Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
Caleb, I assume you are still running gentoo ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland /etc/localtime then set the clock with date or ntp -q On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 02:49, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 00:46, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-22T231932+, Caleb Sawtell wrote:

Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-23 Thread Caleb Sawtell
On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: Caleb, I assume you are still running gentoo ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 May 23 11:09 /etc/timezone - /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland seams fine to me... then set the clock with

Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 May 23 11:09 /etc/timezone - /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland seams fine to me... /etc/timezone !=

Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:38, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 May 23 11:09 /etc/timezone -

calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Caleb Sawtell
On Sun, 23 May 2004 07:57, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:38, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 May 23

Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Roger Searle
date shown here is 24/5/2004 8:20 am... Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 07:57, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:38, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: ln -sf

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Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 08:20, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 07:57, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:38, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland

Now: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread steve
Nick Rout wrote: [snip] you shouldn't need to ever reboot unless you get a new kernel, but nevertheless I think it might help this time. [snip] Come on now... let's get real. Linux isn't perfect, nor is plenty of the software that runs on it. If you want to lock up your machine, it's pretty

Re: Now: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sunday 23 May 2004 10:50 pm, steve wrote: Nick Rout wrote: [snip] you shouldn't need to ever reboot unless you get a new kernel, but nevertheless I think it might help this time. [snip] Come on now... let's get real. Linux isn't perfect, nor is plenty of the software that runs on

Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Caleb Sawtell
On Sun, 23 May 2004 09:26, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 08:20, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 07:57, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:38, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-05-23T192918+, Caleb Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 06:20, Nick Rout wrote:

RE: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Steve wrote: Come on now... let's get real. Linux isn't perfect, nor is plenty of the software that runs on it. If you want to lock up your machine, it's pretty simple. Well I was telling someone in the weekend that since I built my current box with Gentoo at home 18 months ago I do not recall

Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
How do I find out what things are taking up memory and processor time? I'm sure that RH9 on a PIII-450 shouldn't be this bad. It takes up to 10 seconds just to open a new mail message and minutes to open or close things like mail reader and web browser. Coming back from screen saver is a

Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Hi All, I'm using version 1.2.2. Looking on rpmfind.net there seems to be a bunch of more recent versions. I did a google (sorry Nick :) and ended up at a novell site that didn't seem to tell me alot (thou there was a lot to read). What's the best thing to do? Obviously I want the most

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
top provides an interactive view in a terminal, and there are many variants for X, which often go under varying names like 'system monitor' in the menuing system RAM is likely to be a big part of your problem - how much ram and swap do you have (run the program free in a terminal to find out).

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 24 May 2004 9:28 am, Don Gould wrote: How do I find out what things are taking up memory and processor time? The commands 'ps' and 'top' display this info. I'm sure that RH9 on a PIII-450 shouldn't be this bad. It takes up to 10 seconds just to open a new mail message and minutes to

RE: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I have version 1.4.6 on Gentoo Mandrake 10 has version 1.4.5 RedHat 9 came out over a year ago (my iso's are dated April 2003) Regarding your problem, is your reply to address correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message-

Re: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
redhat 9 updates only seem to go as far as something like 1.2.2-5, which may indeed be a bugfix. You can download the update from here: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat/linux/updates/9/en/os/i386/ If it complains about dependencies, they should all be on that mirror too. fedora core 2

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 09:53, Christopher Sawtell wrote: are your friends. Thank you friends. I shall venture forth and prune. The more I use this OS the more I like it because the more I know it (to be expected I guess). More in seconds... Cheers Don

Re: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 09:48:03 +1200 Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm using version 1.2.2. Looking on rpmfind.net there seems to be a bunch of more recent versions. I did a google (sorry Nick :) and ended up at a novell site that didn't seem to tell me alot (thou there

RE: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what 's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I know I sound like a stuck record, but I have had many versions of RedHat and Mandrake on an old PII/300Mhz/128Mb laptop here at work and I can confirm that Mandrake 10 (with 2.6 kernel and KDE 3.2) is definitely faster than the older versions. Rob

RE: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Nick and Robert, Yes I'm thinking the MDK10 thing might be the best way to go. Might need to do some serious cleaning up on this machine now so I can install that. Can I install it over RH9? Will it work like Windows does and let me have more than one distro on the same disk system? Where's

