:16 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: Dunno about that - baz-ng is looking pretty interesting. http://www.bazaar-ng.org/ Obviously very early stages of development though. I was evaluating the systems to determine which should be used by the third-year students, so the

Re: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 13:16, Dale Yvonne Ogilvie wrote: 2. I was trying out a couple of the kde games kolf and another, and the desktop went into molasses mode. 2 seconds of unresponsive desktop, move the mouse a little, two more seconds of unresponsive desktop etc... Sounds to me as if

Re: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:38 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 13:16, Dale Yvonne Ogilvie wrote: 2. I was trying out a couple of the kde games kolf and another, and the desktop went into molasses mode. 2 seconds of unresponsive desktop, move the mouse a little, two

Re: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
was a little disappointed they didn't refresh the look from 10RC1, I liked it - guess you can never cater for all tastes. The box is definitely cut back from 9.3 days. True. So is the price... I guess they do have a point - how many people really use the source packages? The stick works

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros
Peter Glassenbury wrote: I didn't realise until recently that there was the command /usr/bin/sensors but it gives interesting info. Useful, thanks. Do many distros have it? Xandros=not. Rik, testing..

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:39:21 +1300 rik-Xandros wrote: Peter Glassenbury wrote: I didn't realise until recently that there was the command /usr/bin/sensors but it gives interesting info. Useful, thanks. Do many distros have it? Xandros=not. Rik, testing.. Probably in lm-sensors

RE: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Dale Yvonne Ogilvie
I had strange freeze ups in Suse 10 while playing kolf... I'll have a look at the glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering' later. The card is a NVidia FX5200, I've done the standard Suse fetchnvidia stuff to install the nvidia drivers. Out of memory? I've got 2G of RAM so I would certainly hope

Advocacy, new user, weird packaging

2005-10-13 Thread Nick Rout
Helped a neighbour set up his winmodem last night. Of course he has been putting off sorting the modem for so long that he now has Mandrake 9.2 - probably really needs a whole new distro! Still he is keen so thats good. The sm56 rpm package for mandrake 9.x series worked very well. Its a bit

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 16:39, you wrote: Peter Glassenbury wrote: I didn't realise until recently that there was the command /usr/bin/sensors but it gives interesting info. Useful, thanks. Do many distros have it? Xandros=not. Provided you have acpid running try the command: find

Re: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Volker's Sounds like 9.2 USB plug to me... goes over my head... Que? Just a dig... Up to 9.2, a plug event starts up a complete hardware scan, in the process of which 150% of CPU is consumed, the interrupts are turned off half of the time (lost key strokes, frozen system), and it takes rather a

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros-test
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Provided you have acpid running try the command: find /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/ -type f -exec echo {} \; -exec cat {} \; Nice -v : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo find /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/ -type f -exec echo {} \; -exec cat {} \; We trust you have

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Holdoway
Try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone instead. My tosh's detail is under THRM. Steve On Fri, October 14, 2005 5:27 pm, rik-Xandros-test wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: Provided you have acpid running try the command: find /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/ -type f -exec echo {} \; -exec cat {} \;

Re: SUSE 10.0 box

2005-10-13 Thread Dale Yvonne Ogilvie
direct rendering is on it would seem [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering' direct rendering: Yes Dale

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros-test
Aha!.. rik-Xandros-test wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: Provided you have acpid running try the command: find /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/ -type f -exec echo {} \; -exec cat {} \; P4-Xandros3-0:/home/rik# find /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/ -type f -exec echo {} \; -exec cat {} \;

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 17:40, Steve Holdoway wrote: Try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone instead. My tosh's detail is under THRM. I didn't need the sudo stuff either. Those parameters should be readable by ordinary users. On Fri, October 14, 2005 5:27 pm, rik-Xandros-test wrote: Christopher

Re: [OT] Re: qemu and windows browsing

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros-test
Joshua Collins wrote: On 10/14/05, *Christopher Sawtell* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remember that there are very good reasons that nobody will buy your copy of Win-ME That was actually intended as nothing more than a joke :P. It's a phrase my flatmate often

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros-test
Nick Rout wrote: Peter Glassenbury wrote: /usr/bin/sensors gives interesting info. Probably in lm-sensors IIRC. P4-Xandros3-0:/home/rik# find lm-sensors find: lm-sensors: No such file or directory P4-Xandros3-0:/home/rik# which lm-sensors P4-Xandros3-0:/home/rik# locate lm-sensors

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread rik-Xandros-test
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 17:40, Steve Holdoway wrote: Try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone instead. My tosh's detail is under THRM. I didn't need the sudo stuff either. Those parameters should be readable by ordinary users. Ok, however my question was a simple one

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Hadley Rich
On Friday 14 October 2005 18:39, rik-Xandros-test wrote: Ok, however my question was a simple one of 'in which distro(s) is /usr/bin/sensors ?' And I still don't know which one(s). As Nick said, it's in the lm-sensors package. hads -- Let's just say that where a change was required, I

Re: OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 14 October 2005 18:39, rik-Xandros-test wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Friday 14 October 2005 17:40, Steve Holdoway wrote: Try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone instead. My tosh's detail is under THRM. I didn't need the sudo stuff either. Those parameters should be readable by