RE: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what 's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Ok got your hint :) See other message. No driving this way with some CD's are you? :) Cheers Don On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 10:01, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I know I sound like a stuck record, but I have had many versions of RedHat and Mandrake on an old PII/300Mhz/128Mb laptop here at work

Re: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:09:17 +1200 Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick and Robert, Yes I'm thinking the MDK10 thing might be the best way to go. Might need to do some serious cleaning up on this machine now so I can install that. Can I install it over RH9? Will it work like

RE: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 update?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I have the iso's if you want a set burnt. Letb me know. Yes you can dual boot. Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 10:09 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
The first patition on the disk is Fat32. How do I see (mount?) that within rh9? Cheers Don

RE: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what 's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I work on Moorhouse Ave and live in Parklands so you could pick them up from me. Contact me off list (at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=29285 Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 10:23 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:How do I see the

RE: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread luukml
On the other hand, I'm still getting plenty of lockups since I installed Gentoo. .. It is definitely improving though as I work my way through various kernel/driver/framebuffer issues. I'm getting there slowly. Quoting Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Steve wrote: Come on

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
first make a place to mount it # mkdir /mnt/win then mount it #mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win it should pick up the filesystem type automatically, if not re run the command like: #mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win then you will be able to browse the file system under /mnt/win it will be mounted

Re: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
I read somewhere that on your nforce chipset board you should disable either apic or acpi. now if i could find where i saw it. i'd be really useful! On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:27:57 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'm still getting plenty of lockups since I installed

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
If you want to have permanent access you could add a line such as this to /etc/fstab /dev/hda2 /mnt/storage1 vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0 Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:35:06 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read somewhere that on your nforce chipset board you should disable either apic or acpi. now if i could find where i saw it. i'd be really useful! got it, it was a response from the gentoo-dev list in response to a

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
That worked... There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? Why do I have to mount it? Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Cheers Don On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 10:33, Nick Rout wrote: first make a place to mount it # mkdir

Re: Problems with RH9 800*600 screen

2004-05-23 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, Fedora core 2 is going to be a demand. Two things:: 1st, 256 meg of mem is the realistic minimum of memory for X/KDE etc. Fc2 will run on 160 or so megs, but it will have little rests every now and then. (what I found on FC2 test 3) disk space, the new full install is 6.5 gigs.

Re: Now: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:50:00 +1200 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: [snip] you shouldn't need to ever reboot unless you get a new kernel, but nevertheless I think it might help this time. [snip] Come on now... let's get real. Linux isn't perfect, nor is plenty

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
/dev/hda1 is a device file. it is the kernel's abstraction of the physical collection of the disk blocks that make up a partition. raw tools like dd can overwrite those blocks. if you want to destroy /dev/hda1's data try dd'ing or cat'ing /dev/zero to it. however to read it in the normal way as

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:12:42 +1200, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? The filename /dev/hda1 refers to a device driver that knows how to access your hardware. It doesn't know anything

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
And I am sure that Don will not suggest that Windows is easier for this topic. Try reading your Linux partitions from Windows Don. LOL (Yes I know it can be done but not very easily me thinks.) Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 24 May 2004 11:12 am, Don Gould wrote: That worked... There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? Because that is the raw device file. Why do I have to mount it? So that you can access your data via the file system

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Top says I have ~9 mb of ram free and 167mb of swap. I have 27 services running (most of which I have no idea what they are), is this normal? Are there any got'yas that I should know about and be looking for? How do I get a basic list of the services that are running? ntsysv gave me quite a

Re: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread luukml
Thanks, I did a bit more googling around just now and found this http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=169004highlight=nforce2 which has a patch for the problem which will allow me to use acpi and apic. I will have a go at this tonight. Luuk Quoting Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon,

RE: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what 's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
RedHat does have several GUIs for configuration... This from a google search...about installing RedHat. (I cannot remember the menu item for RedHat services GUI but it is very good.) In Server Configuration Tools select all of the GUI configuration tools you require for the various services you

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
I have 27 services running (most of which I have no idea what they are), is this normal? Are there any got'yas that I should know about and be looking for? How do I get a basic list of the services that are running? chkconfig --list service --status-all Below is my top output, does this

RE: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what 's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Derek Smithies
hi, the name of the tools can be determined by: locate config | grep bin/ It lists a whole bundle (133) on fedora core 2 test 3 with nearly everthing installed. there is system-config-function_name and one redhat function, /usr/bin/redhat-config-authentication Derek.

Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Col
Ok fresh reboot it says the right time on my kde clock (but it has done this whole time) soo if it is not fixed my dad said tha he will help get this prob fixed I had something similar with my gentoo install, until I modified /etc/rc.conf as below. # Set CLOCK to UTC if your system

RE: [OT] What's happening at White Island?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
It was mentioned in The Press on Saturday. Apparently they are not going to go out to remove it, they are judt going to wait until the toxic gases destroy it. Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
This was suggested to Caleb early on in the thread. Did you check it Caleb? Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Col [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 1:07 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Sweeping generalizations Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
Nick Rout wrote: I read somewhere that on your nforce chipset board you should disable either apic or acpi. On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:27:57 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'm still getting plenty of lockups since I installed Gentoo. .. It is definitely improving though as

Re: calebs time problem was (Re: MSI motherboards?)

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:07:06 +1200 Col [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok fresh reboot it says the right time on my kde clock (but it has done this whole time) soo if it is not fixed my dad said tha he will help get this prob fixed I had something similar with my gentoo install,

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Alasdair Tennant
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:32:07 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Yes, it is. Why don't you buy ( or download ) a book and have a read? Alternatively using the online Unix manual page would have told you the answer much faster than than

Re: Performance Tuning... Performance sux! How do I find out what's using what?

2004-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
Don Gould wrote: Top says I have ~9 mb of ram free and 167mb of swap. On Linux, and other modern UNIX-based systems, free ram generally means wasted ram. Stuff is cached in ram for as long as possible. My machine says: Mem:515636k total, 510116k used, 5520k free, 9272k buffers

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:24:23 +1200 Alasdair Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:32:07 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Yes, it is. Why don't you buy ( or download ) a book and have a read? Alternatively

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Barry
Others have answered your specific question. For a lot of help/advice (for the experienced as well as beginners) I suggest you download the Rute manual. Google for it. Mine is in html and bookmarked in my favoutite browser. As you familiarise yourself with it your knowledge of linux will greatly

Re: Mail server alterations

2004-05-23 Thread luukml
If you can sort on the subject line, you should be able to sort on the To: field which contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] on all CLUG messages. Quoting Zane Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andy George wrote: I wonder if it wouldnt be possible to alter the mail server for those of us who are

Re: Mail server alterations

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 14:12:25 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can sort on the subject line, you should be able to sort on the To: field which contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] on all CLUG messages. not necessarily. some have [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is easier to type and remember.

Re: Mail server alterations

2004-05-23 Thread luukml
ok, then sort by contains linux-users Quoting Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 24 May 2004 14:12:25 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can sort on the subject line, you should be able to sort on the To: field which contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] on all CLUG messages.

Re: Problems with RH9 800*600 screen

2004-05-23 Thread David Upex
Are the any problems with dual boot, windows + FC2 I saw that there was a posting on /. about this today. Does anyone know anything about this? On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 11:16, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, Fedora core 2 is going to be a demand. Two things:: 1st, 256 meg of mem is the realistic

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Thanks to those who just gave me a straight answer. RANT - I feel better now... I wouldn't even bother reading the next 400 words :) Have a nice day - Cheers Don In response to the growing flame on the issue... aa. /dev/hda1 Man Mount Pages Concepts... Last week I spent many hours reading

Capture Card Driver

2004-05-23 Thread Kevin Cosgrove
I am new to Linux and am looking for a driver for my capture card. I have tried the Leadtek site but to no avail Can anyone help me to a site where I may be able to get one from. My capture card is a Winfast VC100 made by Leadtek Ciao Kev

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Jim Cheetham
Don Gould wrote: The keyword was 'concept'. I have reviewed the man file (as I write this email) and found there is a total of half a paragaph on the subject (less text that Jim has written in his response). Unix documentation in general is very terse. In the first paragraph of the mount(8)

Writing cd's

2004-05-23 Thread Barry
I am trying to get cdrecord working without any success. I have trolled through the Rute manual, and implemented procedures from the cd-writing howto, then rebooted. The cdrw is on hdb. It works in Windows. lsmod reports loop, sr_mod, sg, scsi_mod all present. I can mnt/read/umnt a cd. The

Re: Writing cd's

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
I assume you are still on a series 2.4 kernel with that distro? are you sure you are running the ide-scsi driver? you need to boot your kernel with the option hdb=ide-scsi if you are , then what user are you when running cdrecord -scanbus? if you get the same result as root, then can you please